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pyro19
6575 Posts
teamfight near rosh pit.we come out ahead by losing only 1 guy and get 3 of them..suddenly drow with lothars..silence main 2 stuneers..4 shot both of them then proceed to kill the third guy and manage to lothar away Haven't won a single game against a competent drow who knows to prioritise targets no matter how bad his team his. Time to play cm only now..I've had enough of seeing drow in 90% of my games | ||
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nojok
France15846 Posts
PS : I see less & less drows on eu maybe I'm lucky or people seem to get tired of her. | ||
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Enzymatic
Canada1301 Posts
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Ricjames
Czech Republic1047 Posts
Other time i am invisible standing next to enemy drow, i ticked him 5 times so people really see it and come gank. However nobody even tries to come. I was sure we could get drow easily and escape before they come gank us. | ||
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itsthewoo
United States260 Posts
On January 22 2013 14:50 pyro19 wrote: Drow is just lawl teamfight near rosh pit.we come out ahead by losing only 1 guy and get 3 of them..suddenly drow with lothars..silence main 2 stuneers..4 shot both of them then proceed to kill the third guy and manage to lothar away Haven't won a single game against a competent drow who knows to prioritise targets no matter how bad his team his. Time to play cm only now..I've had enough of seeing drow in 90% of my games If you know that Drow has lothars and you have no vision of her, then it should be obvious to put up a sentry before doing Rosh. While it is a bit ridiculous how strong Drow gets with minimal farm, she is far from unbeatable. | ||
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Jetaap
France4814 Posts
Somehow we won this game | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On January 22 2013 07:16 ZasZ. wrote: Erm, what gave you the idea I'm trying to be a dick to you? Is it the swearing? Because that was essentially one long reference to Day[9]'s "go fucking kill him." The point of my post was to emphasize what you said about the other team shutting you down, then letting you farm a couple items, then for some reason not focusing down the super squishy, underfarmed carry in a teamfight. Obviously the replay and/or your analysis of it, if you had posted any of it, could have answered some or all of my questions, but this sounds like bad execution by the opposing team, not any inherent balance issue with Drow. The "break the game wide open" comment was directed at your last line. If you didn't notice, I was agreeing with you and talking about the rest of the QQ posts in this thread that act like the game is unplayable with Drow in her current state. She's a strong hero, no doubt, but all it takes is a little coordination to shut her down and she suffers like any other right-click carry. And that's even before she gets tuned, which will inevitably happen in order to get her into CM. Anyway, sorry for getting off-topic, as people do come here to vent their frustrations. Perhaps this is a better discussion for the general thread or the strategy section. Sorry, evidently I took that as way more confrontational than you intended. I apologise. In my defence my record last night at the point I posted that was a loss on BH thanks to a feeding Silencer and a newbie Tiny. A loss on Enigma thanks to a Dark Seer who let Sven freefarm. And a loss on Riki because of the aforementioned Venge and Lich. So I wasn't exactly in the mindset of reading things favourably. >_> On topic: No idea wtf happened to my internet last night. About five minutes into a game I'm suddenly getting latency of around two full seconds. Utterly unplayable, I click a command and then sit and wait for it to respond. Opposing team Sven even quit but somehow the rest of my team couldn't close it out 4v4.5 against their lineup which was basically 5 carries (I was Silencer, so I could at least drop curse and ult thanks to huge AoE and global effect respectively, hence the .5). If they'd just pushed middle early like I kept saying we'd have been fine, but no they'd prefer to let Drow build her Shadow Blade and CK to get his armlet. Then apparently I'm feeding according to our Centaur who never ulted; despite the fact everyone on the team had around the same number of deaths. -_- On January 22 2013 08:27 Enzymatic wrote: About to start dodging games where I get a Medusa on my team. 2 games in a row with my teams Dusa afk farming for 30 mins straight, coming out with a linkens + boots, and doing absolutely shit all. Just an annoyingly passive hero.. Like she's literally useless until she can get up linkens + manta. Far worse than spectre in my opinion. Personally I like Spectre. >_> But then again I tend to get early diffusal on Spectre because in the average pub game I'm in it annoys the hell out of my opponents and with quelling I get decent enough farm anyway. So I'm active a lot earlier than radiance first. Dusa on the other hand I've not seen played well by anyone. Spec can at least harrass with her ult and contribute in teamfights whilst farming. Dusa can't really do much of anything until 40 minutes or so and needs to just safely stay out of the way. On January 22 2013 12:22 Thienan567 wrote: Drow does pack a huge punch even if you shut her down all game and eventually win. ... Drow isn't overpowered, it's just that 99% of pubs are too unorganized to figure out that they have to continually gank her. Literally continually. If you ever let her get some kind of decent farm then you're just going to start taking a lot of deaths. On January 22 2013 20:25 itsthewoo wrote: If you know that Dow has lothars and you have no vision of her, then it should be obvious to put up a sentry before doing Rosh. While it is a bit ridiculous how strong Drow gets with minimal far, she is far from unbeatable. In fairness I had a team fail to sentry before roshing when I was RIKI last night. Of course I jacked the aegis. They weren't very happy. Still lost the game, but it was pretty funny. | ||
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llIH
Norway2147 Posts
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antzilla
United States52 Posts
On January 22 2013 22:50 KAB00000000M wrote: Drow still has extremely high win rate. But I think it is mostly in pubs because people do not know how to handle the orb walk harass. For future reference, what is the best way to deal with orb walk harass? | ||
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Excludos
Norway8277 Posts
On January 22 2013 22:50 KAB00000000M wrote: Drow still has extremely high win rate. But I think it is mostly in pubs because people do not know how to handle the orb walk harass. Nah. Its because people in pubs are generally very bad at farming, but drow is one of the few who can dish out a ton of damage without really having any items. And the effect rises proportionally if the player actually know how to lasthit as well. | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34504 Posts
On January 22 2013 22:57 antzilla wrote: For future reference, what is the best way to deal with orb walk harass? Positioning. | ||
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RaelSan
Belgium223 Posts
On January 22 2013 22:57 antzilla wrote: For future reference, what is the best way to deal with orb walk harass? Pick drow ranger xD | ||
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itsthewoo
United States260 Posts
On January 22 2013 22:57 antzilla wrote: For future reference, what is the best way to deal with orb walk harass? Either juke, or just fight. | ||
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Denzil
United Kingdom4193 Posts
Silly hero either get dust or lose in 15 when she gets lothars Only QQ part is the Clinkz who thought I should be back defending and kept telling Me to fuck off never mind the fact I singlehandedly won the game | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On January 23 2013 01:41 Denzil wrote: while 2 def against their 5 man push into our base What is this, 300? | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Tinker + Kotl = Dota 2 Spartans. | ||
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Denzil
United Kingdom4193 Posts
Kotl and Naga Every second counts with her ult | ||
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ChrisXIV
Austria3553 Posts
Pub carries 2013 | ||
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Ixithra
31 Posts
Now seriously, what the fuck, Valve?! Harsher punitive measures need to be taken against leavers - such shit never happened to me in years of playing Dota 1 on Garena, for example. I understand that some people have poor connections and may disc unintentionally - but I really miss having rooms with harsh rules enforced against leavers or rooms with a minimum level requirement (for people who actually WANT to play well balanced games). | ||
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itsthewoo
United States260 Posts
On January 23 2013 04:32 Ixithra wrote: Currently on a 9-game losing streak - 1 time I just played like crap, nothing to whine about, 1 game we had 2 guys going 0-13 and 1-12. I was going like "Ok, got 2 feeders this time, just bad luck..." BUT THEN in the last 7 of these 9 times (played in the last 3 days) our team was left 4v5 or 3v5 after 10-15 minutes by idiots who ragequit either after their first death or after feeding like hell... One game we could have won, even 3v5, but we just had a bad engagement once and it all went to shit. After a couple of these games, some mannered opponents actually apologized to me for winning like this, saying they felt sorry about it....it's just sad. Now seriously, what the fuck, Valve?! Harsher punitive measures need to be taken against leavers - such shit never happened to me in years of playing Dota 1 on Garena, for example. I understand that some people have poor connections and may disc unintentionally - but I really miss having rooms with harsh rules enforced against leavers or rooms with a minimum level requirement (for people who actually WANT to play well balanced games). I've had a 13-game losing streak. Just find people to stack with if you're getting shafted by solo queue. | ||
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