EPTDota 2 QQ thread - Page 307
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Nisyax
Netherlands756 Posts
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MotherOfRunes
Germany2862 Posts
On January 19 2013 03:35 Laserist wrote: Problem is MM puts you to a position that opponents crush your teammates and manage to win all the lanes except your lane. Even I q with one of my friends, we manage to win a lane but couldn't win because 2>1. I don't know maybe there is a heavenly place in very upper high bracket, you would only play with good players, sing and chant with harmony. well of course u even get matched with idiots in the highest pools. but the higher u are the less often it happens. you could argue for it with streamers like dendi having to play with bad people. but a) compared to him 99% of all players look bad and b)only because a guys fails in 1 game ,no matter what kind of mistakes he does,it doesnt mean he is bad in general or in every game. there can be a ton of other reasons why a person plays poorly in a game (personality, daily form, mental distraction, physical distraction, a shitload of psychological reason, bad team chemistry) but of course u can make yourself feel better and make life easy by just blaming valve | ||
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AkalineMess
249 Posts
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Alur
Denmark3900 Posts
On January 19 2013 01:56 Comeh wrote: Hm, I just feel like the nuke power from powershot + illuminate + Fissure + Chakra would be enough to just make sure the other lane doesn't have any hp at all. Note: I stole this lane from IG. It requires a decent amount of coordination, and the other lane can really punish if someone gets out of position. Barring really idiotic trilanes, you can often win your trilane purely by outplaying your opponents. | ||
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
On January 19 2013 03:42 MotherOfRunes wrote: + Show Spoiler + On January 19 2013 03:35 Laserist wrote: Problem is MM puts you to a position that opponents crush your teammates and manage to win all the lanes except your lane. Even I q with one of my friends, we manage to win a lane but couldn't win because 2>1. I don't know maybe there is a heavenly place in very upper high bracket, you would only play with good players, sing and chant with harmony. well of course u even get matched with idiots in the highest pools. but the higher u are the less often it happens. you could argue for it with streamers like dendi having to play with bad people. but a) compared to him 99% of all players look bad and b)only because a guys fails in 1 game ,no matter what kind of mistakes he does,it doesnt mean he is bad in general or in every game. there can be a ton of other reasons why a person plays poorly in a game (personality, daily form, mental distraction, physical distraction, a shitload of psychological reason, bad team chemistry) but of course u can make yourself feel better and make life easy by just blaming valve I am not entirely blame Valve and I know it is impossible to balance MM with 10 players playing always at the same level. My point is when solo q'in , I rarely enjoy my games and play even-ish games. I win most of the time when I stack with my four friends, consecutively. Just to prove my idea, I'll open my long delayed smurf acoount and play only stack games with it. We should have closer matches and closer skill levels than what we have now, imho. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Play really well, start dominating... -> Team contracts a mix of temporary blindness, dementia and fetal-alchohol syndrom and I lose brutally. Play pretty poorly, achieve basically nothing, maybe feed a bit... -> Team randomly turns into Na'Vi and carries me to victory super ez. And those are the Solo-Q games. At least when I'm with friends I *know* that I'll lose, 14-4 QoP or no. I should clarify: I think that valve has done a fine job of MM. Sure, you don't get good games all the time. People have good days and bad days. Sometimes you queue with 5 people who all feel like playing carry. VALVE CAN'T STOP THAT. It can happen 3,5, 10 games in a row. Thats life. | ||
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Alur
Denmark3900 Posts
On January 19 2013 04:05 Laserist wrote: I am not entirely blame Valve and I know it is impossible to balance MM with 10 players playing always at the same level. My point is when solo q'in , I rarely enjoy my games and play even-ish games. I win most of the time when I stack with my four friends, consecutively. Just to prove my idea, I'll open my long delayed smurf acoount and play only stack games with it. We should have closer matches and closer skill levels than what we have now, imho. You will have little to no insight on the rating of each specific player, the only thing you can prove is what games you perceive to be more adequately balanced, which is anecdotal at best. | ||
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hooahah
3752 Posts
so you just gotta focus less on the loss and more on having fun yourself. Even if you're way outfarmed and about to lose all your racks, you can still get enjoyment out of outplaying someone farmed with a clutch skill use. and hey, it's just a game. We play Dota to have fun! more GG more skill :D | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On January 19 2013 04:18 Alur wrote: You will have little to no insight on the rating of each specific player, the only thing you can prove is what games you perceive to be more adequately balanced, which is anecdotal at best. Plus you will manage to prove that it's easier to determine the correct MMR of 5 individuals with the same mindset, in communication with each other and with little to no variation of the party between games than it is for 5 completelly random individuals. It's not exactly a surprise. The whole "Valve put bad teammates to my team to balance it out, resulting in me playing well but our team losing" argument is just an excuse. The MMR is not out to get anyone, it will try to get balanced games and ocasionally fail. Both to you and to your opponents. | ||
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deichkind
Sweden347 Posts
3 games in a row | ||
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majava
Finland248 Posts
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xAdra
Singapore1858 Posts
Tiny starts off not coming out until 2 minutes later. Then he goes for jungle tiny, and rheads back to the fountain after every creep camp cleared. By the time everyone has their ultimates, he is level 4. He proceeds to never participate in any gank, and feeds 1-5. The enemy team has a drow. Our antimage was powerless in his lane against lich and lina since tiny was never there. My luna solo mid started off well with a 5-1, but as with most drow games, the drow who couldn't farm at all in the early game proceeded to own anyways with the raw OP-ness. Drow+naix proceed to own us in nearly every teamfight with lich lina and sand king supporting. Our tiny tosses teammates into the fray before engagements, and dies every single team fight. Then he finally decides to open his mouth. Chinese characters. Translated, it means: "Don't engage if you don't have the dps". Of course we don't, chinese trash. Who was it who decided to spend his early game sucking badly and being underlevelled? Now I'm headed into another game where there are 4 carries on my team. The sadness. | ||
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BigO
Sweden956 Posts
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yrt123
Singapore1246 Posts
On January 19 2013 14:39 BigO wrote: Some people can really get on your nerves. Was playing a game where I picked void and we got WR, corbe, ursa and lich. Of course lich and ursa is premade and demands safe lane for them. After some arguing I go hard lane anyway with wr. We go up against a kotl, doom and lone in jungle. After like 10 mins of them having free farm vs a slardar they have the nerve to tell me I'm bad because I haven't got any farm. After some more arguing I end up just farming in the jungle. Fortunatly they weren't all bad thanks to ursa getting free farm so they basically won the match for us anyway. Just annoying when you have to play with people like that. I feel you man. I hate these retards. So damn annoying | ||
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Wyk
314 Posts
On January 19 2013 05:48 hooahah wrote: matchmaking will never be perfect, there are too many factors. A good player might decide to play a hero he's bad with and then everyone's fucked - or maybe he just has his day off, or he's playing on his worse lane, with a good partner, etc so you just gotta focus less on the loss and more on having fun yourself. Even if you're way outfarmed and about to lose all your racks, you can still get enjoyment out of outplaying someone farmed with a clutch skill use. and hey, it's just a game. We play Dota to have fun! more GG more skill :D True, true. However, I dont remember HoN matchmaking to have caused me to be this angry. So there are 2 posibilities: 1) I have improved and I have a shitty personality (the first part is false, of course this does not mean I dont have a shitty personality, but I am really bad at dota-like games) 2) The matchmaking in dota2 is subpar with others. Too many trolls in matchmaking. | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
On January 19 2013 13:37 xAdra wrote: Another game of chinese retardation in the SEA servers: Tiny starts off not coming out until 2 minutes later. Then he goes for jungle tiny, and rheads back to the fountain after every creep camp cleared. By the time everyone has their ultimates, he is level 4. He proceeds to never participate in any gank, and feeds 1-5. The enemy team has a drow. Our antimage was powerless in his lane against lich and lina since tiny was never there. My luna solo mid started off well with a 5-1, but as with most drow games, the drow who couldn't farm at all in the early game proceeded to own anyways with the raw OP-ness. Drow+naix proceed to own us in nearly every teamfight with lich lina and sand king supporting. Our tiny tosses teammates into the fray before engagements, and dies every single team fight. Then he finally decides to open his mouth. Chinese characters. Translated, it means: "Don't engage if you don't have the dps". Of course we don't, chinese trash. Who was it who decided to spend his early game sucking badly and being underlevelled? Now I'm headed into another game where there are 4 carries on my team. The sadness. Jungling was probably a wise choice if the alternative was laning with an antimage against dual ranged because luna went mid | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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xAdra
Singapore1858 Posts
On January 19 2013 15:50 Kupon3ss wrote: Jungling was probably a wise choice if the alternative was laning with an antimage against dual ranged because luna went mid True, after chilling out, yes. But jungle tiny? If he had an idea on how to do it maybe I would be fine. But instead he goes for 1 camp, and returns to fountain. Some blame also has to be put on the wisp who was a first time picker and decided to not support AM. Also no offence to the good chinese players around here, too often those who tick to go to SEA are trash who have no idea how to communicate, are incredibly noob and frequently just do retarded things. | ||
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Soap
Brazil1546 Posts
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akatama
Romania982 Posts
On January 19 2013 17:57 Soap wrote: TIL I should give mid to better ranged heroes than TA. Bonus gold if you guess which ranged hero told me that. Luna? | ||
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