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Please remember that while this thread is for QQ and venting about the game, racism is not tolerated here on LD.
fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
January 15 2013 03:34 GMT
#5961
Just had a 5-carry team with a russian jungle ursa. enuf said.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
January 15 2013 03:37 GMT
#5962
On January 15 2013 12:31 MrHoon wrote:
everytime I pick clockwerk two guys repick CK/veno or CK/Any Stunning Support

I hate my life

What the heck is your current name? I miss being told to cut down trees. Pls.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
sandyph
Profile Joined September 2010
Indonesia1640 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-15 04:36:57
January 15 2013 04:36 GMT
#5963
On January 15 2013 04:04 negon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 03:45 Asvhald wrote:
Me and 2 others random. Enemy team insta picks Drow and Centaur.

Jesus... picking some heroes should be reportable for cheating.

I report pretty much any Drow picker immediately, especially the ones who call mid, the hero ruins games and is absolutely no fun to play against, with or as. I don't care if people can justify picking Drow ("She's in the game, why not pick her, blah blah"). The simple fact is, 90% of games with Drow in them will be a ridiculously boring stomp, no matter how bad the Drow player is.


should've seen the Drow on my last game, pick Drow after I (SF) already on mid so I go hardlane solo since cant be arsed to argue with people on the internet. Then go on to feed Pudge 2 kills in under 5 minutes and went on 2-17-9 with his first kill as a KS when he was 0-10 .... 0_o

so I beg to differ, there is some people that even picking Drow cant help

match id 99728426

Put quote here for readability
Random_Guy09
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1010 Posts
January 15 2013 08:49 GMT
#5964
Enchantress in my game that did absolutely fuck all in the jungle.... Didn't use enchant to get neutral creeps.... QQ's when towers are getting sieged by a veno (who I couldn't deal with playing support rubick and not being 6) and proceedes the rest of the game not gettting a single neutral to help antipush or help with a team fight...

IF YOU CANT FUCKING JUNGLE DONT PICK THE HERO GO LEARN IN FUCKING BOT GAMES
eu.exodus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
South Africa1186 Posts
January 15 2013 10:22 GMT
#5965
On January 15 2013 06:58 xAdra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 04:04 negon wrote:
On January 15 2013 03:45 Asvhald wrote:
Me and 2 others random. Enemy team insta picks Drow and Centaur.

Jesus... picking some heroes should be reportable for cheating.

I report pretty much any Drow picker immediately, especially the ones who call mid, the hero ruins games and is absolutely no fun to play against, with or as. I don't care if people can justify picking Drow ("She's in the game, why not pick her, blah blah"). The simple fact is, 90% of games with Drow in them will be a ridiculously boring stomp, no matter how bad the Drow player is.
I also report Drow pickers exclusively and I've gotten loads of the "Thank you, somebody you've reported got banned" messages, so it must work, hehe.
Also don't bother telling me I'm an asshole abusing the report system, that I'm a bad player who needs to learn how to deal with Drow etc etc. I know what I'm doing and I know why I'm doing it as well.

This is an unprecedented level of assholery. Sure, drow pickers are often cowards who just want to abuse the OP hero to win cheap games (I've had more than 5 admit it to me) but reporting for picking is just..ugh.


have you ever thought that maybe people rush pick drow because they dont want to play against her? that's why i pick drow. Doing 200 damage at level 11 with no items is just stupid. Add that to a ridiculous slow and 6 second silence and no matter how many times you kill a drow, get caught out of position and you'll die. I don't play ap anymore because of that hero, which meaans if we don't have 5 I don't play. Drow in her current state doesn't belong in DotA. She isn't impossible to beat but when you're playing pubs 9 times out of 10 your team won't shut her down.
6 poll is a good skill toi have
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
January 15 2013 10:33 GMT
#5966
So I pick meepo and call top (we're dire). Some guy randoms panda, other guy randoms puck. Panda buys a quelling blade and goes top with me, even though I ask him to go mid. Puck tries to cooperate and goes solo bot, but nope, panda stays top. Remaining two guys pick potm and invoker and fight about who's going mid, they both end up going mid. Puck gives up first blood because he doesn't have phase shift (at level 2), and he doesn't put a point in phase shift until level 7 or some retarded shit.

Also they were all russian. Why am I getting matched with this fucking garbage.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
January 15 2013 10:34 GMT
#5967
Are people actually complaining about Drow?

I rarely see her getting played in SEA.

I got no idea why the western scene think Sven and Drow is overpowered.
Play your best
FetTerBender
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany1393 Posts
January 15 2013 11:04 GMT
#5968
On January 15 2013 19:34 FakeDeath wrote:
Are people actually complaining about Drow?

I rarely see her getting played in SEA.

I got no idea why the western scene think Sven and Drow is overpowered.


I personally do not think they are overpowered, its rather like it used to be in WC3 when playing Orc: Easy to learn, hard to master. I always laugh when a Drow tries to kill me off, not even giving a shit about my activated blademail...

There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity.
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
January 15 2013 11:05 GMT
#5969
On January 15 2013 19:34 FakeDeath wrote:
Are people actually complaining about Drow?

I rarely see her getting played in SEA.

I got no idea why the western scene think Sven and Drow is overpowered.

That's weird, cause on SEA I swear every single game has a drow in it, and more than half of the time the team with drow wins. Sven is present in many games on SEA, just not as ridiculously ubiquitous as drow.

If you could ban one hero in -ap mode, I'd do it drow, every single time.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
January 15 2013 11:06 GMT
#5970
On January 15 2013 19:34 FakeDeath wrote:
Are people actually complaining about Drow?

I rarely see her getting played in SEA.

I got no idea why the western scene think Sven and Drow is overpowered.

Dont worry about it, people need something to complain about, if Drow gets nerfed it'll be another hero assuming the spot of disliked hero of the month. Also reporting people for picking Drow is beyond unwarranted.
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
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Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
January 15 2013 11:07 GMT
#5971
On January 15 2013 20:05 xAdra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 19:34 FakeDeath wrote:
Are people actually complaining about Drow?

I rarely see her getting played in SEA.

I got no idea why the western scene think Sven and Drow is overpowered.

That's weird, cause on SEA I swear every single game has a drow in it, and more than half of the time the team with drow wins. Sven is present in many games on SEA, just not as ridiculously ubiquitous as drow.

If you could ban one hero in -ap mode, I'd do it drow, every single time.


I agree. I see drow a lot at High level games. What i usually do is pick Nyx/BH and go drow hunting every single time i see drow. No mercy.
Mew Mew Pew Pew
eu.exodus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
South Africa1186 Posts
January 15 2013 11:07 GMT
#5972
On January 15 2013 19:34 FakeDeath wrote:
Are people actually complaining about Drow?

I rarely see her getting played in SEA.

I got no idea why the western scene think Sven and Drow is overpowered.


How many Russians play on SEA? Trust me, stopping drow is dependant on ganking her before she gets items and giving no room to farm. When playing with people that somehow manage to lose a game after being 25 kills ahead, shutting drow down isn't easy. When we're 4 stacked and play AP its a whole different story.
6 poll is a good skill toi have
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
January 15 2013 11:10 GMT
#5973
On January 15 2013 20:06 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 19:34 FakeDeath wrote:
Are people actually complaining about Drow?

I rarely see her getting played in SEA.

I got no idea why the western scene think Sven and Drow is overpowered.

Dont worry about it, people need something to complain about, if Drow gets nerfed it'll be another hero assuming the spot of disliked hero of the month. Also reporting people for picking Drow is beyond unwarranted.

It's been really often that you see a drow who sucks at last hitting and lane control, not doing anything much and sometimes even feeding, help their team achieve a comeback just because of the free damage and stats she gets. Other hard carries don't have the privilege of farming shittily and yet still reach sky-high damage points. Can morphling do this during the height of his OPness? Nope. Can OD, anti-mage, medusa, lycan be on par with other mid-games carries without doing much farming? Nope.

Also, keep in mind this is mostly pub, where you may tell your team "just go kill her", but of course, being a pub team, only 1/10 will listen to you.

evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8866 Posts
January 15 2013 11:25 GMT
#5974
Played a game where my team were ~30kills ahead but didnt have the lineup to push up ramp easily
our medusa, the only carry in our team, manages to farm a 35min linkens and a 50min manta. Medusa is my fave hero, but players like these makes me want to burn that hero to the ground
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-15 12:15:44
January 15 2013 12:13 GMT
#5975
On January 15 2013 20:10 xAdra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 20:06 Alur wrote:
On January 15 2013 19:34 FakeDeath wrote:
Are people actually complaining about Drow?

I rarely see her getting played in SEA.

I got no idea why the western scene think Sven and Drow is overpowered.

Dont worry about it, people need something to complain about, if Drow gets nerfed it'll be another hero assuming the spot of disliked hero of the month. Also reporting people for picking Drow is beyond unwarranted.

It's been really often that you see a drow who sucks at last hitting and lane control, not doing anything much and sometimes even feeding, help their team achieve a comeback just because of the free damage and stats she gets. Other hard carries don't have the privilege of farming shittily and yet still reach sky-high damage points. Can morphling do this during the height of his OPness? Nope. Can OD, anti-mage, medusa, lycan be on par with other mid-games carries without doing much farming? Nope.

Also, keep in mind this is mostly pub, where you may tell your team "just go kill her", but of course, being a pub team, only 1/10 will listen to you.


The heroes you listed have other strengths rather than pure damage, but that's irrelevant since I'm not arguing the balance of Drow. People are going to complain and whatever hero they deem OP will be the scapegoat of their frustrations. When/if she get's nerfed we'll just see PL or Sven or whatever assume her position.

AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
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Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
January 15 2013 12:26 GMT
#5976
On January 15 2013 20:06 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 19:34 FakeDeath wrote:
Are people actually complaining about Drow?

I rarely see her getting played in SEA.

I got no idea why the western scene think Sven and Drow is overpowered.

Dont worry about it, people need something to complain about, if Drow gets nerfed it'll be another hero assuming the spot of disliked hero of the month. Also reporting people for picking Drow is beyond unwarranted.


stancel♥ has randomed Drow Ranger

"drow picker die in hell"

ffxiv enjoyer
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-15 13:17:19
January 15 2013 13:08 GMT
#5977
On January 15 2013 04:40 Solaris999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 22:53 Lightspeaker wrote:
On January 14 2013 09:32 Geo.Rion wrote:
On January 14 2013 08:48 lazyitachi wrote:
The only way for me to win is to play carry heroes and rice 24 7... weaver and pl last 2 games ..e z wins.. supports last few games.. gettin em idiot carries... le sigh... i hate to play just carries.. why cant i just random for fun and have some ppl with brains................................

that s why we end up so often with horrible lineups with mulitple carries.
I do the same, pick support, courier+ward, stack, heal, carry has a shadowblade at 27 min.. And im like fuck that, only gankers and carries for the rest of the day


I actually find the best way to play and win is to only ever pick utility heroes; ones that can both support and scale decently enough that you can actually do something lategame if the rest of your team is useless. Love Silencer for that. And Venge. Rubick as well. Picked Silencer the other day intending to support and ended up solo mid after buying wards vs a QoP. She fed me something like four kills, me getting all the runes, and I went 12-2-6 and our Undying went 8-0-8. Knocking their throne out in under 25 mins.

Of course sometimes I'll go crazy and pick Crystal Maiden to hardcore support. But that literally never turns out well.



On January 14 2013 19:03 Zapdos_Smithh wrote:
anybody who purposely picks sniper after like 2 carries have already been picked shouldn't be allowed to play this game lol...

i swear this happens in at least...25% of my pubs... and it's not like I have no experience one of my accounts has 1000 games played...

crazy people @_@


What if the second carry pick was Drow? ;P



As for QQ: I'm getting increasingly terrified to play games. I've won 7 out of my last 10 and have just about crept back above 50% after my huge drop from 53-54% to around 46%. I'm expecting a huge loss strike to jump out of nowhere and strike me down. >_>


Just out of interest, what's your venge carry-transition build?


Depends on the state of the game, I don't go into games planning to build as a carry its just that sometimes its necessary, but generally I like to start building up a Manta if I'm having to start doing more than just support on Venge. The buildup is quite nice and it gives good stats. The components aren't too expensive in themselves so you're not spending a lot of time running around with a ton of money doing nothing (unlike building a Butterfly where you need an Eaglesong) and in themselves provide some really nice boosts. Especially Yasha which you can build in stages.

I'll throw in a point booster as well at some point usually. "When" depends on how much pressure I'm facing and damage I'm taking.


More QQ:
I pick Nature's Prophet. Ally picks Lifestealer and wants to jungle. I reluctantly agree and instead take solo top lane vs Weaver/Tidehunter. I do alright, get good levels and decent farm but take a lot of damage. We trade a few ganks back and forth. Same with most of the lanes.

Fast forward a bit. Main carry vs main carry: horribly underfarmed and underlevelled Lifestealer vs an Antimage who has been farming in lane all game, not without being harrassed mind you but he still manages to finish the game on 281 LHs. It was a horrible painful death honestly...
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
January 15 2013 13:15 GMT
#5978
When you want to carry on a non "carry hero" just build thundehammer bkb
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-15 13:17:46
January 15 2013 13:16 GMT
#5979
On January 15 2013 20:05 xAdra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 19:34 FakeDeath wrote:
Are people actually complaining about Drow?

I rarely see her getting played in SEA.

I got no idea why the western scene think Sven and Drow is overpowered.

That's weird, cause on SEA I swear every single game has a drow in it, and more than half of the time the team with drow wins. Sven is present in many games on SEA, just not as ridiculously ubiquitous as drow.

If you could ban one hero in -ap mode, I'd do it drow, every single time.


That was when Drow had the Global Aura boost.
Yes That was when Drow was picked every damn time.
As for more than half of the time with drow wins,yeah that is true.

But i always go with 4 man stack.
So i never had that problem since we know how to shut down those Drows that always go SB.

After the nerf-hammer came,she wasn't that popular anymore.

Just owned Drow solo mid with Weaver recently.XD
Play your best
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-15 15:04:42
January 15 2013 14:37 GMT
#5980
First a useless Slardar on my team who never uses hit ulti, then a retard who picks Meepo and feeds.

Awesome.
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