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BigO
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden956 Posts
May 14 2015 16:10 GMT
#26801
Whoever placed Linkens in the recommended item slot for Weaver should get fired. Had a game where the other team had lots of aoe (2 aoe silences in drow and ebola as well) and he still thought it would be a good idea to get linkens first. Fortunatly I managed to talk him out of it, but then he goes and buys a deso instead. Feels like ALOT of people have no clue when and why you buy certain items. Had that deso been a bkb and we could have won the game, but apparantly that deso is more important so he can deal more damage in the 2 hits he will get of (if lucky) before he dies.
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
May 14 2015 16:28 GMT
#26802
On May 15 2015 01:10 BigO wrote:
Whoever placed Linkens in the recommended item slot for Weaver should get fired. Had a game where the other team had lots of aoe (2 aoe silences in drow and ebola as well) and he still thought it would be a good idea to get linkens first. Fortunatly I managed to talk him out of it, but then he goes and buys a deso instead. Feels like ALOT of people have no clue when and why you buy certain items. Had that deso been a bkb and we could have won the game, but apparantly that deso is more important so he can deal more damage in the 2 hits he will get of (if lucky) before he dies.

I mean, it may have been a terrible game for it but it's possibly his most core item, so...?
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
May 14 2015 16:45 GMT
#26803
Gyro is becoming a fucking huge problem- lots of noobs take solo offlane and dont respect his power, and then give gyro 2 ez kills early game. Then next thing you know you are being nuked (literally) and your entire team gets gunned down in 2 seconds
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-14 17:01:46
May 14 2015 17:01 GMT
#26804
On May 15 2015 01:28 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2015 01:10 BigO wrote:
Whoever placed Linkens in the recommended item slot for Weaver should get fired. Had a game where the other team had lots of aoe (2 aoe silences in drow and ebola as well) and he still thought it would be a good idea to get linkens first. Fortunatly I managed to talk him out of it, but then he goes and buys a deso instead. Feels like ALOT of people have no clue when and why you buy certain items. Had that deso been a bkb and we could have won the game, but apparantly that deso is more important so he can deal more damage in the 2 hits he will get of (if lucky) before he dies.

I mean, it may have been a terrible game for it but it's possibly his most core item, so...?

weaver's most core item is probably deso tbh

linkens/bkb is if you can't get away with naked deso->crit, if you can you just fucken won
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BigO
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden956 Posts
May 14 2015 17:03 GMT
#26805
On May 15 2015 01:28 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2015 01:10 BigO wrote:
Whoever placed Linkens in the recommended item slot for Weaver should get fired. Had a game where the other team had lots of aoe (2 aoe silences in drow and ebola as well) and he still thought it would be a good idea to get linkens first. Fortunatly I managed to talk him out of it, but then he goes and buys a deso instead. Feels like ALOT of people have no clue when and why you buy certain items. Had that deso been a bkb and we could have won the game, but apparantly that deso is more important so he can deal more damage in the 2 hits he will get of (if lucky) before he dies.

I mean, it may have been a terrible game for it but it's possibly his most core item, so...?


Linkens is always a situational item, if there aren't any big spells/heroes to block, you should not get it. The value of the item is in the spellblock, if you won't use it, don't get Linkens. The regen can be solved by just getting a bottle or something, the stats are not worth a 5k item. If you just wanna tank up, I'd argue getting Aghs on Weaver is better now, it provides more utility (unless ofcourse you need the spellblock).
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
May 14 2015 18:13 GMT
#26806
On May 15 2015 02:03 BigO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2015 01:28 FHDH wrote:
On May 15 2015 01:10 BigO wrote:
Whoever placed Linkens in the recommended item slot for Weaver should get fired. Had a game where the other team had lots of aoe (2 aoe silences in drow and ebola as well) and he still thought it would be a good idea to get linkens first. Fortunatly I managed to talk him out of it, but then he goes and buys a deso instead. Feels like ALOT of people have no clue when and why you buy certain items. Had that deso been a bkb and we could have won the game, but apparantly that deso is more important so he can deal more damage in the 2 hits he will get of (if lucky) before he dies.

I mean, it may have been a terrible game for it but it's possibly his most core item, so...?


Linkens is always a situational item, if there aren't any big spells/heroes to block, you should not get it. The value of the item is in the spellblock, if you won't use it, don't get Linkens. The regen can be solved by just getting a bottle or something, the stats are not worth a 5k item. If you just wanna tank up, I'd argue getting Aghs on Weaver is better now, it provides more utility (unless ofcourse you need the spellblock).

I think thought should always go into itemization, including Linkens, even on Weaver, but pros almost always build it for a reason...I don't think anyone at Valve should be fired for putting it in the hero guide.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
May 14 2015 19:57 GMT
#26807
On May 15 2015 03:13 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2015 02:03 BigO wrote:
On May 15 2015 01:28 FHDH wrote:
On May 15 2015 01:10 BigO wrote:
Whoever placed Linkens in the recommended item slot for Weaver should get fired. Had a game where the other team had lots of aoe (2 aoe silences in drow and ebola as well) and he still thought it would be a good idea to get linkens first. Fortunatly I managed to talk him out of it, but then he goes and buys a deso instead. Feels like ALOT of people have no clue when and why you buy certain items. Had that deso been a bkb and we could have won the game, but apparantly that deso is more important so he can deal more damage in the 2 hits he will get of (if lucky) before he dies.

I mean, it may have been a terrible game for it but it's possibly his most core item, so...?


Linkens is always a situational item, if there aren't any big spells/heroes to block, you should not get it. The value of the item is in the spellblock, if you won't use it, don't get Linkens. The regen can be solved by just getting a bottle or something, the stats are not worth a 5k item. If you just wanna tank up, I'd argue getting Aghs on Weaver is better now, it provides more utility (unless ofcourse you need the spellblock).

I think thought should always go into itemization, including Linkens, even on Weaver, but pros almost always build it for a reason...I don't think anyone at Valve should be fired for putting it in the hero guide.


I've seen like 90% of Weavers get it (if they are rich enough).

Maybe that number should be lower, but I think you are underestimating how good that item is on Weaver.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
BigO
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden956 Posts
May 14 2015 21:12 GMT
#26808
On May 15 2015 04:57 DinoMight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2015 03:13 FHDH wrote:
On May 15 2015 02:03 BigO wrote:
On May 15 2015 01:28 FHDH wrote:
On May 15 2015 01:10 BigO wrote:
Whoever placed Linkens in the recommended item slot for Weaver should get fired. Had a game where the other team had lots of aoe (2 aoe silences in drow and ebola as well) and he still thought it would be a good idea to get linkens first. Fortunatly I managed to talk him out of it, but then he goes and buys a deso instead. Feels like ALOT of people have no clue when and why you buy certain items. Had that deso been a bkb and we could have won the game, but apparantly that deso is more important so he can deal more damage in the 2 hits he will get of (if lucky) before he dies.

I mean, it may have been a terrible game for it but it's possibly his most core item, so...?


Linkens is always a situational item, if there aren't any big spells/heroes to block, you should not get it. The value of the item is in the spellblock, if you won't use it, don't get Linkens. The regen can be solved by just getting a bottle or something, the stats are not worth a 5k item. If you just wanna tank up, I'd argue getting Aghs on Weaver is better now, it provides more utility (unless ofcourse you need the spellblock).

I think thought should always go into itemization, including Linkens, even on Weaver, but pros almost always build it for a reason...I don't think anyone at Valve should be fired for putting it in the hero guide.


I've seen like 90% of Weavers get it (if they are rich enough).

Maybe that number should be lower, but I think you are underestimating how good that item is on Weaver.


Just looking at dotabuff, Linkens is the second most bought item on Weaver (after threads). It's a 5k item with a sub 60% winrate, even Deso got higher winrate. It's not the best example, but it should be quite telling on how overbought the item actually is on Weaver, since most 5k+ items on pretty much all heroes got more then 60% winrate.
Mecha King Ghidorah
Profile Joined April 2014
United States595 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-14 21:30:03
May 14 2015 21:29 GMT
#26809
http://www.dotabuff.com/players/68160976

This guy was our 1-12 sf who despite being mid had lower levels tahn my duo lane which was getting shat on.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1473420535
☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭
iaretehnoob
Profile Joined June 2004
Sweden741 Posts
May 14 2015 21:44 GMT
#26810
Offlane OD with 250 GPM in a 40 minute game, literally only treads, wand, null talisman after 40 minutes. #roadto2k
Mecha King Ghidorah
Profile Joined April 2014
United States595 Posts
May 15 2015 02:00 GMT
#26811
"Commend Jugg." http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1473615374

GAGHHHHHHHHH
☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭
Thetwinmasters
Profile Joined January 2015
3578 Posts
May 15 2015 02:38 GMT
#26812
On May 15 2015 02:01 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2015 01:28 FHDH wrote:
On May 15 2015 01:10 BigO wrote:
Whoever placed Linkens in the recommended item slot for Weaver should get fired. Had a game where the other team had lots of aoe (2 aoe silences in drow and ebola as well) and he still thought it would be a good idea to get linkens first. Fortunatly I managed to talk him out of it, but then he goes and buys a deso instead. Feels like ALOT of people have no clue when and why you buy certain items. Had that deso been a bkb and we could have won the game, but apparantly that deso is more important so he can deal more damage in the 2 hits he will get of (if lucky) before he dies.

I mean, it may have been a terrible game for it but it's possibly his most core item, so...?

weaver's most core item is probably deso tbh

linkens/bkb is if you can't get away with naked deso->crit, if you can you just fucken won

I mean the only way you can get away with that is if they have 0 lockdown and you might as well pick storm then or pick both against all slow lineup ;P
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
May 15 2015 03:49 GMT
#26813
God, 3 losses in a row, 3 games in a row people pick sub 45% win rate heroes. They have awful winrates for a reason. Looking at you Terrorblade picker desperately trying to say he's not a bad hero against the ridiculous magic burst line up they have of AA, lina, storm spirit, slark, enigma. How you got even up to 4k is beyond me.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
May 15 2015 04:46 GMT
#26814
I'm tired of these achievement... excuse me, challenge hunters. 1 person needed a 14-min boots, so he never ganks or get runes, and almost missed his challenge by 15 seconds. Two people picked heros they never played before, Dusa and Io, and the Dusa asked "what should i skill first, split shot or mystic snake?"

Had to laugh when the Dusa cast stone gaze in a fight only to get relocate out immediately after. Needless to say we lost the game badly. I wish Valve would make separate queues for these personal challenge hunters who completely disregard the game for their own selfish gains.
bdonballer
Profile Joined October 2014
United States408 Posts
May 15 2015 09:23 GMT
#26815
Lost a 71 minute game because our 6 slotted sf gets 1000 ping and disconnects. Only to reconnect back in at 1000 ping as their team pushes for the win while he has delay. Such a sad way to lose.
I carry hard!
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
May 15 2015 09:52 GMT
#26816
Grinding my wrists into dust trying to win games and there's never any farm anywhere because everyone thinks it's their job to hit creeps and no one can fight and this game is just not soloable.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
May 15 2015 10:46 GMT
#26817
Chen mid, offlane pudge, AFK jungle SK. Game went as well as expected. Kinda karma because I won the previous game thanks to a double cliff skewer which decided the game before the horn. Overall almost one hour of worthless games zzzz
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Alcor
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy137 Posts
May 15 2015 10:58 GMT
#26818
lately when i queque solo ranked i'm picking gyro, because i can choose last minute if support or carry. obviously 90% of the times i'm supporting, but wathever, i like it.

the problem is that in the last 3 gyro support games, i was 1st, 2nd, and 2nd farmer of the team w around 350-400 gpm (on a solo support!!), and the 2 times i was the second, the first was the carry in my lane... how's that possible??? what were the others 3 heroes doing mid and off?!?!?
MMR is just a (low) number...
bdonballer
Profile Joined October 2014
United States408 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-15 21:06:48
May 15 2015 13:08 GMT
#26819
I get a guy from the Middle East on my team. Its US WEST!!!! He randoms sniper. Walks into gyro at rune. First blood. Tps back to lane. Dies to slark. Abandons. GAME IS NOT SAFE TO LEAVE -25 MMR.

REGION LOCK PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!

This guy: http://www.dotabuff.com/players/100398540/scenarios

how does he even get in my us west game????
I carry hard!
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
May 15 2015 14:16 GMT
#26820
Why do people play on English servers to scream insults at us in Spanish all game long?

Like, if I didn't speak English, I would want to play on a server where people could understand me...

Not only that but when I typed to this guy back in Spanish (I know enough to play Dota) he didn't even reply.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
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