EPTDota 2 QQ thread - Page 1169
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SoylentGamer
United States250 Posts
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hooahah
3752 Posts
doom pickers can suck my fucking dick, I haven't been this mad in a while | ||
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Watsonator
United States43 Posts
I randomed Earthshaker and then the rest of my team picked Ursa, NP, Lone Druid, and Doom. Ursa, NP, and LD all started out in the jungle and fought over who should have it. After arguing NP and Ursa eventually went safe and offlane respectively and LD stayed in jungle. LD had the entire jungle to himself now without any harassment. By the time I was level 7 as Earthshaker (position 5 due to team comp) LD was only level 2 and had gone back to heal FOUR FREAKING TIMES. Now LD might not be the absolute EASIEST hero to jungle but IME if you do it right its not that hard and you shouldnt need to go heal EVER. FOUR TRIPS TO FOUNTAIN AND HE IS LEVEL 2 FREE JUNGLE! I'm scared at where I will be calibrated, I can't believe the autism here. | ||
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
On September 17 2014 08:05 Watsonator wrote: I had a game yesterday in my calibration match that made me think I was going to be put into like 300 mmr area.. One of the primary things that bothers me about Dota's current MMR system is the fact that it's easy to fuck yourself in calibration. I started calibration way too early (Dota2 was my first moba) and it dropped me into 1500s when I was done. If I had recalibrated *immediately afterward* I probably would have seeded at least 1k higher. If I calibrated now I'd probably seed significantly higher than my current MMR. It shouldn't be easier to smurf than to climb the ladder. | ||
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Yurie
12088 Posts
On September 17 2014 13:48 FHDH wrote: One of the primary things that bothers me about Dota's current MMR system is the fact that it's easy to fuck yourself in calibration. I started calibration way too early (Dota2 was my first moba) and it dropped me into 1500s when I was done. If I had recalibrated *immediately afterward* I probably would have seeded at least 1k higher. If I calibrated now I'd probably seed significantly higher than my current MMR. It shouldn't be easier to smurf than to climb the ladder. It isn't easier to smurf than climb the ladder. I am 61-9 with a few abandons on a smurf. Allies tell me they are below 4k (3,5k a few games ago). I am not climbing fast, probably hurt a lot that I abandoned in the first few games that has smurf detection enabled. I think if I got an account at 1500 I would need ~45 games to climb 1000 rating. A smurf takes around 160 games to get rated. So I could probably climb to 4k in the same time as making a new account. | ||
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
On September 17 2014 14:23 Yurie wrote: It isn't easier to smurf than climb the ladder. I am 61-9 with a few abandons on a smurf. Allies tell me they are below 4k (3,5k a few games ago). I am not climbing fast, probably hurt a lot that I abandoned in the first few games that has smurf detection enabled. I think if I got an account at 1500 I would need ~45 games to climb 1000 rating. A smurf takes around 160 games to get rated. So I could probably climb to 4k in the same time as making a new account. You would need 40 wins to climb 1k rating. If you can win 40 times in 45 games you should probably be 3k above where you started, not 1k. If you can do that three more times...obviously you are still massively underrated. And this is missing the whole context of why I bring this up: a great deal of this thread is dedicated to people ruining your games. I have a strong winning record in every play mode but no I cannot pull off a 90% winrate over hundreds of games. | ||
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Fleetfeet
Canada2723 Posts
I've got one smurf I play with some friends classily named bigdick420 that boasts an astounding 21.43% win rate, yet has both of its SF games placed in "very high skill" according to dotabuff. I made this smurf because I wanted to mess around with some buddies that are awful at dota, except somewhere in one of my games Dota's matchmaking went "HEY WAIT A MINUTE THIS GUYS AN ASSHOLE" and decided that that account was ~3.5k or whatever "very high" classifies as, even though the account had won a grand total of three games. | ||
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HopLight
Sweden999 Posts
On September 17 2014 14:37 Fleetfeet wrote: Dota 2's smurf detection is god-mode righteously fucked anyways. I've got one smurf I play with some friends classily named bigdick420 that boasts an astounding 21.43% win rate, yet has both of its SF games placed in "very high skill" according to dotabuff. I made this smurf because I wanted to mess around with some buddies that are awful at dota, except somewhere in one of my games Dota's matchmaking went "HEY WAIT A MINUTE THIS GUYS AN ASSHOLE" and decided that that account was ~3.5k or whatever "very high" classifies as, even though the account had won a grand total of three games. This sounds a lot like the detection system is working. | ||
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Fleetfeet
Canada2723 Posts
On September 17 2014 14:52 HopLight wrote: This sounds a lot like the detection system is working. Yes and no. A vast majority of the time I wasn't tryharding in any capacity - see how the three wins aren't just me obliterating everything, but the whole team stomping? And the losses - I'm managing 114 CS on an antimage in 44 minutes. This isn't because I'm trying really hard. So yes, it is working, because I am a ~4k player playing on a new account. But no, it isn't working, because nothing I had done on that account indicated that I was playing at a "very high" level (because I intentionally was not!), and was playing with people who very likely are not even 2k, yet when we queued together it would still match us in "very high" sometimes. You'll note that aside from a game a couple days ago, the last games on that account were 3 months before that. That's because I stopped playing with my friends, because even on a brand new account that I'm not trying on somehow gets its MMR inflated to the point where my friends aren't good enough to do anything but feed, and I'm not willing to, and probably not capable of carrying them. It isn't QQ because I don't get to stomp noobs, it's QQ because I'm not allowed to play with them. | ||
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
On September 17 2014 15:28 Fleetfeet wrote: It isn't QQ because I don't get to stomp noobs, it's QQ because I'm not allowed to play with them. As much as I have resented running into smurfs as I learned the game I do sympathize with this. That said you went 16/3/16 on your "third" game, playing Dazzle. Not all of your games were stomps but more than one in the first ten clearly demonstrated you were not a new player. 17/3/24 on Lion, 8th game? Obvious smurf. | ||
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Fleetfeet
Canada2723 Posts
On September 17 2014 15:35 FHDH wrote: As much as I have resented running into smurfs as I learned the game I do sympathize with this. That said you went 16/3/16 on your "third" game, playing Dazzle. Not all of your games were stomps but more than one in the first ten clearly demonstrated you were not a new player. 17/3/24 on Lion, 8th game? Obvious smurf. My friends, who were literally playing their first not-vs-bots games ever, were OD 12 - 6 - 14 WK 4 - 6 -14 Ogre 6 - 4 - 24 That's the dazzle game. Both opponents that have visible profiles on dotabuff show games only in normal skill. Even if this says "The dazzle is smurfing!" it also says "So are his buddies!" and I don't think it uses a stomp in that bracket to jump MMR up two whole brackets. Lion game: I'm 17 - 3 - 24 Matt is 22 - 3 - 13 as his first time pudge. Greg is 8 - 7 - 14 as spirit breaker. Adam is 12 - 7 - 15 as night stalker. Allied Lich is 7 - 7 - 21, and only shows games in "normal" bracket through dotabuff. Again, yes I do get a solid KDA, but so do my allies, and these are literally within their first dozen games against human players. They literally ARE new players. If the matchmaking system is singling me out in these games as SUBSTANTIALLY better than my friends, I fail to see the metric it's using to determine such a thing. Everything after the Lion game is a loss. The lion game, though a win and a stomp, was at most in the high end of normal bracket, yet two games later is in "high" bracket, and the following game in "very high". It became increasingly impossible to play with my friends, not because we were consistently stomping and winning (In fact, the first six matches show a healthy L W L W L W) but because something in the "smurf detection" decided that I wasn't where I should be even though it shouldn't have been my play that was showing that. | ||
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VieuxSinge
France231 Posts
Our opponents picks: void, sky, tide, sniper, shadow demon GG | ||
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hooahah
3752 Posts
On September 17 2014 18:46 VieuxSinge wrote: Played an AP game where no-one picks until the 2 last second. Our opponents picks: void, sky, tide, sniper, shadow demon GG all pick really does fell sometimes like "who will pick the cheaper shit" | ||
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nojok
France15846 Posts
On September 17 2014 20:58 hooahah wrote: all pick really does fell sometimes like "who will pick the cheaper shit" Yeah, when players are relatively close skill wise, it feels a lot like picks are superior to execution. AP is not so great atm. | ||
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noire
Turkey213 Posts
Everytime I play with Russians I feel like minus 10 years of my life. if russian is on your team = he ignores you for 80 minute rpg farm game or pick a carry and feed and flame in russian. if russian is on opp team = scene, if win = hohoho im dendi xaxa aaxa, if losing = defend for 70 minutes refuse to leave game one of the few examples of lovely teammates. last week i was trying to stay up overnight to "fix my sleep", played for about 9 games, last 7 games was all MM solo Q on Europe, all russian teammates.. after that, I didn't play dota2 for a week till last night. ggnore /rant same think | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Three games, three different heroes, three teams where someone is screwing up royally and I can't outcarry the fed opponents. This is just depressing...I don't even know what to do anymore. All three I picked SHOULD have been sure fire win heroes for me with above 70% winrates. | ||
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Velzi
Finland659 Posts
Our troll doesnt communicate at all and cant even read what we are saying to him. Well we decide to follow him where ever he goes and that way ensure he is in the fights. Actually won that game when we realized we have to follow him where ever he goes lol. | ||
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126Q;A1
Sweden517 Posts
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
On September 18 2014 08:21 126Q;A1 wrote: You really do have to be masochistic to enjoy this game, don't you. I'm solo support, game after game. I'm the only one who doesn't feed like a retard, game after game. I'm the only one with farm, game after game. Why can't you be matched with people based on games played instead of this hopeless MMR system. because it wouldnt change a thing. i played with people who had more than 500 games with invoker and still didnt know what items they should buy in certain situations | ||
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
To quote, "It's ok, I don't need farm, I just push." | ||
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