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Exoteric
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2330 Posts
July 19 2014 05:37 GMT
#22301
the mmr loss is real. i don't think i'm playing badly too, just not good enough to turn things around when 2 or more people in my team feed gratuitously. just gotta keep queuing
hell is other people
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
July 19 2014 06:32 GMT
#22302
QoP doesn't teamfight with us and thinks that he can split push faster.

My 18 minute Mek on a 5 position Dazzle was fucking wasted. that bitch
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
DougJDempsey
Profile Joined April 2010
747 Posts
July 19 2014 09:39 GMT
#22303
On July 18 2014 17:37 PoulsenB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 17:30 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
On July 18 2014 09:57 Nymzee wrote:
can i just say while i love TI it's destroyed match making

each game is:

> void
> sky
> razor
> viper
> brew

hihihihi fun

not

TINKER TINKER TINKER TINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKERTINKER


I would say tinker and Void are the main problem, at least on my trench-tier level, the rest is rather rare even after the TI playoffs.

but yeah tinker and void have been the new pubcancer recently.


most of the time void is there because hes trying to PREVENT tinker from ruining dota.
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2746 Posts
July 19 2014 10:49 GMT
#22304
Imagine solo Qing into a match against a 5 stack who pick Void, Tinker, Doom, SWM, Tidehunter
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-19 11:34:42
July 19 2014 11:27 GMT
#22305
So based off what I always read, "go play CM if you want serious games", I decided to try it out over the last couple of days.

NEVER AGAIN.

Every single CM game I have played is low-level (ie. very few games played (I have 800~)) SEA players complaining about lag every minute, begging for their heroes to be picked, going afk randomly, being fucking USELESS.

Just had a 50 minute game where our void didn't get over 100cs. Didn't even reach 90.
I mean, I knew it was going to be bad when our supp. mirana was flaming 2 minutes in, "gg end" every couple of minutes, and then when our Void said "im going for timing" "noob" and he built two wraith bands pre-boots. In fact he had two wraith bands and a morbid mask pre-boots.

And of course it's a 2/1/1/1 vs a 5 Stack, so that's always fun.


(To be fair it was a normal match, not ranked, but infuriating when you're on a losing streak).
SolarFlare93
Profile Joined August 2013
Australia301 Posts
July 19 2014 12:39 GMT
#22306
My friends pick all carry ;_; why do this to me?
rudimentalfeelthelov
Profile Joined December 2013
Finland268 Posts
July 19 2014 13:35 GMT
#22307
Just lost with 11/1/28, 39 k+a:d lose its my new record.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
July 19 2014 13:38 GMT
#22308
Sand King and Dark Seer start fighting in chat over a creep spawn in the jungle, names were called and shit. I didn't think much of it until 3 minutes later I look at the jungle and I see both of them using follow command on each other, effectivly sitting doing nothing.

A minute later (minute 11) I get jumped on by the enemy jungle Doom who has minute 11 Midas, Boots, Blink.

my safelane farm AM that was up against a mirana with SK assisting him got a minute 20 Battlefury.

what did I do to deserve this
Imperator x8x
Profile Joined July 2013
United States69 Posts
July 19 2014 15:10 GMT
#22309
So, I'm captain. End up drafting a trilane with Sven, Warlock, and Shadow Shaman (I'm Sven). Warlock starts attacking creeps. Not a hit here or there to even out the wave, full on pushing with no stop. With fatal bonds maxed and using it whenever possible.

Naturally, I yell at him to stop attacking creeps. Support 101 people. NEVER PUSH THE LANE.

Then comes the part that brings me here. He claims that a trilane should be pushing.

What. Da. ****.

I can't convince him to stop, I warn him that I need farm or things will be bad, doesn't stop. Doesn't put any points into shadow word, and when enemy lion tps in and kills me, with him standing RIGHT THERE unable to do anything to help cause no shadow word, and blames me when I die.

Naturally, neither him or ss knows how to pull. And even if they did they probably wouldn't.

The Axe we laned against has equal levels as our mid, and starts roaming to gank everybody. With warlock and ss ults we take out their tier 1s, and I, having no farm, buy a lifesteal mask and run off to the jungle hoping to play catch-up.

Meanwhile, my team gets into teamfights. Which they lose. Horribly. Our BB (the only sane player) asks for my stun in teamfights, I point out I'm lower level than the supports and will die almost instantly. We start losing towers, lose control of our jungle. I finally get some items online, but they are too far ahead and wipe us, and take rax.

But the best part is yet to come.

After the game, Warlock starts laughing and points our my mmr (850), which is half his. The typical post-game stupidity follows.

I absolutely HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE people like this. His idiocy and lack of knowledge clearly caused us a loss, but he will refuse to take what I say seriously because I have a lower mmr.

Why are people like this allowed to play...
If they rain on your parade, parade in the rain.
rudimentalfeelthelov
Profile Joined December 2013
Finland268 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-19 16:58:26
July 19 2014 16:55 GMT
#22310
On July 20 2014 00:10 Imperator x8x wrote:
So, I'm captain. End up drafting a trilane with Sven, Warlock, and Shadow Shaman (I'm Sven). Warlock starts attacking creeps. Not a hit here or there to even out the wave, full on pushing with no stop. With fatal bonds maxed and using it whenever possible.

Naturally, I yell at him to stop attacking creeps. Support 101 people. NEVER PUSH THE LANE.

Then comes the part that brings me here. He claims that a trilane should be pushing.

What. Da. ****.

I can't convince him to stop, I warn him that I need farm or things will be bad, doesn't stop. Doesn't put any points into shadow word, and when enemy lion tps in and kills me, with him standing RIGHT THERE unable to do anything to help cause no shadow word, and blames me when I die.

Naturally, neither him or ss knows how to pull. And even if they did they probably wouldn't.

The Axe we laned against has equal levels as our mid, and starts roaming to gank everybody. With warlock and ss ults we take out their tier 1s, and I, having no farm, buy a lifesteal mask and run off to the jungle hoping to play catch-up.

Meanwhile, my team gets into teamfights. Which they lose. Horribly. Our BB (the only sane player) asks for my stun in teamfights, I point out I'm lower level than the supports and will die almost instantly. We start losing towers, lose control of our jungle. I finally get some items online, but they are too far ahead and wipe us, and take rax.

But the best part is yet to come.

After the game, Warlock starts laughing and points our my mmr (850), which is half his. The typical post-game stupidity follows.

I absolutely HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE people like this. His idiocy and lack of knowledge clearly caused us a loss, but he will refuse to take what I say seriously because I have a lower mmr.

Why are people like this allowed to play...


Wait a second. You have 850 mmr? I thought it's impossible to have mmr below 2k.

Anyway drafting Warlock and Shadow Shaman as trilane supports is a really bad idea, because both of this heroes are heavily level dependent and they won't get their levels in trilane, they have no catch up mechanism like Sand Kings sand storm and Warlock is a hero that generally doesn't have a huge early game kill potential and is bad at roaming. Also you really want to get some items on both Warlock and Shadow Shaman if possible, so none of them is a good 5 position hero. When you draft supports for trilane, you should pick something else like mirana+shadow demon - great roaming duo, they have huge early game kill potential, shadow demon is a perfect position 5, doesn't need items. Another heroes to consider for trilane supports are AA, Vengeful Spirit, SK, Rubick, Witch Doctor, CM, but mostly Warlock you shouldn't pick for a trilane support. I would honestly rather play support sven and farming warlock in your lane :D (sven and shadow shaman are a good roaming couple, while warlock and shadow shaman aren't)
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-19 17:22:45
July 19 2014 17:22 GMT
#22311
On July 20 2014 00:10 Imperator x8x wrote:
So, I'm captain. End up drafting a trilane with Sven, Warlock, and Shadow Shaman (I'm Sven). Warlock starts attacking creeps. Not a hit here or there to even out the wave, full on pushing with no stop. With fatal bonds maxed and using it whenever possible.

Naturally, I yell at him to stop attacking creeps. Support 101 people. NEVER PUSH THE LANE.

Then comes the part that brings me here. He claims that a trilane should be pushing.

What. Da. ****.

I can't convince him to stop, I warn him that I need farm or things will be bad, doesn't stop. Doesn't put any points into shadow word, and when enemy lion tps in and kills me, with him standing RIGHT THERE unable to do anything to help cause no shadow word, and blames me when I die.

Naturally, neither him or ss knows how to pull. And even if they did they probably wouldn't.

The Axe we laned against has equal levels as our mid, and starts roaming to gank everybody. With warlock and ss ults we take out their tier 1s, and I, having no farm, buy a lifesteal mask and run off to the jungle hoping to play catch-up.

Meanwhile, my team gets into teamfights. Which they lose. Horribly. Our BB (the only sane player) asks for my stun in teamfights, I point out I'm lower level than the supports and will die almost instantly. We start losing towers, lose control of our jungle. I finally get some items online, but they are too far ahead and wipe us, and take rax.

But the best part is yet to come.

After the game, Warlock starts laughing and points our my mmr (850), which is half his. The typical post-game stupidity follows.

I absolutely HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE people like this. His idiocy and lack of knowledge clearly caused us a loss, but he will refuse to take what I say seriously because I have a lower mmr.

Why are people like this allowed to play...

you're at an mmr where expecting teammates to run a trilane competently is just a bad idea. i wouldn't do any mode but -ap for a while.
)))____◎◎◎◎█████
Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
July 19 2014 17:52 GMT
#22312
2k MMR is within the system's margin of error of the median, so sub-2k is fairly common. I think 800-900 MMR players are more common than 4.0k-4.1k MMR players, we just don't get many of them on TL.

LA_Morello
Profile Joined July 2011
Brazil143 Posts
July 19 2014 23:57 GMT
#22313
On July 20 2014 02:52 Buckyman wrote:
2k MMR is within the system's margin of error of the median, so sub-2k is fairly common. I think 800-900 MMR players are more common than 4.0k-4.1k MMR players, we just don't get many of them on TL.



Yep. I have a cousin who plays Dota and was 1k MMR months ago. He used to laugh at the 700 mmr 'scrubs' he sometimes was matched against.
SolarFlare93
Profile Joined August 2013
Australia301 Posts
July 20 2014 08:33 GMT
#22314
Ugh why do I always get people who do not farm with all the space created the team made for them :/
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
July 20 2014 10:32 GMT
#22315
Forgot how it feels like to win- lost 12 out of my last 13 games. Dotabuff starting to list my games under "high bracket" too, which is fucked up cause its a drop from VH for me. I can take the losses, except that they are all because of fucking stupid reasons, like people taking away my solo offlane and feeding the lane, or retarded supports that dont ward and single pull.

/end generic complaints
Trustworthy-Tony
Profile Joined March 2014
Tanzania187 Posts
July 20 2014 11:06 GMT
#22316
First game of the day. Radiant, my team picks Lone Druid, Necro, and Clockwerk. Jungle Lone Druid obviously! That goes without saying. Looks like my allies are clueless worthless nobodies as always, so I pick Tinker looking to go mid and carry these scrubs. Then the last guy lastpicks Faceless Void...

The scariest notion I ever came across is the fact that 50 percent is more stupid than the average guy. That thought is fucking scary. There is no hope for humanity.
Trustworthy-Tony
Profile Joined March 2014
Tanzania187 Posts
July 20 2014 12:40 GMT
#22317
WOW how bad and stupid people can be never ceases to amaze me
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2746 Posts
July 20 2014 12:53 GMT
#22318
Bad news: Tiny+Lycan are moving into our base from midlane with super creeps, 3 of our heroes (including me) died without buyback earlier

Good news: We have melee super creeps pushing into their base from both Top and Bottom lanes that we raxed earlier, their ancient is naked and down to 40% HP, our Tinker is alive and well, we have glyph and healthy T4's

Tinker's decision: Teleport back to our ancient and spam March at Tiny+Lycan instead of joining the 2 creep waves and right click their ancient. Tiny+Lycan ignores the damage and right click our ancient anyway.

I was just dumbfounded. I had never wanted to punch someone through the internet so hard until that moment.
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
July 20 2014 15:40 GMT
#22319
On July 20 2014 21:53 Terrorbladder wrote:
Bad news: Tiny+Lycan are moving into our base from midlane with super creeps, 3 of our heroes (including me) died without buyback earlier

Good news: We have melee super creeps pushing into their base from both Top and Bottom lanes that we raxed earlier, their ancient is naked and down to 40% HP, our Tinker is alive and well, we have glyph and healthy T4's

Tinker's decision: Teleport back to our ancient and spam March at Tiny+Lycan instead of joining the 2 creep waves and right click their ancient. Tiny+Lycan ignores the damage and right click our ancient anyway.

I was just dumbfounded. I had never wanted to punch someone through the internet so hard until that moment.


I'm not sure he would've rightclicked faster but didn't he have hex/eblade/anything?
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2746 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-20 16:25:06
July 20 2014 16:23 GMT
#22320
On July 21 2014 00:40 hooahah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2014 21:53 Terrorbladder wrote:
Bad news: Tiny+Lycan are moving into our base from midlane with super creeps, 3 of our heroes (including me) died without buyback earlier

Good news: We have melee super creeps pushing into their base from both Top and Bottom lanes that we raxed earlier, their ancient is naked and down to 40% HP, our Tinker is alive and well, we have glyph and healthy T4's

Tinker's decision: Teleport back to our ancient and spam March at Tiny+Lycan instead of joining the 2 creep waves and right click their ancient. Tiny+Lycan ignores the damage and right click our ancient anyway.

I was just dumbfounded. I had never wanted to punch someone through the internet so hard until that moment.


I'm not sure he would've rightclicked faster but didn't he have hex/eblade/anything?
He did have all of that sort, attempted to use his combo but Tiny+Lycan necrobook took him to 30% HP and he had to back off (himself does not have buyback either).
It was extremely dumb because he was right at their base a few seconds earlier before he decided to TP back to ours, 2 huge waves of super creeps pushing in (they were already inside Radiant base past the dead raxes when Tinker TP'd back) and almost no buffer buildings left. Even if his right click isn't hard enough he can still instagib any loner who tries to TP back to their ancient and let the creeps do their thing. How he could have chosen to play "not to lose" instead of playing to win against fucking Tiny+Lycan is completely beyond me.
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