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On May 05 2014 05:56 SKC wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:49 DavoS wrote:
How the fuck do South Americans still end up all over the US East server when you fucking have to select your server before you que up for a match? People ussually choose the server with the lowest ping
1-A lot of players have better ping to USE than Brazil (Routing, mostly peru-colombia-venezuela)
2-Brazil server was shit for long time, so a lot of people got used to play in USE and have a lot of friends that they play with regularly.
Just saying.
Edit: wanted to quoute Davos.
MY qq: I cant fucking watch chinese tournaments, these times are killing me, i hate it, i cant get up in time ffs.
QQ #2: I hate Bloodcyka
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Our Lion whines because he doesn't get Lycan jungle and insults everyone, Drow feeds bad in mid and continues the whole game dying in the stupidest places while complaining about the team and has no farm at all and Mirana flames the whole team all game. Sometimes I am glad my team lost. Holy fuck were these guys annoying.
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Just had a game that would've been an easy win except my muted captain (of course he instantly grabs captain in CD) decides to ward every camp in our own jungle and refuses to come to any fight as a WL. Real shitty experience.
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when your team's antimage got his vanguard at 18 minutes and then proceed to get a chain mail, no battlefury
holy fuck i want to punch that guy
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On May 05 2014 09:04 Nevuk wrote:
Just had a game that would've been an easy win except my muted captain (of course he instantly grabs captain in CD) decides to ward every camp in our own jungle and refuses to come to any fight as a WL. Real shitty experience.
is wl warlock
it took me fucking forever to figure that out
goddamn you
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Had a game against a Tiny/Centaur/Shadow Shaman/ Kunka/ Pudge
Had a Sniper that was just food for them, when we started grouping and getting good teamfights off, 34mins Sniper buys Mask of madness with his farm. At that point all he had were phase boots and shadowblade. Less than 900hp.
"protect me"
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On May 05 2014 11:05 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 09:04 Nevuk wrote:
Just had a game that would've been an easy win except my muted captain (of course he instantly grabs captain in CD) decides to ward every camp in our own jungle and refuses to come to any fight as a WL. Real shitty experience. is wl warlock it took me fucking forever to figure that out goddamn you
yeah wl is warlock haha. Too used to having to use in-game lingo
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Carry Abaddon ist bad.
Picking him 5th after your team already has a carry is worse.
Going offlane and stealing farm/levels from Batrider is a whole new level of bad.
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Is there a reason why im seeing Abaddon carries like every 5th game?
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Aghs effect. Scepter-able support = not a support anymore.
Carrybaddon in particular has always been a thing. He buys SnY more often than mekansm if you check dotabuff, which is pretty damning. It probably just seems more popular now that abba himself is on the up.
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radiabaddon fpr the win
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What kind of noob AM chooses not to build battlefury vs PL, Spectre and manta first Luna...
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Death Prophet mid is level 8 compared to the level 10 Brewmaster she's up against. Brewmaster has roamed a few times to gank Ursa (got 3 kills) and try to get a gank on Earthshaker and myself bot. DP hasn't done anything to the tower. We are winning bot lane, top (solo) lane is going badly too.
Soon they're pushing 4x bot and kill me, earthshaker gets away. Death prophet walks into 4 of them and dies, starts calling 'why is bot so fed, gg'.
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On May 05 2014 17:50 Belisarius wrote:
Aghs effect. Scepter-able support = not a support anymore.
Carrybaddon in particular has always been a thing. He buys SnY more often than mekansm if you check dotabuff, which is pretty damning. It probably just seems more popular now that abba himself is on the up.
Someone checked the stats, and concluded that the more farm Abaddon got early game (as in, farming priority), the worse his winrate was. http://dotametrics.wordpress.com/2013/07/16/abaddon-is-not-a-carry/
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On May 05 2014 05:55 DrPandaPhD wrote:
So I was playing this game as batrider. We were really far ahead, I had just picked off the enemy puck close the roshpit when we were roshing. So we got a free rosh and were going to push tier 3 mid. TA picked up the aegis cause our carry alch wouldn't die anyway cause how far ahead we were.
We pushed tier 3 really fast and then we had to tp back to defend because their furion and wisp CK were splitpushing the other lanes. However, only me and the rubick got back into base. One got interrupted by puck's ult but our alchemist and TA didn't TP. TA didn't even carry a TP vs a ratdota team. So obviously, me and the rubick couldn't really do much vs Furion CK and Wisp so we lost 2 lanes instead of just the one we pushed. How the fuck did I end up in games with teammates like this carry/mid? Volvo pls
thanks for this, it was excellent 
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On May 03 2014 05:28 Staboteur wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2014 03:54 TheYango wrote:On May 03 2014 02:24 EvilTeletubby wrote:On May 02 2014 15:28 wuhan_clan wrote:On May 02 2014 10:15 Staboteur wrote:
I think my queue buddy gave up on dota. We played a CD, someone else got captain, he got stuck on SK and apparently forgot how to stack. After the 3rd stack fail I told him to just go sit in lane till 3 and I'd stack camps. He hits 3 and instead of going to clear the 4 stack with r2 sandstorm he instead just runs in circles in the lane pouting and talking about how he doesn't want to play anymore.
To top it all off the people we're queued with are a tri-stack and are spewing all kinds of hate over mic, blaming the entire game on such extravagant things as my 0/4/4/1 Shadow Shaman build, because apparently the best idea is to invest into a mana-heavy nuke when your items at 25 minutes are brown boots and a magic wand. Also heavy lockdown vs their morphling and TA is -terrible-, so 0/4/4 certifies me as medically retarded. Cough.
Other support not supporting + tri-stack that seems convinced that a singular support should be able to lane pull + stack camps for axe/sk + zone their magnus + gank other lanes + ward / deward all the while ending up with blink/mana boots / aghas by the 30 minute mark. Yeah, guys. You're right. My bad for not being pro. I don't want to rain on your QQ parade too much but w/e; that 0/4/4/1 shadow shaman build is absolutely ass. It's so bad that I'm gonna QQ about it cuz I've seen how useless it is in few of my own games. The whole "mana heavy nuker" thing is simply wrong. Shadow shadan has enough mana to use all of his spells once in a fight. If you don't have mana, thats your own fault for not managing resources properly. Burst dmg is king in Dota, especially in the early game. In fact, forked lightning is the highest dmg targetable spell at lvl1 and scales all the way to 320 dmg at lvl4 (when most aoe nukes are 300). In like 99% of situations, you're never going to get a full 5 second shackle off. You would have done more dmg with the nuke than having a couple more right clicks during the extra duration. I get you want lockdown vs a morph but burst dmg is actually more important since u already have a hex disable. Also the lvl1 shackle duration is more than enough time for allies to remove refraction charges from a TA. Like most squishy supports, you want to be able to do as much dmg as possible before you inevitably die. I understand your other complaints but you gotta stop doing that build. Unless your team already has an ABSURD amount of dmg, I don't see this build ever being efficient. I agree completely... 0-4-4-1 shaman is probably the absolute worst way to build him. It was a bit ironic for him to complain about not having enough mana because he had boots+wand at 25 minutes when it's basically impossible to not have Arcanes by ~15 even in a losing game if you max Ether Shock because of the farming options it gives you as a support (e.g. stack hard camp and clear with 2-3 Ether Shocks). Stacked camps were assigned to SK and axe. I had no farming space. This wasn't an option without just delaying their shit. That said, I can see why the 0-4-4-1 bad, but I was getting full duration shackles off on their TA and magnus because of how far they were diving. When I know there's not going to be no time or space for me to farm with ethershock ever, longer duration disables hardly seems like a game-losing mistake. That said, will never do that build again. Thank you QQ thread for informing me in one of the reasons I'm bad :D
Preface: I main support at 4.5k and have 75% winrate with rhasta. All of which were ranked games.
Hey Stab just wanna chime in about this, you should be aiming for 4/1/1/1 or even 4/0/2/1 at level 7 with Shaman. At level 5 with 3 points in Ether shock you can take over lanes from your ganking midlaner or whatever go get much needed farm to push yourself to level 6 and your first core item/items (Urn or even medallion for me if I am dire) #
Shaman level 6 has amazing burst and is sort of the support version of lycan; leave him alone for more than 15 seconds and your t1 is gone. Consider that you will spend large parts of the game at levels 6-9 as a support. At this point you want to have the ability to
1. contribute in teamfights. Putting 320 damage on 2 or more enemies (when everyone has like 600-900 hp) is huge
2. flashfarm. Yes, Rhasta more so than other supports is an excellent flashfarmer because of Ether shock and his fantastic attack animation. Sneaking gold where you can is key.
3. Take objectives with your team. Sure rhasta has excellent teamfight but outside of teamfights if you're pushing with your team, dropping 320 on the creepwave will get you to the tower that much faster and then you can drop ulti on the tower.
4. Take roshan. Especially dire rhasta, with medallion and level 7 or 8 you can take Rosh in 10-15 seconds with the help of 1 or more teammates.
Shaman is all about snowballing and getting the most out of your excellent damage dealing spells in the midgame so it pains me physically to see someone go 0/4/4/1 and then get so mad he has to post in a QQ thread. You're doing it wrong! Dont get discouraged from supporting
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On May 05 2014 17:50 Belisarius wrote:
Aghs effect. Scepter-able support = not a support anymore.
Carrybaddon in particular has always been a thing. He buys SnY more often than mekansm if you check dotabuff, which is pretty damning. It probably just seems more popular now that abba himself is on the up.
Not enough people who play Carry Abaddon abuse the bug where Armlet HP drain incorrectly counts as damage for Borrowed Time (it's not supposed to, since HP removal is not considered damage).
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Volvo doesn't want to to get past 4500 QQ
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Sandking who never bought any kind of support items the entire game:
"Noob viper no help bot"
"If you had dewarded like I told you, I could have helped bot easily. But as it was I'd be leaving their midcarry to farm to fail a gank because they always see me coming"
"is why we lose. viper noob"
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How could valve and icefrog let such a buggy, crashing and shitty frame rate piece of shit version version like 6.81 go trough beta?
I'm really disappointed...
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