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BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
May 01 2014 14:05 GMT
#20761
Seems like the only way to win games in Dota2 is to hope that you won't get people with brain damage on your team. My last game, for example, had a Legion commander who fed duels to the enemy team and sold all his items. Needless to say that the game was impossible to win.
Sad thing is he won't even get punished, but hey, that's what happens when a game is f2p.
VeryAverage
Profile Joined January 2011
United States424 Posts
May 01 2014 15:41 GMT
#20762
Dropped from 4350 k to now 3.8k flat. Looks like I need to put #roadto4k in my name.
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-01 16:01:41
May 01 2014 16:01 GMT
#20763
On May 02 2014 00:41 VeryAverage wrote:
Dropped from 4350 k to now 3.8k flat. Looks like I need to put #roadto4k in my name.

Better make it #roadto3k. We all know, that it's going downhill when you try your best. Happened to me as well.
EHOME 2010 never forget EHOME.GIGABYTE.AAA B-God In BurNing we trust BurNing your soul DK 2011-2014
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 01 2014 16:04 GMT
#20764
#RoadtoTI4K or something.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
May 01 2014 16:32 GMT
#20765
Axe went into the jungle, didn't come out until he had Vanguard (against QoP/Silencer/Necro/PL...) and a Blink. Chose the absolutely fucking worst engagements I've ever seen, we lost 2 teamfights in a row for really dumb reasons and all of a sudden despite having a shitty early game, all of a sudden PL has Diffusal Heart and the game is fucked.

Fucking worthless player
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
May 01 2014 17:53 GMT
#20766
CK/Pugna can't win against Slark/KotL.

With a stun and a nuke slark shouldn't be hard to kill.
CK argues that KotL was the one who won the lane.
He started to troll and rejected the fault on the 3 other mates who were russians. They were actually speaking english (except one) for 3/4 of the game.

I can't believe it, we could have tried something, but when someone does that, hopes are lost.

AND BTW BROOD IS STILL A FUCKING HORRIBLE PIECE OF SHIT
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-01 17:59:16
May 01 2014 17:57 GMT
#20767
The only way Slark should ever die in that lane is if he's too slow to press Dark Pact while CK's stun is in the air. The only way he should ever get hit by Pugna's combo is if he's too slow to press Leap when he's decrepified. Non-instant disables/nukes basically don't threaten Slark at all.

Because he has KotL in the lane, he can use both of these super wastefully because his mana costs are actually really low.

Slark+KotL have a much easier time getting any kills than CK+Pugna unless KotL is awful and lets himself get initiated on.
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Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
May 01 2014 18:23 GMT
#20768
Yango bringing logic to the QQ thread
Fumanchu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada669 Posts
May 01 2014 19:50 GMT
#20769
Please, please, please, please, can you stick to bot games if all you want to do is screw around with the newly patched heroes?

I don't mean screw around as in you want to try out new strategies. I mean screw around as in, "I thought Kotl agh's upgrade was cool, so even though I've never played him before, I'm going to call support and then brown boots>aghs".
Easy doesnt fit into grownup life.
StarcracK
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada49 Posts
May 01 2014 20:13 GMT
#20770
On May 02 2014 01:01 Talron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2014 00:41 VeryAverage wrote:
Dropped from 4350 k to now 3.8k flat. Looks like I need to put #roadto4k in my name.

Better make it #roadto3k. We all know, that it's going downhill when you try your best. Happened to me as well.



dota trench too deep
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8262 Posts
May 01 2014 20:40 GMT
#20771
So, my friend got himself into low prio after his net went out. Tried a game with him:

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Can't even say if they where trolling or not. They sounded like they where 6-7 years old at best when speaking..
schimmetje
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands1104 Posts
May 01 2014 23:09 GMT
#20772
First game of the night, play godlike (which is about a once in a month occurrence), doesn't show up in match history.

Second game, near free farm on my lane, get first blood, network goes down. Check profile, oh this one does show up, we won with a rapier.. but I get an abandon. UGH.

This'd better not be the start of another month of shit servers or.. or.. sigh. It's going to be another month of shit servers, isn't it? ><
Change to MY nostalgia? UNACCEPTABLE! Monkey paaaw!
hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
May 01 2014 23:25 GMT
#20773
I still don't know how to kill a slark in pubs. I don't think you have the coordination to properly kill him unless you play like 5k MMR, or you have 5 instant disables.
Staboteur
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada1873 Posts
May 02 2014 01:15 GMT
#20774
I think my queue buddy gave up on dota. We played a CD, someone else got captain, he got stuck on SK and apparently forgot how to stack. After the 3rd stack fail I told him to just go sit in lane till 3 and I'd stack camps. He hits 3 and instead of going to clear the 4 stack with r2 sandstorm he instead just runs in circles in the lane pouting and talking about how he doesn't want to play anymore.

To top it all off the people we're queued with are a tri-stack and are spewing all kinds of hate over mic, blaming the entire game on such extravagant things as my 0/4/4/1 Shadow Shaman build, because apparently the best idea is to invest into a mana-heavy nuke when your items at 25 minutes are brown boots and a magic wand. Also heavy lockdown vs their morphling and TA is -terrible-, so 0/4/4 certifies me as medically retarded. Cough.

Other support not supporting + tri-stack that seems convinced that a singular support should be able to lane pull + stack camps for axe/sk + zone their magnus + gank other lanes + ward / deward all the while ending up with blink/mana boots / aghas by the 30 minute mark. Yeah, guys. You're right. My bad for not being pro.
I'm actually Fleetfeet D:
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-02 02:46:44
May 02 2014 02:45 GMT
#20775
Captain asks if anyone can play lone druid in his pushing line up. Everyone says no. Picks lone druid after everyone begged him to pick Lycan for the push line up. Feeds like a boss with Lone druid. Complaints because we didn't push hard enough.

Seriously, fuck ranked lately. I'm 600 mmr in the hole. I'm out for a while. Random draft and dota I don't care about.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
May 02 2014 06:28 GMT
#20776
On May 02 2014 10:15 Staboteur wrote:
I think my queue buddy gave up on dota. We played a CD, someone else got captain, he got stuck on SK and apparently forgot how to stack. After the 3rd stack fail I told him to just go sit in lane till 3 and I'd stack camps. He hits 3 and instead of going to clear the 4 stack with r2 sandstorm he instead just runs in circles in the lane pouting and talking about how he doesn't want to play anymore.

To top it all off the people we're queued with are a tri-stack and are spewing all kinds of hate over mic, blaming the entire game on such extravagant things as my 0/4/4/1 Shadow Shaman build, because apparently the best idea is to invest into a mana-heavy nuke when your items at 25 minutes are brown boots and a magic wand. Also heavy lockdown vs their morphling and TA is -terrible-, so 0/4/4 certifies me as medically retarded. Cough.

Other support not supporting + tri-stack that seems convinced that a singular support should be able to lane pull + stack camps for axe/sk + zone their magnus + gank other lanes + ward / deward all the while ending up with blink/mana boots / aghas by the 30 minute mark. Yeah, guys. You're right. My bad for not being pro.


I don't want to rain on your QQ parade too much but w/e; that 0/4/4/1 shadow shaman build is absolutely ass. It's so bad that I'm gonna QQ about it cuz I've seen how useless it is in few of my own games.

The whole "mana heavy nuker" thing is simply wrong. Shadow shadan has enough mana to use all of his spells once in a fight. If you don't have mana, thats your own fault for not managing resources properly. Burst dmg is king in Dota, especially in the early game. In fact, forked lightning is the highest dmg targetable spell at lvl1 and scales all the way to 320 dmg at lvl4 (when most aoe nukes are 300). In like 99% of situations, you're never going to get a full 5 second shackle off. You would have done more dmg with the nuke than having a couple more right clicks during the extra duration. I get you want lockdown vs a morph but burst dmg is actually more important since u already have a hex disable. Also the lvl1 shackle duration is more than enough time for allies to remove refraction charges from a TA. Like most squishy supports, you want to be able to do as much dmg as possible before you inevitably die.

I understand your other complaints but you gotta stop doing that build. Unless your team already has an ABSURD amount of dmg, I don't see this build ever being efficient.
DV G
Profile Joined September 2012
Argentina2339 Posts
May 02 2014 06:56 GMT
#20777
I just hate my life. i dont want to go over details, too fucking mad, Doto pls.
Go pro or die trying
Chrobbus
Profile Joined February 2010
Iceland195 Posts
May 02 2014 09:06 GMT
#20778
On May 02 2014 15:28 wuhan_clan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2014 10:15 Staboteur wrote:
I think my queue buddy gave up on dota. We played a CD, someone else got captain, he got stuck on SK and apparently forgot how to stack. After the 3rd stack fail I told him to just go sit in lane till 3 and I'd stack camps. He hits 3 and instead of going to clear the 4 stack with r2 sandstorm he instead just runs in circles in the lane pouting and talking about how he doesn't want to play anymore.

To top it all off the people we're queued with are a tri-stack and are spewing all kinds of hate over mic, blaming the entire game on such extravagant things as my 0/4/4/1 Shadow Shaman build, because apparently the best idea is to invest into a mana-heavy nuke when your items at 25 minutes are brown boots and a magic wand. Also heavy lockdown vs their morphling and TA is -terrible-, so 0/4/4 certifies me as medically retarded. Cough.

Other support not supporting + tri-stack that seems convinced that a singular support should be able to lane pull + stack camps for axe/sk + zone their magnus + gank other lanes + ward / deward all the while ending up with blink/mana boots / aghas by the 30 minute mark. Yeah, guys. You're right. My bad for not being pro.


I don't want to rain on your QQ parade too much but w/e; that 0/4/4/1 shadow shaman build is absolutely ass. It's so bad that I'm gonna QQ about it cuz I've seen how useless it is in few of my own games.

The whole "mana heavy nuker" thing is simply wrong. Shadow shadan has enough mana to use all of his spells once in a fight. If you don't have mana, thats your own fault for not managing resources properly. Burst dmg is king in Dota, especially in the early game. In fact, forked lightning is the highest dmg targetable spell at lvl1 and scales all the way to 320 dmg at lvl4 (when most aoe nukes are 300). In like 99% of situations, you're never going to get a full 5 second shackle off. You would have done more dmg with the nuke than having a couple more right clicks during the extra duration. I get you want lockdown vs a morph but burst dmg is actually more important since u already have a hex disable. Also the lvl1 shackle duration is more than enough time for allies to remove refraction charges from a TA. Like most squishy supports, you want to be able to do as much dmg as possible before you inevitably die.

I understand your other complaints but you gotta stop doing that build. Unless your team already has an ABSURD amount of dmg, I don't see this build ever being efficient.



Thank you dearly for pointing this out to him. Being close to 6k MMR I see this unbelievably often in my matchmaking games, a 0/4/4/1 shadow shaman and there is no response but a long drawn out sigh. I've literally never _understood_ the thought process behind going 0/4/4/1 but now I partly see it; i.e. people seem to think there is not enough mana to use lightning, hex, shackle (&wards). Unbelievable As you rightly pointed out, a shadowshaman #4-5 support is never going to be strong enough to hold out a level 4 shackle. That's something you aim towards late game when you might be getting BKB and you're auto attacks are significantly less prevalent. Not to speak of the obvious fact that you'll have zero capabilities of 'speed' farming if you have a 0/4/4/1; you'll be absolute paper the entire game unless your team snowballs hard.
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
May 02 2014 10:12 GMT
#20779
11-6-18 SK support and we still somehow lose the game because the two russians suck ass.
Thats not true.. the invoker was good but his trash friend troll was so fucking bad it was insane! Feeding all the time and always getting caught out. End of the game he is 2.9k MMR while his voker friend is 3.9
No Artosis, you are robin
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
May 02 2014 11:00 GMT
#20780
lost a game because of shitty pathfnding. Fucking fuck piece of shit fuck fuck fuck fucking fuckity fuck fuck fuck this shit.
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