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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 13 2018 12:02 GMT
#7281
http://tortedelini.com/2018/02/10/4-years-275-million-2017-dota-builds-project-year-review/

Year-in-Review released
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 13 2018 20:03 GMT
#7282
^no longer testing hero builds
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-15 18:02:30
February 14 2018 16:08 GMT
#7283
Omniknight
Added Aeon Disk to Situational Items
Added Scythe of Vyse to Extension Items
Moved Soul Ring to Early Game
Moved Aether Lens to Core Items
Moved Blink Dagger to Situational Items
Removed Mekansm

Naga Siren (Support)
New Skill Build: E W W E W R W E E T Q R Q Q T Q R T T (1. Ensnare 2. Rip Tide 3. Mirror Image)
Added Tranquil Boots to Core Items
Added Meteor Hammer to Core Items
Added Spirit Vessel to Situational Items
Added Force Staff to Situational Items
Added Lotus Orb to Situational Items
Moved Solar Crest to Core Items
Moved Blink Dagger to Extension Items
Moved Pipe of Insight to Extension Items
Moved Heaven's Halberd to Extension Items
Removed Arcane Boots
Removed Mekansm
Removed Healing Salve
Removed Iron Branch x2
Removed Quelling Blade
Removed Guardian Greaves
Removed Vladmir's Offering

Batrider
Moved Meteor Hammer to Extension Items

Invoker (Quas/Exort)
New Skill Build: E Q E Q E W E Q E T E Q E W W W T W W W T Q Q Q T (1. Exort 2. Wex 3. Quas)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+30 Chaos Meteor Contact Damage), 17 (+1 Forged Spirit Summoned), 21 (+35 Alacrity Damage/Speed), 25 (Radial Deafening Blast)
Added Faerie Fire to Starting Items
Added Iron Branch to Starting Items
Added Wraith Band to Starting Items
Added Magic Wand to Early Game
Added Ring of Aquila to Early Game
Moved Infused Raindrop to Situational Items
Removed Null Talisman
Removed Tango

Invoker (Quas/Wex)
New Skill Build: E W E Q E Q E Q E W E W E Q T T W W W Q T W Q Q T (1. Exort 2. Wex 3. Quas)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+0.3s Tornado Lift Time), 15 (+1 Forged Spirit Summoned), 20 (+35 Alacrity Damage Speed), 25 (-16s Tornado Cooldown)
Created New Tab: "Early Game"
Added Null Talisman to Starting Items
Added Iron Branch to Starting Items
Added Boots of Speed to "Early Game"
Added Power Treads to Core Items
Moved Magic Wand to "Early Game"
Moved Linken's Sphere to Core Items
Moved Black King Bar to Extension Items
Removed Faerie Fire
Removed Tango
Removed Phase Boots
Removed Urn of Shadows

Dark Seer
New Skill Build: W E W E W Q W Q Q Q R E E T T R R T T (1. Ion Shell 2. Surge 3. Vacuum)
New Talent Tree: 14 (+90 Damage), 15 (+75 Vacuum AoE), 20 (15% Cooldown Reduction), 25 (+150 Ion Shell Damage)
Added Helm of the Dominator to Core Items
Removed Mekansm

Night Stalker
New Skill Build: Q E Q W Q R Q E E E T R W W T W R T T (1. Void 2. Hunter in the Night 3. Crippling Fear)
Added Heart of Tarrasque to Extension Items
Moved Spirit Vessel to Core Items
Removed Urn of Shadows

Elder Titan (Offlane)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+25 Movement Speed), 15 (+15% Magic Resistance), 20 (+100 Echo Stomp Damage), 25 (-75 Earth Splitter Cooldown)
Added Aeon Disk to Extension Items
Moved Lotus Orb to Situational Items
Moved Heaven's Halberd to Situational Items
Moved Meteor Hammer to Extension Items
Removed Crimson Guard

Ember Spirit (Physical)
New Skill Build: Q E E Q E R E Q Q T W R W W T W R T T (1. Flame Guard 2. Searing Chains 3. Sleight of Fist)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+25 Damage), 15 (+1 Searing Chains), 20 (True Strike), 25 (2 Sleight of Fist Charges)
Added Nullifier to Extension Items

Ember Spirit (Magic)
New Skill Build: E Q E Q E R E W Q T Q R W W T W R T T (1. Flame Guard 2. Searing Chains 3. Sleight of Fist)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+200 Flame Guard Absorption), 15 (+50 Flame Guard DPS), 20 (10% Spell Amplification), 25 (-25 Remnant Charge Restore Time)
Added Ring of Aquila to Core Items
Moved Linken's Sphere to Core Items
Moved Blink Dagger to Extension Items

Timbersaw
New Skill Build: E Q E W E R W W W T E R Q Q T Q R T T (1. Timber Chain 2. Reactive Armor 3. Whirling Death)
New Talent Tree: 10 (25% XP Gain), 15 (+5 Reactive Armor Stacks), 20 (10% Cooldown Reduction), 25 (+1400 Timber Chain Range)
Added Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Extension Items
Moved Black King Bar to Situational Items
Moved Lotus Orb to Extension Items
Removed Hood of Defiance

Brewmaster (Offlane)
Added Soul Ring to Early Game
Added Power Treads to Core Items
Added Drum of Endurance to Situational Items
Added Aeon Disk to Situational Items
Added Scythe of Vyse to Extension Items
Moved Magic Wand to Core Items
Moved Linken's Sphere to Situational Items
Moved Black King Bar to Extension Items
Moved Assault Cuirass to Extension Items
Moved Shiva's Guard to Extension Items
Removed Enchanted Mango
Removed Iron Branch
Removed Arcane Boots
Removed Radiance
Removed Lotus Orb
Removed Refresher Orb

Brewmaster (Core)
Added Healing Salve to Starting Items
Added Enchanted Mango to Starting Items
Added Soul Ring to Early Game
Added Octarine Core to Extension Items
Added Shiva's Guard to Extension Items
Moved Black King Bar to Core Items
Moved Bottle to Situational Items
Moved Hand of Midas to Situational Items
Removed Quelling Blade
Removed Infused Raindrop
Removed Refresher Orb

Weaver (Core)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+20 Mana Break), 15 (+12 Strength), 20 (+2 Swarm Attacks to Kill), 25 (+200 Shukuchi Movement Speed)
Added Hurricane Pike to Situational Items
Moved Desolator to Situational Items
Removed Dragon Lance

Weaver (Support)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+20 Mana Break), 15 (+12 Strength), 20 (+2 Swarm Attacks to Kill), 25 (+200 Shukuchi Movement Speed)

Ursa (Core)
Added Skull Basher to Core Items
Added Satanic to Extension Items
Removed Vladmir's Offering
Removed Heaven's Halberd

Ursa (Jungle)
Added Skull Basher to Core Items
Added Satanic to Extension Items
Removed Vladmir's Offering
Removed Heaven's Halberd

Spirit Breaker
New Skill Build: Q E Q E Q R Q W E T E R W W T W R T T (1. Charge of Darkness 2. Greater Bash 3. Empowering Haste)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+5 Armor), 15 (+10 Health Regen), 20 (+400 Charge Speed), 25 (+800 Health)
Added Hand of Midas to Situational Items
Moved Spirit Vessel to Core Items
Moved Blade Mail to Situational Items
Moved Lotus Orb to Extension Items
Removed Observer Ward
Removed Vladmir's Offering

Omniknight
Added Iron Branch to Starting Items
Removed Soul Ring

Shadow Fiend
New Talent Tree: 10 (+10% Spell Amplification), 15 (+40 Movement Speed), 20 (+150 Shadowraze Damage), 25 (40% Cooldown Reduction)
Created New Tab: "Core Items (Magic)"
Created New Tab: "Extension Items (Magic)"
Added Eul's Scepter of Divinity to "Core Items (Magic)"
Added Blink Dagger to "Core Items (Magic)"
Added Nullifier to Extension Items
Added Bloodthorn to "Extension Items (Magic)"
Added Ethereal Blade to "Extension Items (Magic)"
Added Scythe of Vyse to "Extension Items (Magic)"
Added Octarine Core to "Extension Items (Magic)"
Added Shiva's Guard to "Extension Items (Magic)"
Added Boots of Travel to "Extension Items (Magic)"
Moved Ring of Aquila to Early Game
Moved Aghanim's Scepter to "Core Items (Magic)"
Moved Shadow Blade to Situational Items
Moved Silver Edge to Extension Items
Removed Shadow Blade

Bristleback
New Talent Tree: 10 (+2 Mana Regen), 15 (+250 Health), 20 (+20 Health Regen), 25 (15% Spell Lifesteal)
Moved Blade Mail to Situational Items

Lina (Core)
Moved Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Core Items
Moved Boots of Travel to Core Items
Moved Shadow Blade to Situational Items

Lina (Support)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+100 Cast Range), 15 (+140 Light Striek Array Damage), 20 (+10% Spell Amplification), 25 (-6 Dragon Slave Cooldown)
Moved Rod of Atos to Core Items
Moved Shadow Blade to Situational Items

Lifestealer (Core)
New Skill Build: WE Q Q Q R Q E E T E R W W T W R T T (1. Rage 2. Open Wounds 3. Feast)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+20 Attack Speed), 15 (+35 Movement Speed), 20 (20% Evasion), 25 (+2s Rage Duration)
Added Monkey King Bar to Extension Items
Added Nullifier to Extension Items
Moved Sange & Yasha to Core Items
Removed Quelling Blade
Removed Heaven's Halberd
Removed Mjollnir

Lifestealer (Jungle)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+20 Attack Speed), 15 (+35 Movement Speed), 20 (20% Evasion), 25 (+2s Rage Duration)
Added Monkey King Bar to Extension Items
Added Nullifier to Extension Items
Moved Sange & Yasha to Core Items
Removed Heaven's Halberd
Removed Mjollnir

Spectre
Added Iron Branch x2 to Starting Items
Added Magic Wand to Early Game
Added Power Treads to Core - Ganking
Added Ring of Aquila to Core - Ganking
Added Vanguard to Situational Items
Moved Blade Mail to Core - Ganking
Removed Healing Salve
Removed Phase Boots
Removed Mask of Madness
Removed Orb of Venom

Puck
New Skill Build: Q E Q W Q R Q W W W E E E T T R R T T (1. Illusory Orb 2. Waning Rift 3. Phase Shift)
Moved Magic Wand to Early Game

Zeus
New Talent Tree: 10 (+25% XP Gain), 15 (+40 Movement Speed), 20 (15% Cooldown Reduction), 25 (+170 Arc Lightning Damage)
Moved Blink Dagger to Situational Items
Moved Force Staff to Extension Items

Contributors: DarthyTMC, sCuMBaG, tehh4ck3r
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-15 18:01:32
February 14 2018 16:09 GMT
#7284
ed
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 15 2018 18:01 GMT
#7285
publishing
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 15 2018 18:09 GMT
#7286
On February 16 2018 03:01 Torte de Lini wrote:
publishing

b-b-b-but there's a patch coming out sometime in the next couple of hours
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 15 2018 18:17 GMT
#7287
On February 16 2018 03:09 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2018 03:01 Torte de Lini wrote:
publishing

b-b-b-but there's a patch coming out sometime in the next couple of hours


yeah, that's why I published these out now before I make a new patch post with those updates.
I don't really like this new patch system as a guide maker (as a player, I prefer it).
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-18 19:47:27
February 15 2018 20:10 GMT
#7288
7.09 Planning Post

Personal Notes
    Items
  • Courier Cost reduction is a just a step to it eventually becoming free, but then supports will need something else to buy otherwise they may become too rich in the early game
  • Tangoes being reduced in #s is because all 5 were rarely used and often meant people would skip other major regeneration items

    Hero Changes
  • n/a






Actual Schedule (CET)
Day 1 - 6 hours
- 3:00-3:30PM: Setting up Planning Posts + Data Sheet
- 3:30-4:30PM: Reading Patch Notes + Personal Notes
- 7:00-11:30PM: Revised Hero Builds (A-C)

Day 2 - 8.5 hours
- 11:30AM-1:30: Revised Hero Builds (D-J)
- 1:30-1:50: Contemplation if I still want to do the Hero Builds Project
- 1:50-4:00: Revised Hero Builds (J-P)
- 4:00-6:00: Dinner
- 6:00-8:30: Revised Hero Builds (P-Z)

Day 3 - 3 hours
- 7:30-9:30AM: Hyperlinking all the guides, revisions and details,
- 4:30-5:30PM: Announcement preparation, messaging

Total Elapsed Time: 17.5 Hours




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New color for patch 7.09 (Silk Purple)
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-19 12:52:45
February 15 2018 20:14 GMT
#7289
Applied Changes: February 16 (5:30 CET)

Actual Schedule (CET)
Day 1 - 6 hours
- 3:00-3:30PM: Setting up Planning Posts + Data Sheet
- 3:30-4:30PM: Reading Patch Notes + Personal Notes
- 7:00-11:30PM: Revised Hero Builds (A-C)

Day 2 - 8.5 hours
- 11:30AM-1:30: Revised Hero Builds (D-J)
- 1:30-1:50: Contemplation if I still want to do the Hero Builds Project
- 1:50-4:00: Revised Hero Builds (J-P)
- 4:00-6:00: Dinner
- 6:00-8:30: Revised Hero Builds (P-Z)

Day 3 - 3 hours
- 7:30-9:30AM: Hyperlinking all the guides, revisions and details,
- 4:30-5:30PM: Announcement preparation, messaging

Total Elapsed Time: 17.5 Hours



Total changes made: 479 approx. changes + 181 changes pre-patch (660 changes)
111 Guides applied (128 incl. pre-patch)
48 Guides remain unchanged




This latest update was made possible thanks to the feedback from the following community members. Sincerest thank you to: B. Jacobson, Mauvai, TFDota


Patreon.com/Torte, heartfelt appreciation and mention goes to these generous monthly Patron campaign supporters. Sincerest thank you to:

Alfred Vogl, Xeoneatos, Cam Connor, julian beck, Trent Monhana, Jade Wardle, szymond70, Loke Nielsen, Teruyo, Stepan Dyachovskiy, Chhatra Sule, Simon B, Dylan Lauritsen, Thane Brimhall, Mathew Buhler, Sean McMurray, James, Sutas, Bartlomiej Jan Pasek, Chris Missal, John Rinehart, Michael Carmody, Alexander Scheurer, Joshua Goodwin, James Sarjeant, Jordan Parker, Kenneth Sologaistoa, Hamad AlZayani, DaChrisse, Jeroen Koenders, Alan Meng, Dice, Vodka, Andrew Krigline, Garbarise, Andrew Heckathorn, Captain Marvelous, Katilyn McDougle, Benjamin Richter, dsrtfx_xx, Michael Kaeser, Lowe Schmidt, Tony Heugh, James Merrill, Guitaringegg, JimmaDaRustla, Daxdiv, Ryan Goss, Nate Hubbard, The WLD Crew, Matthew Nami, AD2L, tale, Paul Martindale, Gilbert Hangel, Wilson Malcom, Elizaveta Yanovskaya, Daryl, Jesse Jorgensen-Price, John Killilea, Anna-karin, Mads Grau Kristensen, Oscar Swahn, Christopher Garcia, Kevin Janssens, Swaroop Jegde, Anagh Kumar Baranwal, Jesse Ruth, Luke Mirman, Jose Cacho, Eric Barett, JJ Sigler, Mr Magnificent, Ian Lunderskov, Unfun, Douglas Hitchcock, Nick Mayo, Liam Metzeling, Stefan Chladek, George Azarias, Christopher Dickson, S J, Tyler Reid, Aaron Bell, Cooper Johnson, Samuel Enocsson, slashershot, Igor Dolgiy, Josh Laseter, Gerald Callow, zyberspace, Kjetil Kultom, Steve, Joshua Rodman, Moe Foster


Abaddon
Added Observer Ward to Starting Items
Added Enchanted Mango to Starting Items
Removed Iron Branch x2
Removed Clarity

Alchemist (Physical)
New Skill Build: E W Q W W R W Q Q T Q R E E T E R T T (1. Unstable Concoction 2. Acid Spray 3. Greevil's Greed)
New Talent Tree: 10 (-8s Unstable Concoction Cooldown), 15 (+400 Health), 20 (+400 Unstable Concoction Damage), 25 (+30 Chemical Rage Regeneration)
Added Iron Branch x2 to Starting Items
Added Healing Salve to Starting Items
Added Enchanted Mango to Starting Items
Added Pipe of Insight to Situational Items
Moved Armlet of Mordiggian to Core Items
Moved Solar Crest to Core Items
Moved Sange & Yasha to Situational Items
Removed Quelling Blade
Removed Soul Ring

Alchemist (Radiance)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+25 Attack Speed), 15 (+400 Health), 20 (+25% Cleave), 25 (-0.2 Chemical Rage Base Attack Time)
Added Monkey King Bar to Extension Items
Removed Faerie Fire

Ancient Apparition x2
New Skill Build: E Q Q W Q R Q W W T W R E E T E R T T (1. Cold Feet 2. Ice Vortex 3. Chilling Touch)
Added Clarity to Starting Items
Added Iron Branch x2 to Starting Items
Added Magic Wand to Core Items

Axe (Jungle)
Added Healing Salve to Starting Items
Removed Iron Branch

Axe (Core)
Added Enchanted Mango to Starting Items

Bane
Added Observer Ward to Starting Items
Added Tranquil Boots to Core Items
Moved Aether Lens to Core Items
Moved Force Staff to Extension Items

Batrider
New Skill Build: Q E Q E E R E Q Q T W R W W T W R T T (1. Firefly 2. Sticky Napalm 3. Flamebreak)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+6% Spell Amplification), 15 (+300 Health), 20 (15% Cooldown Reduction), 25 (+8s Firefly Duration)
Added Wind Lace to Starting Items
Added Healing Salve to Starting Items
Added Magic Wand to Core Items
Added Enchanted Mango to Starting Items
Removed Boots of Speed

Beastmaster (Jungle)
New Skill Build: W E W E W R W E E T Q R Q Q T Q R T T (1. Call of the Wild 2. Inner Beast 3. Wild Axes)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+25% XP Gain), 15 (+7 Armor), 20 (+100 Wild Axes Damage), 25 (+40 Inner Beast Attack)
Created New Tab: "Early Game"
Added Helm of the Dominator to "Early Game"
Added Boots of Speed to "Early Game"
Added Healing Salve to Starting Items
Added Phase Boots to Core Items
Added Shadow Blade to Situational Items
Moved Pipe of Insight to Situational Items
Moved Heaven's Halberd to Extension Items
Removed Iron Branch
Removed Tranquil Boots
Removed Force Staff

Beastmaster (Offlane)
New Skill Build: Q E Q E Q R Q E E T W R W W T W R T T (1. Wild Axes 2. Inner Beast 3. Call of the Wild)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+25% XP Gain), 15 (+7 Armor), 20 (+100 Wild Axes Damage), 25 (+40 Inner Beast Attack)
Added Phase Boots to Core Items
Added Soul Ring to Core Items
Added Shadow Blade to Situational Items
Moved Pipe of Insight to Situational Items
Moved Heaven's Halberd to Extension Items
Removed Tranquil Boots

Bloodseeker (Core) x2
New Skill Build: Q E E W E R E W W T W R Q Q T Q R T T (1. Thirst 2. Blood Rite 3. Bloodrage)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+25 Attack Speed), 15 (+75 Blood Rite Damage), 20 (25% Lifesteal), 25 (+20 Max Thirst MS and Damage)
Added Quelling Blade to Starting Items
Added Enchanted Mango to Starting Items
Added Nullifier to Extension Items
Moved Silver Edge to Situational Items
Moved Manta Style to Situational Items
Removed Orb of Venom

Bloodseeker (Jungle)
Added Stout Shield to Starting Items
Added Quelling Blade to Starting Items

Bounty Hunter
Created New Tab: "Early Game"
Added Boots of Speed to "Early Game"
Added Magic Wand to "Early Game"
Added Urn of Shadows to Core Items (Lite)

Brewmaster (Offlane)
Added Enchanted Mango to Starting Items

Bristleback
Added Enchanted Mango to Starting Items
Added Black King Bar to Situational Items
Moved Solar Crest to Extension Items (Offensive)
Moved Pipe of Insight to Extension Items (Defensive)

Broodmother
New Skill Build: W Q Q W Q W Q W R E E R E T T E R T T (1. Spawn Spiderlings 2. Spin Web 3. Incapacitating Bite)
Added Enchanted Mango x2 to Starting Items
Added Orchid of Malevolence to Core Items
Removed Stout Shield
Removed Blight Stone

Centaur Warrunner
Moved Magic Wand to Early Game

Chaos Knight
New Skill Build: Q W Q W W E W R E T E R E Q T Q R T T (1. Reality Rift 2. Chaos Strike 3. Chaos Bolt)

Chen
New Talent Tree: 10 (+200 Cast Range), 15 (-10s Test of Faith Cooldown), 20 (+180 Gold/Min), 25 (+400 Hand of God Heal)
Added Hand of Midas to Situational Items

Clinkz
New Skill Build: W Q W E W Q Q Q E E R W T T E R T T (1. Strafe 2. Searing Arrows 3. Skeleton Walk)
New Talent Tree: 14 (+12% Magic Resistance), 15 (+30 Searing Arrows Damage), 20 (+20 Health Regen), 25 (+4 Strafe Stacks/Duration)
Added Nullifier to Extension Items
Moved Medallion of Courage to Early Game
Moved Solar Crest to Situational Items

Renamed Roamer
Clockwerk
Added Boots of Speed to Starting Items
Moved Spirit Vessel to Core Items
Moved Blade Mail to Situational Items
Moved Aghanim's Scepter to Extension Items
Removed Stout Shield
Removed Iron Branch x2
Removed Healing Salve

Crystal Maiden
New Talent Tree: 10 (+100 Cast Range), 15 (+14% Manacost/Manaloss Reduction Aura), 20 (+60 Freezing Field Damage), 25 (+1.5s Frostbite Duration)
Moved Force Staff to Core Items
Removed Iron Branch x2

Dark Seer
New Skill Build: W E W E W Q W Q R T Q R Q E T E R T T (1. Ion Shell 2. Vacuum 3. Surge)
Added Observer Ward to Starting Items
Moved Helm of the Dominator to Situational Items

Dark Willow (Core)
New Skill Build: W Q W E W R W Q Q T Q R E E T E R T T (1. Shadow Realm 2. Bramble Maze 3. Cursed Crown)
Added Black King Bar to Extension Items

Dark Willow (Support)
New Skill Build: Q W W E W R W Q Q T Q R E E T E R T T (1. Shadow Realm 2. Bramble Maze 3. Cursed Crown)
Added Enchanted Mango to Starting Items
Moved Kaya to Core Items
Moved Veil of Discord to Situational Items

Dazzle
Added Medallion of Courage to Core Items
Moved Glimmer Cape to Core Items
Moved Solar Crest to Extension Items

Death Prophet
New Skill Build: Q E E Q Q R Q E E T W R W W T W R T T (1. Crypt Swarm 2. Spirit Siphon 3. Silence)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+50 Damage), 15 (+150 Cast Range), 20 (+500 Health), 25 (Exorcism Grants Haste)
Added Magic Wand to Core Items

Disruptor
Added Observer Ward to Starting Items
Added Aether Lens to Extension Items
Moved Blink Dagger to Situational Items
Moved Meteor Hammer to Extension Items

Doom (Jungle)
Added Healing Salve to Starting Items
Removed Iron Branch

Doom (Offlane)
Added Enchanted Mango to Starting Items
Removed Iron Branch x2

Dragon Knight x2
New Skill Build: Q E Q E Q R W Q E T E R W W T W R T T (1. Breathe Fire 2. Dragon Blood 3. Dragon Tail)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+30 Attack Speed), 15 (+35 Damage), 20 (2x Dragon Blood HP Regen/Armor), 25 (+40 Strength)
Added Boots of Speed to Early Game
Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items
Moved Magic Wand to Early Game
Removed Moon Shard

Drow Ranger
Added Dragon Lance to Core Items
Moved Mask of Madness to Situational Items
Removed Morbid Mask

Earth Spirit x2
Moved Urn of Shadows to Early Game
Moved Magic Wand to Core Items

Earthshaker
Added Wind Lace to Starting Items
Added Iron Branch to Starting Items
Added Observer Ward to Starting Items
Removed Boots of Speed

Elder Titan (Core)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+25 Movement Speed), 15 (+30 Astral Spirit Hero Attack), 20 (+70 Attack Speed), 25 (-75 Earth Splitter Cooldown)
Added Enchanted Mango to Starting Items
Added Observer Ward to Starting Items
Added Magic Wand to Core Items
Added Drum of Endurance to Core Items
Added Sange & Yasha to Core Items
Added Assault Cuirass to Extension Items
Added Black King Bar to Extension Items
Added Aghanim's Scepter to Extension Items
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Removed Bottle
Removed Rod of Atos
Removed Shadow Blade
Removed Monkey King bar
Removed Heart of Tarrasque
Removed Refresher Orb

Elder Titan (Support)
Added Wind Lace to Starting Items
Moved Meteor Hammer to Core Items
Moved Force Staff to Extension Items
Removed Stout Shield

Enchantress
Added Clarity to Starting Items
Moved Aghanim's Scepter to Extension Items
Removed Moon Shard

Renamed Offlane
Enigma
New Talent Tree: 10 (+15% Magic Resistance), 15 (15% Cooldown Reduction), 20 (+70 Eidolon Damage), 25 (+8 Demonic Conversion Eidolons)
Added Pipe of Insight to Situational Items
Added Octarine Core to Extension Items
Moved Boots of Speed to Starting Items

Faceless Void
New Skill Build: Q E E Q E R E Q Q T W R W W T W R T T (1. Time Lock 2. Time Walk 3. Time Dilation)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+20 Damage), 15 (+300 Health), 20 (+500 Timewalk Cast Range), 25 (+175 Chronosphere AoE)
Added Iron Branch x2 to Starting Items
Added Enchanted Mango to Starting Items
Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items
Moved Battle Fury to Core Items
Moved Back King Bar to Core Items
Moved Mask of Madness to Situational Items
Moved Linken's Sphere to Situational Items
Removed Shadow Blade
Removed Healing Salve

Gyrocopter (Roamer)
Added Boots of Speed to Starting Items
Added Clarity to Starting Items
Added Aether Lens to Core Items
Added Spirit Vessel to Extension Items
Moved Lotus Orb to Situational Items
Moved Solar Crest to Extension Items
Removed Observer Ward
Removed Kaya
Removed Veil of Discord

Gyrocopter (Core)
Moved Drum of Endurance to Core Items
Moved Mask of Madness to Situational Items
Removed Boots of Speed

Huskar
New Skill Build: W E W Q W R W E E T E Q Q Q T R R T T (1. Burning Spear 2. Berserker's Blood 3. Inner Vitality)
Added Enchanted Mango to Starting Items
Moved Heaven's Halberd to Core Items
Moved Black King Bar to Extension Itens
Removed Healing Salve
Removed Dragon Lance

Jakiro
Added Observer Ward to Starting Items
Added Iron Branch x2 to Starting Items

Juggernaut
Added Enchanted Mango to Starting Items

Renamed Roamer
Kunkka (Support)
Moved Boots of Speed to Starting Items
Removed Animal Courier
Removed Observer Ward
Removed Iron Branch x2

Kunkka (Core)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+40 Damage), 15 (+10 Health Regen), 20 (+25 Strength), 25 (+50% Tidebringer Cleave)
Removed Iron Branch

Legion Commander (Core)
Removed Iron Branch
Removed Magic Wand

Legion Commander (Jungle)
Added Healing Salve to Starting Items

Leshrac (Core)
New Skill Build: Q E E Q W R W W W T Q R Q E T E R T T (1. Diabolic Edict 2. Split Earth 3. Lightning Storm)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+5 Armor), 15 (+40 Movement Speed), 20 (+50 Pulse Nova Damage), 25 (+50 Diabolic Edict Explosions)
Moved Blink Dagger to Situational Items
Moved Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Extension Items

Leshrac (Support)
Added Observer Ward to Starting Items
Added Kaya to Extension Items
Moved Rod of Atos to Situational Items
Moved Blink Dagger to Situational Items
Moved Force Staff to Extension Items

Lich
New Skill Build: E Q E Q E R E W Q Q T R W W T W R T T (1. Sacrifice 2. Frost Blast 3. Ice Armor)
Added Iron Branch to Starting Items

Lion
New Talent Tree: 10 (+75 Cast Range), 15 (+200 Finger of Death Damage), 20 (+500 Health), 25 (+1000 Earth Spike Range)
Added Observer Ward to Starting Items
Added Wind Lace to Starting Items
Moved Force Staff to Core Items
Moved Glimmer Cape to Extension Items
Removed Iron Branch x2

Luna
Moved Hurricane Pike to Extension Items

Magnus
Added Clarity to Starting Items
Added Aghanim's Scepter to Extension Items
Moved Lotus Orb to Situational Items

Meepo
New Skill Build: W Q R W W E W E E T R E Q Q T Q R T T (1. Poof 2. Geostrike 3. Earthbind)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+20 Damage), 15 (10% Lifesteal), 20 (15% Evasion), 25 (+600 Health)
Moved Ethereal Blade to Extension Items
Removed Heart of Tarrasque

Mirana
Added Faerie Fire to Starting Items
Moved Manta Style to Situational Items
Moved Hurricane Pike to Extension Items
Removed Healing Salve

Monkey King (Core)
Added Enchanted Mango to Starting Items
Added Eye of Skadi to Extension Items
Moved Black King Bar to Core Items (Safe Lane)
Moved Black King Bar to Core Items (Aggressive)

Monkey King (Roamer)
Added Iron Branch to Starting Items

Nature's Prophet
Added Hand of Midas to Situational Items

Necrophos
New Skill Build: E Q Q W Q R Q E E T E R W W T W R T T (1. Death Pulse 2. Heartstopped Aura 3. Ghost Shroud)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+40 Damage), 15 (+300 Health), 20 (+20% Magic Resistance), 25 (+0.6 Heartstopper Aura)
Added Lotus Orb to Situational Items
Removed Aeon Disk

Night Stalker
Added Enchanted Mango to Starting Items
Removed Clarity

Nyx Assassin (Offlane)
New Skill Build: Q E Q W Q R Q W W W T R E E T E R T T (1. Impale 2. Mana Burn 3. Spiked Carapace)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+60 Gold/Min), 15 (+35 Movement Speed), 20 (+175 Impale Damage), 25 (+100 Agility)
Created New Tab: "Early Game"
Added Observer Ward to Starting Items
Added Healing Salve to Starting Items
Added Meteor Hammer to Core Items
Added Boots of Speed to "Early Game"
Added Urn of Shadows to "Early Game"
Moved Force Staff to Situational Items
Moved Aghanim's Scepter to Extension Items
Removed Enchanted Mango
Removed Dagon - Level 5
Removed Vladmir's Offering

Nyx Assassin (Support)
Created New Tab: "Early Game"
Added Boots of Speed to "Early Game"
Added Urn of Shadows to "Early Game"
Added Clarity to Starting Items
Added Ghost Scepter to Situational Items
Moved Magic Wand to "Early Game"
Moved Spirit Vessel to Core Items
Moved Lotus Orb to Situational Items
Removed Magic Wand

Ogre Magi
New Skill Build: W Q W E E R E W W T E R Q Q T Q R T T (1. Ignite 2. Bloodlust 3. Fireblast)
Added Boots of Speed to Starting Items
Moved Aether Lens to Core Items
Moved Glimmer Cape to Situational Items
Moved Spirit Vessel to Extension Items
Removed Observer Ward
Removed Iron Branch

Omniknight
New Talent Tree: 10 (+90 Gold/Min), 15 (+35% XP Gain), 20 (-12% Degen Aura), 25 (+200 Purification Damage/Heal)
Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items
Added Scythe of Vyse to Extension Items
Moved Aghanim's Scepter to Core Items
Removed Guardian Greaves

SirActionSlacks
Added Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Core Items
Moved Drum of Endurance to Situational Items
Moved Octarine Core to Extension Items
Removed Linken's Sphere
Removed Aeon Disk

Oracle x2
Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items
Moved Spirit Vessel to Extension Items
Removed Guardian Greaves

Outworld Devourer
New Skill Build: W E E Q E R W W W T E Q Q R T Q R T T (1. Essence Aura 2. Astral Imprisonment 3. Arcane Orb)

Pangolier
New Skill Build: Q E Q W Q R Q W W T W R E E T E R T T (1. Swashbuckle 2. Shield Crash 3. Heartpiercer)
Added Enchanted Mango to Starting Items
Added Basher to Core Items
Added Guardian Greaves to Extension Items
Added Daedalus to Extension Items
Moved Magic Wand to Early Game
Moved Diffusal Blade to Situational Items
Moved Linken's Sphere to Extension Items
Removed Iron Branch
Removed Boots of Travel

Phantom Assassin
Moved Mask of Madness to Situational Items

Phantom Lancer
New Skill Build: Q E Q W Q R Q E E T E R W W T W R T T (1. Spirit Lance 2. Phantom Rush 3. Doppelganger)
Added Quelling Blade to Starting Items
Removed Iron Branch
Removed Enchanted Mango

Phoenix (Offlane)
Added Meteor Hammer to Extension Items
Moved Observer Ward to Starting Items
Moved Spirit Vessel to Core Items
Moved Heaven's Halberd to Situational Items

Phoenix (Support)
New Skill build: Q W W E W R W E E T E R Q Q T Q R T T (1. Fire Spirits 2. Sun Ray 3. Icarus Dive)
Added Observer Ward to Starting Items
Added Meteor Hammer to Core Items
Moved Rod of Atos to Situational Items

Pugna
New Skill Build: Q W Q W Q R Q W W T E R E E T E R T T (1. Nether Blast 2. Decrepify 3. Nether Ward)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+225 Health), 15 (-1s Netherblast Cooldown), 20 (+2s Decrepify Duration), 25 (+200 Nether Blast Damage)
Added Meteor Hammer to Extension Items

Queen of Pain
Added Veil of Discord to Core Items
Removed Mjollnir

Razor
New Skill Build: W Q W Q Q R Q E W T W R E E T E R T T (1. Plasma Field 2. Static Link 3. Unstable Current)
Removed Bottle

Rubick
Added Observer Ward to Starting Items
Added Iron Branch x2 to Starting Items
Moved Force Staff to Core Items
Moved Blink Dagger to Extension Items

Sandking
New Skill Build: E Q Q E Q R Q W W W T R W E T E R T T (1. Burrowstrike 2. Sand Storm 3. Caustic Finale)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+200 Health), 15 (+50 Sand Storm DPS), 20 (+10 Armor), 25 (+35 Health Regen)
Added Enchanted Mango to Starting Items
Added Aether Lens to Situational Items
Added Radiance to Extension Items
Removed Iron Branch
Removed Black King Bar
Removed Linken's Sphere

Shadow Demon
New Skill Build: Q E E W W R Q Q Q T W R W E T E R T T (1. Disruption 2. Soul Catcher 3. Shadow Poison)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+25% XP Gain), 15 (+25% Shadow Poison Damage), 20 (-6s Soul Catcher Cooldown), 25 (+500 Demonic Purge Damage)
Added Healing Salve to Starting Items
Moved Tranquil Boots to Core Items
Moved Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Extension Items
Removed Iron Branch
Removed Clarity

Slardar
New Skill Build: W Q W Q W R W Q Q T E R E E T E R T T (1. Slithereen Crush 2. Guardian Sprint 3. Bash of the Deep)
Added Enchanted Mango to Starting Items
Moved Shadow Blade to Situational Items
Moved Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Extension Items
Removed Clarity

Slark x2
Removed Skull Basher

Sniper x2
New Skill Build: W Q Q E Q R Q E E E T R W W W T R T T (1. Shrapnel 2. Take Aim 3. Headshot)

Spirit Breaker
Added Healing Salve to Starting Items
Removed Enchanted Mango

Sven
New Talent Tree: 10 (+8 Strength), 15 (+30 Damage), 20 (25% Lifesteal), 25 (+40 STR God's Strength)
Added Sange & Yasha to Core Items
Moved Echo Sabre to Situational Items

Techies
New Talent Tree: 10 (+30% XP Gain), 15 (+4 Mana Regen), 20 (+150 Gold/Min), 25 (+251 Damage)
Added Tango to Starting Items
Moved Aether Lens to Core Items (Offlane)
Moved Kaya to Situational Items
Removed Ring of Regeneration
Removed Bloodstone

Terrorblade
Added Iron Branch x2 to Starting Items

Tidehunter
New Skill Build: E W E Q E R E W W T W R Q Q T Q R T T (1. Anchor Smash 2. Kraken Shell 3. Gush)
Added Enchanted Mango to Starting Items
Added Aghanim's Scepter to Extension Items
Moved Guardian Greaves to Core Items

Tinker
Added Faerie Fire to Starting Items
Added Kaya to Situational Items
Moved Aether Lens to Core Items
Removed Tango

Tiny (Offlane)
Added Healing Salve to Starting Items
Removed Clarity

Treant Protector
New Talent Tree: 10 (+35% XP Gain), 15 (+90 Damage), 20 (+2s Nature's Guise Root), 25 (+350 Eyes and Overgrowth AoE)
Added Enchanted Mango
Moved Meteor Hammer to Core Items
Moved Solar Crest to Extension Items
Removed Clarity

Troll Warlord x2
Added Healing Salve to Starting Items
Added Battle Fury to Core Items
Moved Mask of Madness to Situational Items
Removed Shadow Blade
Removed Yasha

Tusk
New Skill Build: Q W Q E Q R Q W W T W R E E T E R T T (1. Ice Shards 2. Snowball 3. Frozen Sigil)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+90 Gold/Min), 15 (+150 Snowball Damage), 20 (+300 Snowball Speed), 25 (-6s Ice Shards Cooldown)
Added Tranquil Boots to Core Items
Added Shiva's Guard to Extension Items
Moved Spirit Vessel to Core Items
Moved Solar Crest to Extension Items
Removed Arcane Boots
Removed Glimmer Cape

Underlord (Core)
New Skill Build: E Q E Q Q R Q W W T W R W E T E R T T (1. Firestorm 2. Pit of Malice 3. Atrophy Aura)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+18 Firestorm Wave Damage), 15 (+100 Cast Range), 20 (+20 Health Regen), 25 (25% Firestorm Building Damage)
Added Enchanted Mango to Starting Items
Moved Crimson Guard to Core Items
Removed Iron Branch
Removed Quelling Blade
Removed Hood of Defiance

Underlord (Offlane)
Added Healing Salve to Starting Items

Undying
Added Healing Salve to Starting Items
Removed Iron Branch

Ursa (Jungle)
Added Healing Salve to Starting Items
Removed Iron Branch

Vengeful Spirit (Core)
Added Power Treads to Core Items
Removed Phase Boots

Renamed Support
Venomancer
New Skill Build: Q W E E E R E W W T W R Q Q T Q R T T (1. Plague Ward 2. Poison Sting 3. Venomous Gale)
Added Observer Ward to Starting Items
Added Force Staff to Core Items
Moved Blink Dagger to Core Items
Moved Aghanim's Scepter to Core Items
Moved Hurricane Pike to Extension Items
Moved Solar Crest to Extension Items
Moved Pipe of Insight to Extension Items
Removed Ring of Aquila
Removed Power Treads
Removed Mjollnir
Removed Black King Bar

Viper
Removed Veil of Discord
Removed Kaya
Removed Aghanim's Scepter

Visage
New Talent Tree: 10 (+125 Cast Range), 15 (+40% XP Gain), 20 (+80 Familiars Movement Speed), 25 (+1 Familiar)
Added Shiva's Guard to Extension Items
Moved Rod of Atos to Core Items
Moved Force Staff to Extension Items
Removed Nullifier

Windranger (Offlane)
Added Enchanted Mango
Removed Clarity

Winter Wyvern
Added Wind Lace to Starting Items

Zeus
New Talent Tree: 10 (+25% XP Gain), 15 (+40 Movement Speed), 20 (+0.5s Lightning Bolt Ministun), 25 (+170 Arc Lightning Damage)
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 15 2018 20:18 GMT
#7290
Well uh, tangos cost changed as did starting gold so rip every starting item set GG
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 15 2018 20:20 GMT
#7291
On February 16 2018 05:18 Sn0_Man wrote:
Well uh, tangos cost changed as did starting gold so rip every starting item set GG


yes, it's very annoying and greatly upsets me.
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28090 Posts
February 15 2018 21:32 GMT
#7292
I was gonna say this new system is probably going to suck for you

It really depends on the content of the patch I guess. Some might be fine.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-18 18:09:18
February 16 2018 06:58 GMT
#7293
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-18 18:09:21
February 18 2018 15:14 GMT
#7294
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Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
February 19 2018 01:34 GMT
#7295
Re: Year End Review

Yeah, I mostly stopped offering feedback because of quitting DotA. It had more to do with hardware problems than enthusiasm about the project. But the sheer complexity of the patches was also a factor - coming back after a forced break, all my intuitions about matchups were wrong.

Regarding suspiciously high counts for guide usage, I suspect their system is double counting some matches. For example, if I load up a game with Vengeful Spirit (Support) and then switch my guide to Vengeful Spirit (Core), I think it would count me as using both guides.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 19 2018 07:21 GMT
#7296
On February 19 2018 10:34 Buckyman wrote:
Re: Year End Review

Yeah, I mostly stopped offering feedback because of quitting DotA. It had more to do with hardware problems than enthusiasm about the project. But the sheer complexity of the patches was also a factor - coming back after a forced break, all my intuitions about matchups were wrong.

Regarding suspiciously high counts for guide usage, I suspect their system is double counting some matches. For example, if I load up a game with Vengeful Spirit (Support) and then switch my guide to Vengeful Spirit (Core), I think it would count me as using both guides.


I figured most either quit the game or simply don't have the interest to keep providing feedback.

The system for subscribers and # of games played I think are all wrong or inaccurate.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 19 2018 07:37 GMT
#7297
After 15 days (January 31 to February 15), we have risen from 297,478,000 to 300,537,659 combined subscriptions

A difference of 3,059,659
Average Subscribers per Guide is 1,914,252.61
Growth Percentage is 1.03%


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  1. Naga Siren (Support) (494,991)
  2. Pangolier (468,524)
  3. Underlord (Core) (456,976)
  4. Dark Willow (Core) (63,728)
  5. Dark Willow (Support) (7,736)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  1. Sven
  2. Phantom Assassin
  3. Juggernaut
  4. Faceless Void
  5. Luna


Newly Released Guides:




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    Portions of their pledges will go to long-time community members, dedicated to providing feedback to keep this collection of hero builds accurate to current standards of play.



    This latest update and hero builds changes was made possible thanks to the involvement of the following community members. Sincere thank you to: B. Jacobson, DarthyTMC, sCuMBaG, tehh4ck3r, Mauvai, TFDota
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    Torte de Lini
    Profile Blog Joined September 2010
    Germany38463 Posts
    February 19 2018 07:44 GMT
    #7298
    300 mil
    https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
    Torte de Lini
    Profile Blog Joined September 2010
    Germany38463 Posts
    Last Edited: 2018-02-22 07:26:26
    February 19 2018 20:24 GMT
    #7299
    Naga Siren: 1 point in Mirror Image early on
    Rubick: Republish Rubick
    Pangolier: QWQ
    Wyvern: Add Magic Wand
    SF Magic: BKB?
    Earth Spirit: https://www.reddit.com/r/HeroBuilds/comments/7yq3ap/earth_spirit/
    Storm: Power Treads instead of Arcane
    Viper: Aghs extension items
    TB: check talents
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    bdonballer
    Profile Joined October 2014
    United States408 Posts
    February 21 2018 06:08 GMT
    #7300
    I really wish more of the support builds had arcane boots over tranquil boots. Every game my 2 supports follow your standard build for tranquils. Heroes like Rubick and shadow demon, for example, are way better off with more mana than movespeed. It also helps your core players so much more if the supports had mana boots so you aren’t endlessly crowing clarities.

    Just my two cents
    I carry hard!
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