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llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
February 18 2013 12:02 GMT
#141
If you spend a lot of time on your computer or studying. Make sure you invest in an ergonomic chair. Or - make sure you have proper posture. The 4 curvatures (2 anterior - 2 posterior) are important to maintain. If not - you can develop several problems including humps and vertebrae fractures. Imagine when you are 50+ and your back is a living nightmare. Wouldn't you be willing to pay 1000 euros to get your back healthy again?
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
February 18 2013 12:04 GMT
#142
On February 18 2013 20:57 TheNumberE wrote:
your gonna want a chair, with regards to health reasons, with a waterfall edge; adjustable arm rests and chair height, a back that suits the curvature of your spine and a place to rest your feet so they don't dangle.
another really cool alternative would be this nifty item
http://www.officechairadvice.com/images/assets/multi-balans-5-large.jpg


i would rather castrate myself
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llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
February 18 2013 16:31 GMT
#143
Do anyone know about how the padding is in the Ergohuman chairs? Particularly with the mesh one.
That is also important for me.
FinBenton
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland870 Posts
February 18 2013 16:38 GMT
#144
On February 18 2013 11:40 Blackhawk13 wrote:
I can't recommend buying an IKEA chair. I bought an IKEA Markus Swivel chair that lasted me about a year. It seemed good at first, but eventually I started to have a lot of pain on my ass / coccyx. Then, to compensate, I started to sit in weird ways and developed back pain. I went back to my original, old, leather chair that I used for 8-9 years or so and my back feels so much better. The build quality on the Markus is also very poor. Everything seems to loosen up on it and you constantly have to tighten the screws on everything.

I think, with shipping, I (sadly) spent about $200 on this chair that I will never use again. I'm thinking that if I buy a new chair it will be a high end one. When I take into account the fact that I spent $200 on a chair that lasted me one year, if I spend $1000 on a chair that lasts me 10 years or more, I'm spending much more cost efficiently.

For some people the Markus Swivel may be fine, it could just be my body type, and I understand that spending in the ballpark of $500 to $1,000 on a chair is simply out of some people's budgets. Without having tried any high end chairs, I can't really recommend them either, but if they're as good as some people say they are, it has to be worth the investment if you have the money to do it.

My ikea markus was ok at first but it went bad under a year, would not recommend and it has like nothing to adjust..
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
February 18 2013 18:28 GMT
#145
On February 19 2013 01:38 FinBenton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 11:40 Blackhawk13 wrote:
I can't recommend buying an IKEA chair. I bought an IKEA Markus Swivel chair that lasted me about a year. It seemed good at first, but eventually I started to have a lot of pain on my ass / coccyx. Then, to compensate, I started to sit in weird ways and developed back pain. I went back to my original, old, leather chair that I used for 8-9 years or so and my back feels so much better. The build quality on the Markus is also very poor. Everything seems to loosen up on it and you constantly have to tighten the screws on everything.

I think, with shipping, I (sadly) spent about $200 on this chair that I will never use again. I'm thinking that if I buy a new chair it will be a high end one. When I take into account the fact that I spent $200 on a chair that lasted me one year, if I spend $1000 on a chair that lasts me 10 years or more, I'm spending much more cost efficiently.

For some people the Markus Swivel may be fine, it could just be my body type, and I understand that spending in the ballpark of $500 to $1,000 on a chair is simply out of some people's budgets. Without having tried any high end chairs, I can't really recommend them either, but if they're as good as some people say they are, it has to be worth the investment if you have the money to do it.

My ikea markus was ok at first but it went bad under a year, would not recommend and it has like nothing to adjust..


Exactly!
And you are probably going to get a new chair soon. Am I right? I think this is a good example of what happens to people buying Ikea chairs. The fact that you can't adjust anything is really annoying. It is easy to like them in the store.

I am talking to some people on youtube right now to see what they recommend. Currently I am aiming towards an Ergohuman V1 with Head and Lumbar rest/support in Mesh.
FA_ViPeR
Profile Joined June 2003
Germany187 Posts
February 18 2013 18:45 GMT
#146
On February 18 2013 20:24 skyR wrote:
Steelcase Leap or Herman Miller Aeron, out of your price range though. Just missed the semi annual Steelcase sale as well.

Ergohuman has lifetime warranty. Not sure where you got the two year warranty from...


Well I just looked at german vendors, only found online stores carrying them, and all 3 had a 2year warranty listed. The official UK/Europe site has much longer warranties listed as well as the US page, so sorry about that (will edit this in my original post).
But they are way more expensive on the european site, and possibly waiting weeks to get spare parts or even sending it in just won't cut it. Plus I found several comments in forums saying that the back/headrest is barely enough for 1.90m people (6'2" - 6'3"), so its too small for me anyway.

Steelcase chairs are on my radar too, but I can't find any information about bigger gas springs for them, so unless those are available, the seat height is 6-7cm (2.5") too low for me.

Btw forgot to mention some things in my first post:
Need this for my home, sitting there for maybe 4 hours per weekday, up to 8+ on the weekends.
As mentioned in my other post, I'm 1.96m (6'5"). I already have some minor problems with my back (upper and lower), occasional neckpains and funny enough my knees, mostly after sitting on the cheap piece of crap I'm currently using. The back/neck stuff I can avoid with walking and stretching for a bit, but thanks to insufficient height of the seat at about 50cm (20") while needing at least 58 (23"), the knee problems are more persistent, which is why I am so anal about the higher gas spring.
For the weekdays, a chair with a "normal-height" back without head/neckrest would definately do it, but for really long gaming/poker/movie/whatever sessions on the weekend I'd prefer it, cutting the possible chairs way down.

Increasing my (rather arbitrary) spending limit of 500€ to 1000€ isn't too big of a deal btw, as long as I get what I want/need in adjustability and warranty, because as already mentioned often in this thread, a much better chair lasting 12+ years for 1000 bucks is more than worth it over 150€ chairs lasting maybe 3 years max.

I'll post some real-life findings in 2-3 weeks after I made my office-furniture vendor tour (which of course are only open exactly during my working hours, not on weekends...), hopefully finding something there.
If anyone has some further suggestions on what to look for, or a tall person has personal experience with some chairs, I'd be very happy for your input!
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 19:02:31
February 18 2013 19:01 GMT
#147
On February 18 2013 21:04 ROOTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 20:57 TheNumberE wrote:
your gonna want a chair, with regards to health reasons, with a waterfall edge; adjustable arm rests and chair height, a back that suits the curvature of your spine and a place to rest your feet so they don't dangle.
another really cool alternative would be this nifty item
http://www.officechairadvice.com/images/assets/multi-balans-5-large.jpg


i would rather castrate myself

They're actually quite comfortable. Obviously not meant for 8 hour sitting sessions, but really no chair is. Don't need to make a stupid comment.
Refer to my post.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
February 18 2013 20:14 GMT
#148
I am looking forward to your findings FA_Viper!
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 00:39:57
February 19 2013 00:38 GMT
#149
So I read up on this thread and decided to stop by this office liquidator store.

Got me a haworth zody for $212 with tax ^^. Recommend for people who have one nearby.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
February 19 2013 01:20 GMT
#150
On February 19 2013 09:38 MassHysteria wrote:
So I read up on this thread and decided to stop by this office liquidator store.

Got me a haworth zody for $212 with tax ^^. Recommend for people who have one nearby.


That's a great deal man! Congrats.
Do you have time to tell a little about how it is to sit in it etc.?
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
February 19 2013 03:26 GMT
#151
No, I just wanted to show-off and feel good about myself really quick :p

Just set it up and will play with/try it out some more right now and let u know in a bit. But so far, the lumbar/back support is nice. Haven't even messed with the settings much though.. They had about 12 Areons in there and they were definitely nice. These compare pretty well if anyone is trying to not spend so much. Some Eurotech Ergonomic chair they had their was the prob the nicest chair I tried out, if anyone knows what I am talking about (b/c i don't remember details).
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
February 19 2013 13:58 GMT
#152
On February 19 2013 12:26 MassHysteria wrote:
No, I just wanted to show-off and feel good about myself really quick :p

Just set it up and will play with/try it out some more right now and let u know in a bit. But so far, the lumbar/back support is nice. Haven't even messed with the settings much though.. They had about 12 Areons in there and they were definitely nice. These compare pretty well if anyone is trying to not spend so much. Some Eurotech Ergonomic chair they had their was the prob the nicest chair I tried out, if anyone knows what I am talking about (b/c i don't remember details).


Ok Nice
Looking forward to your review!
I'll look up on the Eurotech thingie. Did you try aeron by the way? How did it feel compared to the others?
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 14:01:13
February 19 2013 14:01 GMT
#153
Just googled it. First hit: Amazon "EUROTECH Ergohuman"
Eurotech is Ergohuman. They are the ones I am looking at. But I am not going to take a fast decision. I want as much info about other chairs as possible to I can make sure I invest correctly.
(I am doing 1 hour shifts of sitting correctly as we speak)
Decided to work on my posture. I realized this after I started studying medicine.
My posture is really bad - from studying and gaming basically.
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 22:37:12
February 19 2013 22:18 GMT
#154
Ya, I hurt my rotator cuff and got a TMJ issue about 2 years ago (still recovering somewhat) and increased my importance on posture from that point on so def support you on that.

After some further trying-out of the Zody, it is a damn comfortable chair. Can't compare too much to the Aeron because I didn't inspect/test the Aeron that/too much overthere, it was just extremely comfortable to sit in -Muscle ecstacy-. I only tried the size A (I believe) though I did see the B and C, though they looked like they would be too big for me (5'9).

At work I have been using a Highmark for the last year or so ( which are also nice btw) but I would prob take the Zody over it. The adjustable lumbar support (adjustable tension for left/right) is nice on the zody and something that the Highmark does not have (I think I use the Kadet, not the Bolero so it might be different on that model). The actual Zody I bought does not have 4-d handles which is pretty sick after looking at it online. It also does not have the back-stop lever or the forward-tilt lever, just the back-tension one to control how much pressure to tilt back. I would recommend all those things if you are looking to purchase one, it would make it a lot better.

As for posture, these chair really prevent slouching from what I can tell. I can see why they are recommended by the American Physical Therapy Association. The only thing that I really wish I had was the forward-tilt for intense work when you want to get up close.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
February 19 2013 22:37 GMT
#155
On February 20 2013 07:18 MassHysteria wrote:
Ya, I hurt my rotator cuff and got a TMJ issue about 2 years ago (still recovering somewhat) and increased my importance on posture from that point on so def support you on that.

After some further trying-out of the Zody, it is a damn comfortable chair. Can't compare too much to the Aeron because I didn't inspect/test the Aeron that/too much overthere, it was just extremely comfortable to sit in -Muscle ecstacy-. I only tried the size A (I believe) though I did see the B and C, though they looked like they would be too big for me (5'9).

At work I have been using a Highmark for the last year or so ( which are also nice btw) but I would prob take the Zody over it. The adjustable lumbar support (adjustable tension for left/right) is nice on the zody and something that the Highmark does not have (I think I use the Kadet, not the Bolero so it might be different on that model). The actual Zody I bought does not have 4-d handles which is pretty sick after looking. It also does not have the back-stop lever or the tilt-forward lever, just the back-tension one to control how much pressure to tilt back. I would recommend all those things if you are looking to purchase one, it would make it a lot better.

As for posture, these chair really prevent slouching from what I can tell. I can see why they are recommended by the American Physical Therapy Association. The only thing that I really wish I had was the tilt-forward for intense work when you want to get up close.


Nice! Thank you!
Can you talk a little more about how it helps against slouching? This is my main problem regarding my posture.
I think I will call some companies and tell them my measures so they can find the exact model (hopefully not just the most expensive one) for me.
Celeritas
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia52 Posts
February 25 2013 06:51 GMT
#156
Hey guys, my Ergohuman V1 arrived today! So far, it's a huge improvement over the generic $60 office chair I had before. I'll post a more comprehensive review once I've had a day or two to get used to it. I know there are a few people considering purchasing this chair, so let me know what things you want me to focus on.
ktffang
Profile Joined July 2009
United States120 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-25 09:41:31
February 25 2013 09:35 GMT
#157
Of course an ergohuman is gonna be a huge improvement over the generic $60 chairs! The name is also Raynor heh

Is there a reason to get the v2 over the v1? I was about to get an Ikea Markus. Glad I saw this thread.

EDIT: just watched the video on their site and the v1 seems a lot better. the only thing a v2 has is a sleaker bottom base heh



btw, there is also this...

http://www.amazon.com/LexMod-Future-Office-Chair-Headrest/dp/B007VLX5XU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1361782764&sr=8-1&keywords=lexmod future

reviewed here:
http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2010/12/review-future-chair-offers-premium-experience-for-less-than-a-mortgage-payment/
7 times dowm, 8 times up
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-25 09:49:31
February 25 2013 09:47 GMT
#158
On February 18 2013 21:04 ROOTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 20:57 TheNumberE wrote:
your gonna want a chair, with regards to health reasons, with a waterfall edge; adjustable arm rests and chair height, a back that suits the curvature of your spine and a place to rest your feet so they don't dangle.
another really cool alternative would be this nifty item
http://www.officechairadvice.com/images/assets/multi-balans-5-large.jpg


i would rather castrate myself


My doctor uses this chair in his office. More comfortable than it looks as the pressure is evenly spread out rather than the standard chair which just presses your butt to a pulp if you sit there for 8 hours+ a day.

Too bad these things cost a small fortune.
ktffang
Profile Joined July 2009
United States120 Posts
February 25 2013 15:13 GMT
#159
damn. theres some used aeron chairs on my local craiglists going for the $400 range. would those be better than an ergohuman?

How do you know what size you need?
7 times dowm, 8 times up
NervO
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Netherlands511 Posts
February 25 2013 16:44 GMT
#160
Pretty sick chairs and there is a nice girl included!
Currently working with Team Acer CSGO | @AcerNervO
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