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I would like to know any tips on increasing your stream quality on sc2. I'm looking to see how I can have the stream quality really good. For example, destinys stream is outrageously amazing on quality. I have everything updated and my xsplit too.
My computer specs are,
-Windows 7 64bit
-Intel i5 750
-4GB Ram
-GeForce GTS 250
My internet speed is around 40+gb download and 20+gb upload.
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1465043407.png
Here is one of the stream I tested today on the quality,
http://www.twitch.tv/goodseed/b/294184426
I used 1920x1080 resolution , and 30fps on that tested video.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Prf5i.png)
Also, I feel like the sound coming out of the stream is very low compared to other streamers, I have to put the volume on the maximum bar to hear very good.
I mean my stream quality is pretty fine but I would like it to be more high quality.
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Turn off window aero. Start -> Control Panel -> Appearence and Personalization -> and choose windows 7 classic or windows classic, this will take strain off your GPU and will help with performance IG.
From looking @ the stream I can tell you it is very crisp, your lucky to have good internets ^_^. As for the bitrate, very few will actually be able to watch you live without lagging. 10k kbps bitrate is really High. Remember Destiny uses FME *Flash Media Encoder 2.5 i think* to stream, but that requires alot more CPU usage. I'm certainly not sure how you would increase the stream quality anymore than it already is :S. The only thing I can think of is for you to switch to FME and try it out and see if you like the quality more.
For the sound are you using a USB mic or are you using an analog mic / headset and if so are you using stereo mix? If your using stereo mix go into your sound devices most likely Realtek HD audio manager, and make sure the stereo mix option is turned up all the way.
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To be honest I really dont like XSplit anymore it seems to have issues with bit rate. Not sure if it does it intentionally but I noticed on one of your vids you were uploading @ 400kps which is really low with your connection. Go ahead and try FME sure you'll get better results
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Is there any guide on using FME in a sufficient way? and what should I set the bitrate as so most of people can watch the stream without any lag?
Also, I'm using a separate Logitech mic and a separate headphone (HD555).
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Destiny has a guide to FMLE here.
As for the bitrate you should probably have it at at least 3k or higher for 1080p, but keep in mind the higher bitrate you output the higher bitrate will be required to watch your stream in high quality.
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a) You got your sound set to mono - change it to stereo for better quality.
b) Lower your bitrate to 4000 (keep the buffer at x2 the bitrate!). Edit: Everyone needs to remember that the bitrate set is *not* exactly equal to what the end users receive - it's just a number to roughly set what amount of bandwidth XSplit can use. Please also do remember that if you're a partner, the end user will be able to lower the resolution through the player.
c) You have excellent stream quality already. For even better quality change the "preset" to something with "slow/slower" in it. But since your cpu is an i5 750 I'm rather convinced you don't have enough processing power to do 1080 (unless you're OC'ing). Please do try it and report back 
For a guide on FME, search for the one Destiny made.
@Nachielous
The momentarily low bitrate is streaming working as intended. Works the same way in FME. Basically you don't need to send the entire screen in each frame, only the changes from the last one. The bitrate will vary because of that.
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Thanks for all the help guys, I will try the guide by Destiny and report on the result.
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It is not your computer or anything. It is xSplit having issues streaming larger then 1280x720. You should've gotten a warning when you applied the settings.
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On September 05 2011 03:09 Dakk wrote:
It is not your computer or anything. It is xSplit having issues streaming larger then 1280x720. You should've gotten a warning when you applied the settings.
XSplit definitely can stream in 1080p if you have the hardware. The warning is simply a warning, nothing more. Come on now. His CPU is ~2 years old.
@Goodseed
Did you try my tip above in bullet "c)"?
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I will try that now on slow with 4000bitrate and 8000 buffer and changing the audio to stereo.
And is OCing hard? I mean if I can do it, I will give it a try but im not amazing at computer stuff.
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On September 05 2011 04:38 Goodseed wrote:http://www.twitch.tv/goodseed/b/294264844Here is the video I tested, my cpu usage goes around 90% + but I have a quad core too does it matter? And does the sound quality on my stream sounds good to you?
The tips I gave for a+b were more of a detail, not relating to your quality though. But the audio sounds really great/excellent now ^^
Also remember FME requires (even more?) tweaking than XSplit, so you might not wanna give up just yet. Personally I use XSplit but have used both.
Yes, you got a quad core, but it's not the newest model around anymore. Streaming in 1080p is just about the most amount of stress you can put on your computer in terms of calculations, and you need something very powerful to keep up. I do not know much about OC'ing, so I strongly recommend asking JingleHell/Skyr/Myrmidon or the like about that (maybe in a new thread). They know what they talk about .
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On September 05 2011 04:38 Goodseed wrote:http://www.twitch.tv/goodseed/b/294264844Here is the video I tested, my cpu usage goes around 90% + but I have a quad core too does it matter? And does the sound quality on my stream sounds good to you?
I have the same CPU and you really cannot stream with high settings if you are not overclocking, might want to try that out, I have mine overclocked to 4 Ghz and it handles streaming very well.
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On September 05 2011 05:27 schreddertt wrote:
I have the same CPU and you really cannot stream with high settings if you are not overclocking[...]
Have you seen the VOD he posted in the OP? That is a fine 1080p (well 1050 actually) stream on non-OC'ed hardware.
He's aiming for even better quality and that's were you're right - he needs more power for that.
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On September 05 2011 04:21 HellGreen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 03:09 Dakk wrote:
It is not your computer or anything. It is xSplit having issues streaming larger then 1280x720. You should've gotten a warning when you applied the settings. XSplit definitely can stream in 1080p if you have the hardware. The warning is simply a warning, nothing more. Come on now. His CPU is ~2 years old. @Goodseed Did you try my tip above in bullet "c)"?
It's not a question about computer. It is a question about the software. The software claims to not have good support for resolutions bigger then 1280x720. Then there is the issue. Since he should be more then good to stream in that. I have a better PC and Connection and i cannot stream either in 1080p with xSplit.
i7 2600k @ 4ghz
5850
8gb ram
and a 100/100 connection. I am more then ready and i still cannot do it.
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On September 05 2011 16:23 Dakk wrote:
It is a question about the software. The software claims to not have good support for resolutions bigger then 1280x720. Then there is the issue. Since he should be more then good to stream in that. I have a better PC and Connection and i cannot stream either in 1080p with xSplit.
Then please explain to me how a lot of people including the OP (See the VOD in the OP!) are streaming fine in resolutions above 720p with XSplit? Just because you can't, doesn't mean everyone can't
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On September 06 2011 00:40 HellGreen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 16:23 Dakk wrote:
It is a question about the software. The software claims to not have good support for resolutions bigger then 1280x720. Then there is the issue. Since he should be more then good to stream in that. I have a better PC and Connection and i cannot stream either in 1080p with xSplit. Then please explain to me how a lot of people including the OP (See the VOD in the OP!) are streaming fine in resolutions above 720p with XSplit? Just because you can't, doesn't mean everyone can't
I'm just saying, it might be the issue, since the software itself gives a warning.
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On September 11 2011 04:10 Dakk wrote:
I'm just saying, it might be the issue, since the software itself gives a warning.
You're still neglecting that fact that he already streamed in 1050, so the software works for him.
Quote from the Beta 4 RC4 log:
Removed warning about > 1280 x 720 resolution for local recording
Only confirms my beliefs, that the reason is more so, to ease the average user experience of the application by ensuring people understand the needs of a 1080p stream. XSplit supports +720p fine if you have the internet/hardware to back it up. Look at TLO, IncontroL plus many more.
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When you said that if you put too much bitrate to stream, it will lag the viewers who are watching. What is a reasonable so that most of people who watch stream can view your stream smoothly? I've been streaming with 1500kbits but I would like to higher it but not sure if I should. Also, why do I have to put the buffer x2 my bitrate? Whenever I put a bitrate and click buffer, xsplit automatically puts it as the same amount for my bitrate.
Also, thanks for all the help so far.
Edit: Happy Birthday HellGreen!
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On September 12 2011 08:08 Goodseed wrote:
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When you said that if you put too much bitrate to stream, it will lag the viewers who are watching. What is a reasonable so that most of people who watch stream can view your stream smoothly? I've been streaming with 1500kbits but I would like to higher it but not sure if I should.
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Also, why do I have to put the buffer x2 my bitrate? Whenever I put a bitrate and click buffer, xsplit automatically puts it as the same amount for my bitrate.
Edit: Happy Birthday HellGreen!
At a)
That's almost impossible to answer.
I can't say what kind of download speed the average stream watcher have for sure, but at least in Denmark it's not uncommon to have at least 5 Mbit/s (often times more like 10-20 Mbit/s). There are some more stats here (http://speedtest.net/wave/b4320e6727ae88e5?a=i) and it varies from country to country. Personally I feel you should stream in the highest available mode, and if you're really popular make a partnership program with Twitch.tv so your users can select their prefered resolution in the player. In short, as download rates typically are much larger than upload, I wouldn't really worry too much about it.
At b)
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. This is a new behavior - it used to be double the buffer. Seems XSplit recommends the same buffer size as the stream bitrate now.
And thanks - yeah turning 35 today
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