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Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
September 07 2016 10:01 GMT
#11801
On September 07 2016 10:44 xeo1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2016 09:31 Cyro wrote:
Sort by avg cpu and leave it for 5 minutes.

I can't tell you why system and command are using ~8% but your antivirus is using 3.3%. Chrome is using a ton as well, 7% shown there but more is cut off.

That's not technically "idle" if you have webpages open that are eating CPU, virus scanning etc. For chrome i do reccomend installing blockers for adverts and scripts (so that you have to opt-into them), also setting flash player to only load when you tell it to play something. That can save a lot of CPU load there


http://imgur.com/a/8WL8u

This was after leaving it on for like 20 minutes. Looks like my BIOS isn't the latest version, could that be causing it?

Check out the tool named "Process Explorer" from here:

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/processexplorer.aspx

Use this to try to find out where this cmd.exe process comes from and what it's doing. To help with this, you can check out the command line of that process. You can find that somewhere in the Properties window that you can open through the right-click menu.

You can also enable a lower pane in the main window of that Process Explorer tool. It's one of the buttons in the main tool bar. In that lower pane, you will see what files are opened by the selected process. This might hint to what's going on.

What you'll do is try to google things you see on the command line of the process or the file names in the lower pane. The search results hopefully hint to what's the deal with this cmd.exe process.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
mantequilla
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Turkey779 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-08 11:53:36
September 08 2016 11:42 GMT
#11802
what do you think is the cheapest desktop cpu that can run sc2 2v2 okay? my 6 year old laptop with i7 720qm struggles

can I consider APU's ?
Age of Mythology forever!
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20321 Posts
September 08 2016 19:33 GMT
#11803
On September 08 2016 20:42 mantequilla wrote:
what do you think is the cheapest desktop cpu that can run sc2 2v2 okay? my 6 year old laptop with i7 720qm struggles

can I consider APU's ?


Yeah but maybe skylake dual core w/ integrated graphics would do better. iGPU can handle sc2 on low-med settings but intel's iGPU drivers are infamously bad
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
mantequilla
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Turkey779 Posts
September 08 2016 22:02 GMT
#11804
I tried one time with my i3 4160 integrated gpu and man it was bad Don't know if skylake is very different though

trying to put up a pc for a broke friend who only plays sc2 2v2 3v3
Age of Mythology forever!
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
September 08 2016 23:50 GMT
#11805
My experience with gaming on iGPU on anything more demanding than like... darkest dungeons / stardew valley is just... don't.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20321 Posts
September 09 2016 04:18 GMT
#11806
IIRC something like 1080p60 @ med settings worked even on Haswell. For low settings especially in 2v2 which will be heavier on the CPU than 1v1 i'd guess that the performance level is fine but i'm not comfortable with the intel drivers
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
mantequilla
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Turkey779 Posts
September 09 2016 07:43 GMT
#11807
it will probably below 1080p because, as I said broke

are amd apu's graphics noticeably stronger than intel?

very cheap dedicated gpu's become stronger than igpu's at some price point, there must be a sweet spot between cpu+gpu and apu prices. Since sc2 only uses 2 cores, I am looking to optimize price with 2-4 core apu and pentium+cheap gpu. Not much to look at besides passmark benchs I guess.
Age of Mythology forever!
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-09 21:35:12
September 09 2016 19:14 GMT
#11808
On September 07 2016 19:01 Ropid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2016 10:44 xeo1 wrote:
On September 07 2016 09:31 Cyro wrote:
Sort by avg cpu and leave it for 5 minutes.

I can't tell you why system and command are using ~8% but your antivirus is using 3.3%. Chrome is using a ton as well, 7% shown there but more is cut off.

That's not technically "idle" if you have webpages open that are eating CPU, virus scanning etc. For chrome i do reccomend installing blockers for adverts and scripts (so that you have to opt-into them), also setting flash player to only load when you tell it to play something. That can save a lot of CPU load there


http://imgur.com/a/8WL8u

This was after leaving it on for like 20 minutes. Looks like my BIOS isn't the latest version, could that be causing it?

Check out the tool named "Process Explorer" from here:

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/processexplorer.aspx

Use this to try to find out where this cmd.exe process comes from and what it's doing. To help with this, you can check out the command line of that process. You can find that somewhere in the Properties window that you can open through the right-click menu.

You can also enable a lower pane in the main window of that Process Explorer tool. It's one of the buttons in the main tool bar. In that lower pane, you will see what files are opened by the selected process. This might hint to what's going on.

What you'll do is try to google things you see on the command line of the process or the file names in the lower pane. The search results hopefully hint to what's the deal with this cmd.exe process.


Right underneath the cmd.exe in Process Explorer these keep popping in and out: bump.exe, reg.exe, find.exe, cmd.exe, crc32.exe, icacls.exe. And at the top of this tree is hale.exe. By the way I use a cracked windows 7 (chew7). Could that be the cause?

EDIT: I used file.net to look up those files, and there it was advised to use Reimage to clean my pc. I did an analysis, and it found 2 trojans (crypt.cid and pua.opencandy), however to remove them would cost $40. I have scanned my PC with bitdefender and malwarebytes but they both seemed to miss the trojans.

EDIT2: I terminated hale.exe and cmd.exe in Process Explorer and CPU usage went under 5%. I suspect since I used the chew7 windows activator, it was running constantly in the background as hale.exe. Your suggestion helped a lot, thanks.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-09 22:58:07
September 09 2016 22:56 GMT
#11809
Treat anything that says "it'll cost $ to remove" as a scam. Those "run this to fix everything" programs will frequently delete files that shouldn't be deleted at all or flag innocuous files as malware (or even totally make up finds).

Use something like MalwareBytes to scan and remove malware.

There definitely could be malware embedded in your cracked windows. Note that killing the process might work for this session, but it will come back when you reboot (and potentially at other times as well, depending on what else is running that can launch it).
twitch.tv/cratonz
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
September 10 2016 00:02 GMT
#11810
On September 10 2016 07:56 Craton wrote:
Treat anything that says "it'll cost $ to remove" as a scam. Those "run this to fix everything" programs will frequently delete files that shouldn't be deleted at all or flag innocuous files as malware (or even totally make up finds).

Use something like MalwareBytes to scan and remove malware.

There definitely could be malware embedded in your cracked windows. Note that killing the process might work for this session, but it will come back when you reboot (and potentially at other times as well, depending on what else is running that can launch it).


So your suggestion is to get an official copy?
raypp1980
Profile Joined September 2016
10 Posts
September 10 2016 00:23 GMT
#11811
--- Nuked ---
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 10 2016 05:10 GMT
#11812
On September 10 2016 09:02 xeo1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 07:56 Craton wrote:
Treat anything that says "it'll cost $ to remove" as a scam. Those "run this to fix everything" programs will frequently delete files that shouldn't be deleted at all or flag innocuous files as malware (or even totally make up finds).

Use something like MalwareBytes to scan and remove malware.

There definitely could be malware embedded in your cracked windows. Note that killing the process might work for this session, but it will come back when you reboot (and potentially at other times as well, depending on what else is running that can launch it).


So your suggestion is to get an official copy?


My suggestion would be to use something by the name of Daz but I cannot condone or support this.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5296 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-10 05:42:30
September 10 2016 05:41 GMT
#11813
hi, i wanted to try a portable Opera browser so i got + Show Spoiler +
About Opera
Version information
Version 12.18
Build 1873
Platform x64
System Windows 7
Browser identification Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64) Presto/2.12.388 Version/12.18
which i think is the latest version.
-i have both npapi and ppapi flash installed.
-the browser is fresh, no addons, extensions(except flash player).

the problem: i can watch twitch streams on TL(for ex: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/GSL works fine) but i can't watch them on twitchtv(nothing with twitchtv in the address bar works).

is there something special i need to do in Opera to watch twitch.tv?
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-10 06:06:46
September 10 2016 06:05 GMT
#11814
On September 10 2016 14:41 xM(Z wrote:
hi, i wanted to try a portable Opera browser so i got + Show Spoiler +
About Opera
Version information
Version 12.18
Build 1873
Platform x64
System Windows 7
Browser identification Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64) Presto/2.12.388 Version/12.18
which i think is the latest version.
-i have both npapi and ppapi flash installed.
-the browser is fresh, no addons, extensions(except flash player).

the problem: i can watch twitch streams on TL(for ex: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/GSL works fine) but i can't watch them on twitchtv(nothing with twitchtv in the address bar works).

is there something special i need to do in Opera to watch twitch.tv?


I have my flash player blocked (or require turning on) and I can view both links correctly in Iron without doing so - they are running in HTML5.

Click the gear in the bottom right of the twitch stream and turn on "HTML5 player" would be my suggestion.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5296 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-10 06:45:00
September 10 2016 06:42 GMT
#11815
On September 10 2016 15:05 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 14:41 xM(Z wrote:
hi, i wanted to try a portable Opera browser so i got + Show Spoiler +
About Opera
Version information
Version 12.18
Build 1873
Platform x64
System Windows 7
Browser identification Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64) Presto/2.12.388 Version/12.18
which i think is the latest version.
-i have both npapi and ppapi flash installed.
-the browser is fresh, no addons, extensions(except flash player).

the problem: i can watch twitch streams on TL(for ex: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/GSL works fine) but i can't watch them on twitchtv(nothing with twitchtv in the address bar works).

is there something special i need to do in Opera to watch twitch.tv?


I have my flash player blocked (or require turning on) and I can view both links correctly in Iron without doing so - they are running in HTML5.

Click the gear in the bottom right of the twitch stream and turn on "HTML5 player" would be my suggestion.

there was no option to force html5 player by clicking the gear, but i looked for related workarounds and i found how to "force" html5 via the address bar.
if i use https://player.twitch.tv/?channel=CHANNELNAME&html5 and replace CHANNELNAME with the needed channel, it works fine.

ty for suggestion.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23460 Posts
September 21 2016 19:50 GMT
#11816
Need to replace the fan on my Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO, I'm a bit confused looking online what my options are. I found the standard replacement, but it seems to have noise issues (plus sleeve bearings), I wanted to know what other options I may have and what I need to do to get them to connect to the cooler?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
September 22 2016 00:00 GMT
#11817
You can basically get any 120mm sized "PWM" fan as a replacement.

The "120mm" is about how the mounting holes are positioned. The fan should be 25mm thick (there's thicker and thinner alternatives that are a bit obscure, but actually should work as well with the mounting system of the cooler).

The "PWM" is about the fan's motor and its connector for the motherboard. It will be a four-pin connector as opposed to three-pin. The fourth pin is where the fan will receive a speed control signal from the board.

Perhaps first take a good look at the cooler how it is right now. See how you remove the current fan from the cooler. When you have the thing in your hand, you'll notice that there's a mounting bracket thingy screwed onto the fan. You'll be able to move this to your new fan.

About examples at what fans to look at, I have no idea. Something cheap that might be safe with regards to strange, annoying noise would perhaps be Arctic F12 PWM. That's a fan that has lower top speed than what was originally on the cooler. It will probably still be strong enough, but you might want to take a look at the board's BIOS options and choose a more aggressive fan control profile for the CPU fan.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-22 02:13:20
September 22 2016 02:13 GMT
#11818
On September 22 2016 09:00 Ropid wrote:
You can basically get any 120mm sized "PWM" fan as a replacement.

The "120mm" is about how the mounting holes are positioned. The fan should be 25mm thick (there's thicker and thinner alternatives that are a bit obscure, but actually should work as well with the mounting system of the cooler).

The "PWM" is about the fan's motor and its connector for the motherboard. It will be a four-pin connector as opposed to three-pin. The fourth pin is where the fan will receive a speed control signal from the board.

Perhaps first take a good look at the cooler how it is right now. See how you remove the current fan from the cooler. When you have the thing in your hand, you'll notice that there's a mounting bracket thingy screwed onto the fan. You'll be able to move this to your new fan.

About examples at what fans to look at, I have no idea. Something cheap that might be safe with regards to strange, annoying noise would perhaps be Arctic F12 PWM. That's a fan that has lower top speed than what was originally on the cooler. It will probably still be strong enough, but you might want to take a look at the board's BIOS options and choose a more aggressive fan control profile for the CPU fan.


Sweet thanks, Pretty confident the fan is shot, but I do think it was just cranked all the time previously so I'l be more mindful of it's speed. I don't OC much and never had temp issues so I just wanted to make sure whatever I ordered would fit and function. Sounds like I've got enough info to make sure I get the right piece.

Also wasn't sure if the fans needed something special to jive with the part that connected it to the cooler or if it was something standard across a few fans within certain specs.

Thanks again for the help.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
WonnaPlay
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands912 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-22 17:59:58
September 22 2016 17:58 GMT
#11819
On September 10 2016 09:02 xeo1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 07:56 Craton wrote:
Treat anything that says "it'll cost $ to remove" as a scam. Those "run this to fix everything" programs will frequently delete files that shouldn't be deleted at all or flag innocuous files as malware (or even totally make up finds).

Use something like MalwareBytes to scan and remove malware.

There definitely could be malware embedded in your cracked windows. Note that killing the process might work for this session, but it will come back when you reboot (and potentially at other times as well, depending on what else is running that can launch it).


So your suggestion is to get an official copy?


hale5.exe is most likely malicious. cmd.exe is the command line for windows, which probably shouldn't run automatically, unless you yourself have set it so.

Cracked windows versions are 90% full of malware,virusses nowadays or may even make you part of a botnet (I suspect hale5.exe of this activity, but since I can't investigate your PC myself it's a guess).

There is also a possibility that these same malware will mess with the results on malware scanners.

Normal malware etc. needs to "gain" permissions on your computer before they can execute, they will also need to circumvent things like active virus scanners, windows firewall and malware scanners. This makes it hard for the malware and easier for the scanners.

OS malware doesn't need to "gain" permissions, because it can install itself way before any defense mechanisms are activated or installed.

Easiest and best way is to just get a legal copy of Windows to save yourself alot of trouble.
The hard way is finding everything that may have been installed and remove it.
You will need programs like Wireshark and Security Task Manager to be able to do this, and you will need to know how to read these programs. If you really want to become clean on your current setup, this will probably take effort and commitment.

Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18114 Posts
September 23 2016 16:36 GMT
#11820
I'm considering buying the following notebook. I don't really want to play high end graphical games (FPS), but I might be interested in Star Citizen, if it is ever released, and I might want to catch up on Witcher 3 (played 1 and 2, but never got going on 3). Those are probably the most graphics intensive games I can think of wanting to play. I also don't want to spend too much money. I saw the following at the mediamarkt:

Acer Aspire F5-573G
CPU: i7-6500U
RAM: 8GB RAM
Disk: 128 SSD+1TB
GPU: GTX 950M 4GB

at the top range of what I'm willing to spend. Would this suit my purposes? Can I get away with spending less? What should I save on?

PS. I refuse to buy Lenovo. They fucked me over on a warranty claim, and I won't touch their products again on general principle, so while I have found a few notebooks of theirs that look interesting, I won't ever buy them.
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