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Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
April 03 2013 19:18 GMT
#5981
You could try memtest86 (http://www.memtest86.com/). It has installation programs to put it on a USB stick or burn a CD, then you'll have to boot from that. It definitely often finds errors the Windows version does not find.

Before you do that, try this software: http://www.resplendence.com/whocrashed/

You have to click somewhere and it'll read Windows logs about your latest BSOD and tell you something about which driver was the cause in the report it generates.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
sinfinite
Profile Joined November 2010
United States32 Posts
April 03 2013 19:35 GMT
#5982
On April 04 2013 04:18 Ropid wrote:
You could try memtest86 (http://www.memtest86.com/). It has installation programs to put it on a USB stick or burn a CD, then you'll have to boot from that. It definitely often finds errors the Windows version does not find.

Before you do that, try this software: http://www.resplendence.com/whocrashed/

You have to click somewhere and it'll read Windows logs about your latest BSOD and tell you something about which driver was the cause in the report it generates.


I'm running memtest right now and will run the other after if no problems are found.
TelperionKaadu
Profile Joined May 2011
United States3 Posts
April 03 2013 19:59 GMT
#5983
My computer puts a very noticeable white noise. I am pretty sure it is from the computer and not my speakers/headphones. Would getting a soundcard for my desktop fix this? If not what is the best fix?
For the Swarm!
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
April 03 2013 21:06 GMT
#5984
Do you mean white noise in your headphones? If you already put them on when the PC is off, there is no noise? It starts up at some point in the boot process? This problem can be fixed if your current Windows volume control is set to something very low, something like 10 % for example. If it is over 30 % at the moment, you'll have to get a sound card.

The white noise on the audio cable stays constant no matter what you do on the Windows volume control. This means, if you turn the Windows volume up, the white noise does not get louder. The volume control on your speakers or your headphone cable does not behave like that. If you turn the volume adjustment on the headphones down, you will dampen the white noise.

So if you currently have 10 % volume in Windows and put that to 100 %, and then use the knob on your speakers to get the same volume as before, you will have reduced the white noise ten-fold and won't be able to hear it anymore.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
April 03 2013 21:33 GMT
#5985
On April 03 2013 20:59 Blaec wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 19:54 GolemMadness wrote:
I'm looking to buy a new computer. Basically I just want to play LoL/Starcraft 2, do stuff on the internet and watch movies. How are the prices at http://genericcomputer.com/c-54-System_Package.html ?


They are all really terrible. Learn to build a computer yourself (its really easy, just lego with more expensive parts) or find another company that makes decent premades.


What would the price difference be on a decent one if I were to make it myself compared to something like those?
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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
April 03 2013 21:52 GMT
#5986
On April 04 2013 06:33 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 20:59 Blaec wrote:
On April 03 2013 19:54 GolemMadness wrote:
I'm looking to buy a new computer. Basically I just want to play LoL/Starcraft 2, do stuff on the internet and watch movies. How are the prices at http://genericcomputer.com/c-54-System_Package.html ?


They are all really terrible. Learn to build a computer yourself (its really easy, just lego with more expensive parts) or find another company that makes decent premades.


What would the price difference be on a decent one if I were to make it myself compared to something like those?

It's mostly that the configurations don't make sense for what you're wanting to do, so you'd be paying way extra for stuff you don't need. They're only say 10% or so over the cost of parts (for somebody like you or me buying single-unit quantities).
URfavHO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States514 Posts
April 03 2013 22:11 GMT
#5987
While playing sc2 my computer begins to stutter and my mouse looses sensitivity momentarily when I shift-click or control-click rapidly, do any of you have any intuitions as to why this might be happening?
pestilenz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Denmark379 Posts
April 04 2013 01:59 GMT
#5988
I don't get commercials.... Once typed in a firewall rule into my cmd (this to be precise:http://mitchribar.com/2013/02/how-to-stop-youtube-sucking-windows-guide/) which made all adds from twitch disappear. Tried to remove it, but opening cmd normally it says i need to open as admin, and when I open as admin it says the rule cannot be detected lol... So no commercials for me, what to do? Would like to support the streamers I like.
You can attack with this?!
Pwnzer
Profile Joined June 2011
United States617 Posts
April 04 2013 02:21 GMT
#5989
My alt tab stops working for some reason now when I open up SC2. It's always worked just fine and my settings haven't changed, I still have it set to fullscreen windowed. Once I actually put in my password to log in I'm unable to alt tab out to my other screens. Anyone have any suggestions?
Herp Derp
sinfinite
Profile Joined November 2010
United States32 Posts
April 04 2013 02:45 GMT
#5990
+ Show Spoiler +

On April 04 2013 04:08 sinfinite wrote:
I was wondering if anyone could help me take a look at my BSOD .dmp and see if it was hardware or software related - I just upgraded my graphics card about a week ago, and this was the first BSOD I got. I am on the beta drivers (to fix another problem) from Radeon, so I'm not sure if that would do anything.

MOBO: + Show Spoiler +
http://www.amazon.com/DX58SO2-Desktop-Motherboard-Intel-Chipset/dp/B004IPNTO2/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1365016049&sr=1-1&keywords=dx58so2

CPU: i7 990x + Show Spoiler +
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i7-990X-Extreme-Processor/dp/B004NRQDQQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1365016021&sr=1-1&keywords=990x

GPU: MSI HD 7870 + Show Spoiler +
http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Express-Graphics-R7870-2GD5T-OC/dp/B00BANKXFI/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1365015994&sr=1-2&keywords=msi+7870

RAM: 4x4GB Kingston + Show Spoiler +
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Technology-Modules-KHX1600C9D3K4-16GX/dp/B0033BTACM


The BSOD was labeled "Memory Management"
I've checked my memory through windows memory diagnostics and there were no problems found.
+ Show Spoiler +
MEMORY_MANAGEMENT (1a)
# Any other values for parameter 1 must be individually examined.
Arguments:
Arg1: 0000000000041201, The subtype of the bugcheck.
Arg2: fffff680007770b0
Arg3: d8600081d5e15867
Arg4: fffffa800ce18cb0

Debugging Details:
------------------



BUGCHECK_STR: 0x1a_41201

CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT: 1

DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: WIN7_DRIVER_FAULT

PROCESS_NAME: dota.exe

CURRENT_IRQL: 0

LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from fffff800030e7abe to fffff8000308bc40

STACK_TEXT:
fffff880`0388e9b8 fffff800`030e7abe : 00000000`0000001a 00000000`00041201 fffff680`007770b0 d8600081`d5e15867 : nt!KeBugCheckEx
fffff880`0388e9c0 fffff800`03056b91 : fffff880`0388ea10 fffff800`033aac9e 00000000`00000000 d8600081`d5e15867 : nt! ?? ::FNODOBFM::`string'+0x13702
fffff880`0388ea00 fffff800`0305682a : fffffa80`0ce18cb0 fffffa80`11939b30 fffffa80`11939b30 00000000`eee16000 : nt!MiQueryAddressState+0x2b1
fffff880`0388ea50 fffff800`03368c74 : fffff880`00000004 00000000`eee17000 fffffa80`0ce18cb0 fffff800`0308ed9f : nt!MiQueryAddressSpan+0xaa
fffff880`0388eac0 fffff800`0308aed3 : ffffffff`ffffffff fffffa80`0f965b50 00000000`73fd2450 00000000`0025df38 : nt!NtQueryVirtualMemory+0x382
fffff880`0388ebb0 00000000`778d154a : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!KiSystemServiceCopyEnd+0x13
00000000`0025df18 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : 0x778d154a


STACK_COMMAND: kb

FOLLOWUP_IP:
nt! ?? ::FNODOBFM::`string'+13702
fffff800`030e7abe cc int 3

SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX: 1

SYMBOL_NAME: nt! ?? ::FNODOBFM::`string'+13702

FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner

MODULE_NAME: nt

IMAGE_NAME: ntkrnlmp.exe

DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 50e79935

FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: X64_0x1a_41201_nt!_??_::FNODOBFM::_string_+13702

BUCKET_ID: X64_0x1a_41201_nt!_??_::FNODOBFM::_string_+13702

Followup: MachineOwner




In regards to my BSOD, I ran memtest, nothing came up and the whocrashed couldn't determine the drivers involved. I don't know if I should return my graphics card or downgrade drivers. Still not sure whether it's software or hardware related.
Mysticesper
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1183 Posts
April 04 2013 03:22 GMT
#5991
Sometimes with memtest, you need to do 1 stick at a time, or just let it run overnight.

At least in my laptop with similar problems, memtest didn't discover a problem till the second time I ran it, and even then, it was on the second cycle through.

I still technically need to run it again with only the "suspected" stick, which was in the 18gb range, so hopefully it's just the ram in slot 3
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
April 04 2013 03:49 GMT
#5992
How often is artifacting not the result of faulty hardware? I get (mostly) minor artifacts in multiple games and I've tried three different versions of the drivers with basically no effect.

I'm pretty sure I'm gonna have to RMA it (it's 2.5 months old from ASUS).
twitch.tv/cratonz
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
April 04 2013 03:51 GMT
#5993
Did you underclock/overvolt GPU to try and get rid of it?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
April 04 2013 03:52 GMT
#5994
No, it's running at stock.

What should I try?
twitch.tv/cratonz
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
April 04 2013 03:55 GMT
#5995
You can drop clock speeds in MSI Afterburner or something and see if it still artifacts

Downclock your GPU, see if that 'fixes' the issue. If that doesn't, raise the voltage to the max (in the software, of course, which is limited so as to prevent you from raising it to anything substantial), downclock even, see if it reduces the artifacts at all. Basically if downclocking or overvolting reduces the artifacting, that's a sign of the GPU.

You first need to see where exactly the issue is, artifacts is just a manifestation of instability, and instability can come from anything. Artifacting is generally the GPU but you can never 100% attach a particular manifestation of instability to a particular cause every time (although artifacting is pretty much always gpu...).

If it's within 30 days you'd go with the seller, not manufacturer. Manufacturer is basically last resort (just generally resellers have only a 30 day return policy).

Could also be the power supply. But one thing at a time.


Belial suggested overvolting but that might not be covered in warranty etc. I can't see somebody voiding warranty because you underclocked a gpu though
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 04:49:27
April 04 2013 04:44 GMT
#5996
I tried underclocking down as far as 900 (didn't help), but I'm not sure how far I can overvolt safely (7970).
twitch.tv/cratonz
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
April 04 2013 05:09 GMT
#5997
If you get it to work perfectly through higher voltage than normal, I still wouldn't want to keep that particular graphics card and rather get a replacement. I wouldn't try to increase voltage much. It would only be interesting to know for sure that the graphics card is broken in that way, and you'd still have to RMA it anyways.

You could try a different slot on your motherboard to see if it's perhaps the motherboard and graphics card having problems only in its current slot.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
April 04 2013 05:12 GMT
#5998
Aren't graphics cards always supposed to go in the primary slot first?

In any event, does ASUS have a convenient way to start an RMA online? It seems like you either fill out a help ticket for 'advice fixing the problem' with every detail about your hardware (down to serials on RAM) or you call them?
twitch.tv/cratonz
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
April 04 2013 05:20 GMT
#5999
Aren't graphics cards always supposed to go in the primary slot first?


They're also supposed to work, and you probably have a second slot that would not have significantly lower performance due to pcie bandwidth
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
waffling1
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
599 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 08:48:27
April 04 2013 08:47 GMT
#6000
Will my windows start having problems if i allow windows to install updates?

I bought a new Mobo and CPU. My windows 7 on my hard drive is still running and functional.
Some settings got changed, and the action center has no updates.
It now tells me I need to install a "windows update software" in order to enable checking for automatic updates.
I had bought an OEM windows 7 license.

If I allow my windows to install this "windows update software", will it detect that I have a new machine and then cause problems, like not letting me run windows any longer, or continually have a warning that it's not genuine or start blocking programs?

I'm not sure if my windows was "attached" to my mobo, or my hard drive.
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