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Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
April 02 2013 10:04 GMT
#5941
On April 02 2013 18:28 thezanursic wrote:
Some keyboards have Z and Y keys switched so I am curious if it registers different keys when playing BW if I use different keyboards because reaching Z on certain keyboards would be next to impossible and painful with my current hotkey setup in BW.

Thanks!


Yes, normally keys register in the same way they are printed. What you can do is swap to a different keyboard layout in Windows. The most common "United States International" layout has the Y next to the T (it's also called the QWERTY layout). The alternative QWERTZ layout is used often in Germany and Eastern Europe. As long as you keep your keyboard layout in Windows the same, the keys will respond the same. But if you switch between a QWERTZ and a QWERTY keyboard, make sure that the Windows-layout doesn't automatically switch as well.
Such flammable little insects!
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 10:17:01
April 02 2013 10:16 GMT
#5942
Another update... sc2 appears to only be using 1 core half the time o.O
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20312 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 11:02:48
April 02 2013 10:56 GMT
#5943
On April 02 2013 19:16 EtherealDeath wrote:
Another update... sc2 appears to only be using 1 core half the time o.O

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This is normal operation.

My GPU is staying below 30% utilization in 1v1 and my CPU below 60% (on the cores relevant to SC2) yet my framerate drops to the 30s.


Simply does not require that much GPU power to max the game at 100fps or whatever - so your GPU is around 30% load at that framerate (as i said i think, i've seen 150fps maxed on a gpu a quarter as powerful - which put it at 99% load at the very start of game)

And CPU, as shown in graph, your usage will only read about 30-40% for normal sc2 play on a quad core. You have one core almost maxed, some load on a second core, very very little on other cores.

Your framerates are just flat out weird though, i mean 110fps cutting to 50fps for 5-10 seconds then jumping back to 110? I would expect 150-250 at the start of game with game maxed and it should take at the very least a battle with >~200 supply on the map (100 per player) with maxed physics and effects to pull you below 60.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5489 Posts
April 02 2013 11:32 GMT
#5944
On April 02 2013 19:04 Rannasha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 18:28 thezanursic wrote:
Some keyboards have Z and Y keys switched so I am curious if it registers different keys when playing BW if I use different keyboards because reaching Z on certain keyboards would be next to impossible and painful with my current hotkey setup in BW.

Thanks!


Yes, normally keys register in the same way they are printed. What you can do is swap to a different keyboard layout in Windows. The most common "United States International" layout has the Y next to the T (it's also called the QWERTY layout). The alternative QWERTZ layout is used often in Germany and Eastern Europe. As long as you keep your keyboard layout in Windows the same, the keys will respond the same. But if you switch between a QWERTZ and a QWERTY keyboard, make sure that the Windows-layout doesn't automatically switch as well.

Okay so basically I shouldnt worry about the keyboard and just make sure that I set it up properly thanks!
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Aianaros
Profile Joined March 2013
4 Posts
April 02 2013 12:02 GMT
#5945
Hello,
I am here to ask for some help becouse all the searching i have made has not solved anything still. When I try to see some streams on twitch tv it gives me the "twitch is for gaming only" message and then it tells me that I have been banned fromt he site. But this is ridiculous for 2 reasons:
1- I have never had an account
2- It let me see certain streams in certain hours of the day.
Right now I am watching TLO but I cant watch Snute. I can watch Stephano but not the vods in his channel. Since I am banned I can't register to twitch to contact them. Does anyone know how to contatc twitch tv for this problem or how to solve it?
I'm sorry for the english and I dont know if this si the right place to put this question. Apologize if I did anything the wrong way =(
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
April 02 2013 18:14 GMT
#5946
I feel like an idiot and while I know the answer is a simple google search away I don't know the correct term to google.

For some reason I woke up this morning the bar at the bottom of the screen no longer shows the time and icons for commonly used programs. If I minimize a window it does not show up on the (task bar?) what do I need to do in order for them to show up again?
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 02 2013 18:16 GMT
#5947
On April 03 2013 03:14 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I feel like an idiot and while I know the answer is a simple google search away I don't know the correct term to google.

For some reason I woke up this morning the bar at the bottom of the screen no longer shows the time and icons for commonly used programs. If I minimize a window it does not show up on the (task bar?) what do I need to do in order for them to show up again?


Right click on it, go to properties, and from there you can customize how icons appear.
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 18:27:03
April 02 2013 18:26 GMT
#5948
On April 03 2013 03:16 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 03:14 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I feel like an idiot and while I know the answer is a simple google search away I don't know the correct term to google.

For some reason I woke up this morning the bar at the bottom of the screen no longer shows the time and icons for commonly used programs. If I minimize a window it does not show up on the (task bar?) what do I need to do in order for them to show up again?


Right click on it, go to properties, and from there you can customize how icons appear.


thank you sooo much. This was about as bad as full window browsing.

The little things drives me crazy
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
April 02 2013 20:57 GMT
#5949
Hmmm, random thought since I've been benchmarking my 3570k as I am OC'ing it.... why is the 3770k supposed to be the same as the 3570k for gaming, and sc2 in specific, if the 3770k has such a higher single threaded score?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 02 2013 21:24 GMT
#5950
What are you looking at that shows the 3770k being significantly better than 3570k in single threaded performance? Only the small amount of extra cache would help it be slightly better than the 3570k.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
April 02 2013 21:29 GMT
#5951
On April 03 2013 06:24 skyR wrote:
What are you looking at that shows the 3770k being significantly better than 3570k in single threaded performance? Only the small amount of extra cache would help it be slightly better than the 3570k.

Mainly in Passmark single threaded CPU test, there's about a 10-13% difference. While not "significant" perhaps it was more than I expected. I had to OC to 4.1 before it was basically on par with a stock 3770k score.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 02 2013 21:31 GMT
#5952
Passmark is a piece of shit, there are tons of things that don't make sense in it.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
April 02 2013 21:51 GMT
#5953
On April 03 2013 06:31 skyR wrote:
Passmark is a piece of shit, there are tons of things that don't make sense in it.

xD
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
April 02 2013 22:11 GMT
#5954
You can argue about the nature of the tests Passmark runs, but it's mostly the huge inconsistencies in reported results that are the problem. People look at some numbers and think they're getting apples-to-apples comparisons, but they're not. So just ignore it.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
April 02 2013 22:46 GMT
#5955
Hmmm, so I'm currently running my 3570k at 4.3ghz (on Asus p8z77-v lx), temperatures currently in prime95 are low 70s, been running for about an hour. Maxed out at 83 C in Intel Burn Test earlier. Ran SC2 fine, ran some black ops 2 as well for the hell of it. CPU-Z shows a vcore of 1.232 V, Core speed 4385.77 mhz. So temps seem fine enough, sc2 doesn't even take the cpu past mid 50s at worst. Does the vcore look about right for the core speed? I actually had it set to 1.25 in bios, but somehow it's running just fine at 1.232.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 22:59:55
April 02 2013 22:58 GMT
#5956
VCore could be either optimal or way too high compared to what's necessary, and there's no way we'd know. Depends on the chip you get.

Forgetting what's possible, temps and VCore are in the range that should most probably be okay, so no problems there if it's stable and for whatever reason you just wanted to leave it.

edit: fix linguistic ambiguity
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
April 02 2013 23:00 GMT
#5957
On April 03 2013 07:58 Myrmidon wrote:
VCore could be way too high compared to what's necessary or optimal, and there's no way we'd know. Depends on the chip you get.

Forgetting what's possible, temps and VCore are in the range that should most probably be okay, so no problems there if it's stable and for whatever reason you just wanted to leave it.

I'm currently running about as low as I can drop the vcore for my core speed without my a bunch of errors (been messing around with the numbers). If this ends up being stable for a while I might drop another 0.05 and so on. But yea, just wanted to know if the numbers were in the ok range.
Juddas
Profile Joined January 2011
768 Posts
April 03 2013 00:25 GMT
#5958
So I have been having this issue for a while now with my mouse, hope this is the right place to ask and that is hasn't been asked before. So basically my mouse randomly will become incredibly unresponsive to the point where it won't even register clicks. It happens every once in a while, but it happens almost every single time I play League of Legends or Starcraft and becomes quite infuriating.

I am using a Logitech M510 and Windows 8. It is only on my new computer that I built so maybe that has something to do with it too. I have tried installing the new drivers from the Logitech Support site but that didn't seem to help the problem. Thanks for your assistance!
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
April 03 2013 01:34 GMT
#5959
On April 03 2013 08:00 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 07:58 Myrmidon wrote:
VCore could be way too high compared to what's necessary or optimal, and there's no way we'd know. Depends on the chip you get.

Forgetting what's possible, temps and VCore are in the range that should most probably be okay, so no problems there if it's stable and for whatever reason you just wanted to leave it.

I'm currently running about as low as I can drop the vcore for my core speed without my a bunch of errors (been messing around with the numbers). If this ends up being stable for a while I might drop another 0.05 and so on. But yea, just wanted to know if the numbers were in the ok range.

Windows also can write a "WHEA" entry into its system event log. It looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/63qafnG.png The PC does not BSOD, no program crashes. It only shows up in the log. Those errors only completely disappeared after increasing VCore by several 0.005 steps from what I've originally deduced with stress tests.

In the spreadsheet I've used to document the overclocking, it started out with 1.215 VCore managing 40 runs of 4096 KB IntelBurnTest, and it ended up being 1.255 VCore after a week. Prime95 was half the cause, and then an additional 0.015 because of those WHEA-Logger warnings.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
April 03 2013 01:42 GMT
#5960
@Juddas: I'd try putting the receiver in another USB slot, not only a different one on the back, but also one on the front of the case. You could also try rearranging the position of your case, perhaps making the mouse having less problems with getting a good wireless connection. Do you have a different mouse to test with for a day (preferably something wired)?
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
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