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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 12:17:05
May 23 2011 12:16 GMT
#21
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/290?vs=313

Bear in mind, actual mileage may vary due to out of the box OC's, but that should give you a fair idea.

460s were a sexy sexy card for their price point once upon a time. Sometimes they still are.
UisTehSux
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States693 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 12:32:06
May 23 2011 12:28 GMT
#22
I have two AMD 6870s in crossfire and I have never had any driver issues, I don't know where everyone keeps getting this notion from.

The 5000 series must have been pretty bad, lol.

After switching from Nvidia to my AMD 6000 series cards, I never noticed any real difference in driver quality, downloaded drivers, and it runs. Only thing that freaked my out was the CCC is way different looking than the Nvidia control panel. @_@.
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
May 23 2011 12:35 GMT
#23
On May 23 2011 21:28 UisTehSux wrote:
I have two AMD 6870s in crossfire and I have never had any driver issues, I don't know where everyone keeps getting this notion from.

The 5000 series must have been pretty bad, lol.


Driver issues kinda come in phases, they've both had bad drivers at different times. Add in brand loyalty and "a friend of a friend" stories and all of a sudden you can hear pretty much anything about any card.

Fact, though. I haven't heard of AMD doing anything as pathetic as Nvidia's slow as hell response to the Dragon Age 2 situation recently. "Oh we're releasing a flagship card in just over a month, why bother fixing our driver support for this AAA title for our current lineup?"
Alkadizar
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia25 Posts
May 23 2011 12:40 GMT
#24
Thank you all so much for such prompt and useful replies.
BeMannerDuPenner you should have a job doing this stuff

well i think the choice is much clearer in my mind now. 6870 sounds like my cup of tea.
Cheers
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 12:53:22
May 23 2011 12:52 GMT
#25
On May 23 2011 21:40 Alkadizar wrote:
Thank you all so much for such prompt and useful replies.
BeMannerDuPenner you should have a job doing this stuff

well i think the choice is much clearer in my mind now. 6870 sounds like my cup of tea.
Cheers


haha thx, glad i could help


its just that i was in a very similar situation last week when i had to decide what to buy with a 100-150€ budget. and when i buy something i really dig deep into the market cause i want to spend my money well and find it really interesting anyways.

btw was a decision between a 460 and a 6870 in the end as well.was a OC 460 for 110€ vs a 150€ 6870 so i went with the 460 in my case :>
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Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
May 23 2011 13:10 GMT
#26
i bought an xfx power supply and tried to register it on their site for the 5 year warranty (as opposed to the two year.) neither the product code or the part code worked. thanks a bunch xfx
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Alkadizar
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia25 Posts
May 25 2011 04:15 GMT
#27
So i did some more looking into the 6870 and it says 500W PSU required.
I currently have a 350W one powering nothing out of the ordinary.
Will i have to buy a new PSU to keep it all running safely?
(I am trying to keep cost to a mimum to prevent Wife Agro)
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
May 25 2011 04:21 GMT
#28
On May 25 2011 13:15 Alkadizar wrote:
So i did some more looking into the 6870 and it says 500W PSU required.
I currently have a 350W one powering nothing out of the ordinary.
Will i have to buy a new PSU to keep it all running safely?
(I am trying to keep cost to a mimum to prevent Wife Agro)


Most likely you will, because the 350W you're using is probably shit. What's the model?

However, the estimated power needed that the GPU manufacturer puts on the box is always an over the top estimate to compensate for combinations of shit PSU's and overall weird system configurations, since users do the damnedest things.
Alkadizar
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia25 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-25 04:25:06
May 25 2011 04:24 GMT
#29
The model was nothing special from memory. just the cheapest replacement of the 350W that blew up before it
( I can be a bit of a bush mechanic when it comes to these things. )

Oh well. looks like i will have to give a lot of neck massages to keep the wife happy while i tell her about the cost...
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-25 04:28:11
May 25 2011 04:26 GMT
#30
On May 25 2011 13:24 Alkadizar wrote:
The model was nothing special from memory. just the cheapest replacement of the 350W that blew up before it
( I can be a bit of a bush mechanic when it comes to these things. )

Oh well. looks like i will have to give a lot of neck massages to keep the wife happy while i tell her about the cost...


There's some perfectly good options like the XFX Core 450W or Antec Neo Eco 430 that should run it fine for a pretty reasonable price.

If it's any consolation, last year I had to pitch a full new system when my PSU blew up the anti-social way and took everything else out. If my wife wasn't in IT, I would probably have ended up with a third of the budget I did...
Alkadizar
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia25 Posts
May 25 2011 04:35 GMT
#31
A wife in IT....sounds like a sweet gig.

would this suffice?

http://ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemID=601089

trying to find one from this company as i will be going there anyway
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
May 25 2011 04:40 GMT
#32
Yuck, what other retailers are available in your area?
Alkadizar
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia25 Posts
May 25 2011 04:42 GMT
#33
austin.net.au
are a small walk from work so that's another option
Askr
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany139 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-25 04:50:22
May 25 2011 04:45 GMT
#34
On May 23 2011 17:51 Womwomwom wrote:The only places AMD lags behind nVidia is in their professional cards and OpenGL performance. None of this concerns end users unless you use Linux and even then the open source drivers for AMD cards are still capable and are apparently better than nVidia's open source drivers.


because the closed source nvidia drivers for linux just work fine. no need to use the opensourced ones.
the proprietary AMD driver suck donkey balls and the open source driver only support half the graphics cards and half the instructions ... no proper 3d etcetc. so in linux nvidia >>>>>>>> amd/ati

i'm a heavy linux user and i can only recommend to buy nvidia graphics cards - obviously for linux, but also for windows and gaming.
they just work more stable and tend to make less problems.

(and yes, i used both, some time ago and recently, but now im sticking with intel/nvidia and never will go back)

@PSU question:
50$ seems kinda much for an 430W PSU and it only has 1 6pin PCIe connector. so depending on the card you inted to buy, this my not be sufficent, i tend to use the PSU connectors instead of adapters. (i trust them "more" ^^)
so maybe you should look for another PSU
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
May 25 2011 04:48 GMT
#35
Might want to wait for one of our PSU gurus, I don't really recognize those brands, but the OEM's on some of them might be decent. I'm not personally a fan of Thermaltake, they're really hit or miss, I had one go catastrophic on my PC.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
May 25 2011 04:51 GMT
#36
Those are some terrible options and selection, sorry to say. You're not going to want that Thermaltake Litepower if you want what's good for your computer. Try to explain a more expensive power supply as something much less likely to blow up on you, cause damage to your computer slowly over time, and other nasty things. Think of the average cost of ownership as being lower.

If you can get something shipped, I'd recommend an Antec Neo Eco 450C (or maybe Corsair CX430 V2) for 59 AUD instead, as these should be much better:
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_535&products_id=13454
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_535&products_id=17405
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 25 2011 04:56 GMT
#37
That Thermaltake only provides 23a (probably not but that's what the label says) so it's probably no better than what is currently powering your configuration.
Filter
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada620 Posts
May 25 2011 04:58 GMT
#38
On May 23 2011 17:43 Dezzeh wrote:
I find it funny how many people are saying AMD/ATI drivers are terrible. While this was the case years ago, they have stepped up their game. Their drivers aren't any better or worse than NVIDIA's. In fact, CF scaling is slightly better than SLI (not that this applies to you, since you're not going dual GPU)! And stability is no problem either.

Anyway, either will work just great. I'm inclined to recommend the AMD option because I've been using an 4890 since it has been released without a single problem. But really, go with the cheaper one that is available to you.


If stuff supports it sure.

I run crossfired 6870's and I hate them. Given the option again I'd switch to nvidia any day of the week. I used to have a 4870 and loved that card, the performance was amazing for the time so when I rebuilt I stayed with ati and have had nothing but headaches.

Live hard, live free.
Alkadizar
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia25 Posts
May 25 2011 05:43 GMT
#39
Is there any difference between these 2?

http://www.austin.net.au/ProductList/ProductDetail/tabid/104/ProductCode/PSU-CO430CXAU/Default.aspx

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_535&products_id=17405

not sure if the V2 is any real difference...
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 25 2011 05:46 GMT
#40
V2 is the newer revision of the original. Three year warranty (as opposed to two), 80+ Certified (as opposed to none), and slightly better components.

reviews:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Corsair-CX430-V2-Power-Supply-Review/1284
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=239
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