• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 08:37
CET 14:37
KST 22:37
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview12Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win2RSL Season 4 announced for March-April6Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft 2 Not at the Esports World Cup 2026 Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) HomeStory Cup 28 StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) RSL Season 4 announced for March-April $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Can someone share very abbreviated BW cliffnotes? [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Liquipedia.net NEEDS editors for Brood War BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Path of Exile Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Join illminati in Luanda Angola+27 60 696 7068
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Play, Watch, Drink: Esports …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1717 users

Help me choose between 2 Graphics Cards

Forum Index > Tech Support
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Alkadizar
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia25 Posts
May 23 2011 07:58 GMT
#1
Hi guys.

I have been reading through lots of forum topics in these forums trying to learn all i can about graphics cards.
I just got a $150 voucher for a computer store here in perth (PLE computers) and have narrowed my options down to 2.

the GTX460

http://ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemID=606218

and the HD6870

http://ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemID=601930

I had my heart on the GTX 460 until i got an email from the store saying the HD6870 has better performance for a better price.

I could really do with some input from people who know their stuff about this topic.
(Also if you see any other cards cheaper and better from that store please let me know.)

Thanks in advance
-Alk
Viperskwa
Profile Joined July 2009
United States106 Posts
May 23 2011 08:02 GMT
#2
I would honestly pick the gtx over the ati card any day. Ati cards may have better performance as a card but their drivers are terrible. I HATE ati drivers. Riddled with bugs everywhere. Save yourself some headache and go with nvidia.
danson
Profile Joined April 2010
United States689 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 08:07:10
May 23 2011 08:03 GMT
#3
6870 is "faster", but as above said ATI drivers a horrid, and i think going the safe route with the 460 is well worth the 8%~ performance gain you'd get over the ati card.
xaeiu
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
432 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 09:32:01
May 23 2011 08:03 GMT
#4
ati actually really has a good timing sometimes. i personally would choose the 6870 over the 460 too. had a similar case when the 5870 was released and i initially planned to get the latest nvidia card at that time
never regreted that choice so far and from what i know the 6870 would be a great choice too
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 23 2011 08:08 GMT
#5
6870 is better and less expensive. Anyone saying get the GTX 460 is clearly Nvidia bias either through blind fanboyism or bad experience with ATI in the past.
ESPRITsc
Profile Joined April 2011
200 Posts
May 23 2011 08:14 GMT
#6
Go with HD6870.
Alkadizar
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia25 Posts
May 23 2011 08:16 GMT
#7
Thanks for such fast replies guys!
Are both fine for overclocking later on if i choose to go down that path?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 23 2011 08:19 GMT
#8
On May 23 2011 17:16 Alkadizar wrote:
Thanks for such fast replies guys!
Are both fine for overclocking later on if i choose to go down that path?


Both cards only have stock heatsinks so overclocking potential may not be that great on either card.
Zalman
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden65 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 08:30:58
May 23 2011 08:30 GMT
#9
On May 23 2011 17:08 skyR wrote:
6870 is better and less expensive. Anyone saying get the GTX 460 is clearly Nvidia bias either through blind fanboyism or bad experience with ATI in the past.


And having had a horrible experience with ATI in the past isn't a good enough reason to recommend the NVidia card?

I have had quite a few ATI cards and I must say my GTX 295 was so much more stable, no driver crashes and such.

I would gladly sacrifice some preformance for stability anyday becouse there is no worse thing then PC crashes.
KOVU
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark708 Posts
May 23 2011 08:33 GMT
#10
Hmm, I'm in a similar situation.

What about GTX 560 Ti vs 6950 (1GB)? I was told that the 560 Ti is a much better option, would anyone care to shed some light on it?
snaerdi
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland70 Posts
May 23 2011 08:35 GMT
#11
Whatever you do, please, just PLEASE, do NOT take the ATI card. Their drivers are TEERRRIIBBLEEEE. I'm about to go emo because of them so save your soul and go for Nvidia.
This is why we can't have nice things.. SC 2 || Skyrim || Diablo III || ME 3
Dezzeh
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands45 Posts
May 23 2011 08:43 GMT
#12
I find it funny how many people are saying AMD/ATI drivers are terrible. While this was the case years ago, they have stepped up their game. Their drivers aren't any better or worse than NVIDIA's. In fact, CF scaling is slightly better than SLI (not that this applies to you, since you're not going dual GPU)! And stability is no problem either.

Anyway, either will work just great. I'm inclined to recommend the AMD option because I've been using an 4890 since it has been released without a single problem. But really, go with the cheaper one that is available to you.
yks
Profile Joined August 2010
United States61 Posts
May 23 2011 08:49 GMT
#13
On May 23 2011 17:08 skyR wrote:
6870 is better and less expensive. Anyone saying get the GTX 460 is clearly Nvidia bias either through blind fanboyism or bad experience with ATI in the past.

This.

If I had to choose between the two, I'd get a 6870.

I've never had problems with ATI drivers. And when choosing between items in similar price ranges, I always look @ the benchmarks because statistics > brandism.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
May 23 2011 08:51 GMT
#14
AMD taking over ATi pretty much fixed their driver issues to the point that they're just as bad as nVidia's drivers. The user interface in Forceware is better, you get proper 3D Vision, and PhysX (which no one uses) and that's about it - the distance in driver quality is no where near what it used to be.

The only places AMD lags behind nVidia is in their professional cards and OpenGL performance. None of this concerns end users unless you use Linux and even then the open source drivers for AMD cards are still capable and are apparently better than nVidia's open source drivers.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 23 2011 08:54 GMT
#15
On May 23 2011 17:30 Zalman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 17:08 skyR wrote:
6870 is better and less expensive. Anyone saying get the GTX 460 is clearly Nvidia bias either through blind fanboyism or bad experience with ATI in the past.


And having had a horrible experience with ATI in the past isn't a good enough reason to recommend the NVidia card?

I have had quite a few ATI cards and I must say my GTX 295 was so much more stable, no driver crashes and such.

I would gladly sacrifice some preformance for stability anyday becouse there is no worse thing then PC crashes.


Recommending based on past personal experience is not a good reason. Nvidia also had problems in the past (their driver recall last year come to mind.) and you're one of the lucky ones that didn't come across these problems.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
May 23 2011 11:40 GMT
#16
On May 23 2011 17:54 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 17:30 Zalman wrote:
On May 23 2011 17:08 skyR wrote:
6870 is better and less expensive. Anyone saying get the GTX 460 is clearly Nvidia bias either through blind fanboyism or bad experience with ATI in the past.


And having had a horrible experience with ATI in the past isn't a good enough reason to recommend the NVidia card?

I have had quite a few ATI cards and I must say my GTX 295 was so much more stable, no driver crashes and such.

I would gladly sacrifice some preformance for stability anyday becouse there is no worse thing then PC crashes.


Recommending based on past personal experience is not a good reason. Nvidia also had problems in the past (their driver recall last year come to mind.) and you're one of the lucky ones that didn't come across these problems.


Don't forget the debacle of the DA2 release, where you needed a minimum of SLI 460's with a custom SLI profile or a 480 to turn DX11 on and get above slideshow if you had nvidia, although I think AMD had a hand in that since they were the graphics partner.
Zalman
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden65 Posts
May 23 2011 11:44 GMT
#17
On May 23 2011 17:54 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 17:30 Zalman wrote:
On May 23 2011 17:08 skyR wrote:
6870 is better and less expensive. Anyone saying get the GTX 460 is clearly Nvidia bias either through blind fanboyism or bad experience with ATI in the past.


And having had a horrible experience with ATI in the past isn't a good enough reason to recommend the NVidia card?

I have had quite a few ATI cards and I must say my GTX 295 was so much more stable, no driver crashes and such.

I would gladly sacrifice some preformance for stability anyday becouse there is no worse thing then PC crashes.


Recommending based on past personal experience is not a good reason. Nvidia also had problems in the past (their driver recall last year come to mind.) and you're one of the lucky ones that didn't come across these problems.



personaly I would rather take a recomendation from someone with experience with something then someone that just read somewhere on the internet what as better.

Back on topic. The rare times i have had driver crashes on my Nvidia cards the screen just went black for a few sec and the Nvidia thing tells me it has reset the graphic driver and then I can keep playing like nothing happned.

When the same happned with my ATI card it did the same except the game I had running just stayed black and I had to alt+f4 it and restart, is this somethign ATI has since fixed or is it still an issue?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
May 23 2011 11:50 GMT
#18
On May 23 2011 20:44 Zalman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 17:54 skyR wrote:
On May 23 2011 17:30 Zalman wrote:
On May 23 2011 17:08 skyR wrote:
6870 is better and less expensive. Anyone saying get the GTX 460 is clearly Nvidia bias either through blind fanboyism or bad experience with ATI in the past.


And having had a horrible experience with ATI in the past isn't a good enough reason to recommend the NVidia card?

I have had quite a few ATI cards and I must say my GTX 295 was so much more stable, no driver crashes and such.

I would gladly sacrifice some preformance for stability anyday becouse there is no worse thing then PC crashes.


Recommending based on past personal experience is not a good reason. Nvidia also had problems in the past (their driver recall last year come to mind.) and you're one of the lucky ones that didn't come across these problems.



personaly I would rather take a recomendation from someone with experience with something then someone that just read somewhere on the internet what as better.

Back on topic. The rare times i have had driver crashes on my Nvidia cards the screen just went black for a few sec and the Nvidia thing tells me it has reset the graphic driver and then I can keep playing like nothing happned.

When the same happned with my ATI card it did the same except the game I had running just stayed black and I had to alt+f4 it and restart, is this somethign ATI has since fixed or is it still an issue?


Uhm, personal experience from someone on the internet is, from an objective point of view, at best equally anecdotal to an online review site. If you use good review sites, it's more so.

As for how well things work when they aren't working properly, that's not exactly what you should be looking for in any hardware.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 12:17:18
May 23 2011 12:08 GMT
#19
was in a similar situation just now.

the 460 is a overclocked version and is def a nice card but imho quite overpriced. you can get cheaper 460s just sadly not at that shop.

the 6870 does have more power no question. but it has the reference cooling design which is known to be very loud.


also XFX seems to be not the nicest company when it comes to RMA/warranty issues.only heared bad things about their service but its possible that this is limited to europe. while EVGA has its interesting step up programm (http://www.evga.com/support/stepup/).


so unless you wanna use their stepup programm ( im not sure how it works in this case since the card at the shop is more expensive then other stronger cards at their site) or really cant stand some fan noise the 6870 is the far better deal bringing more power at less cost to the table.



and ignore the nvidia vs ati debates and fanboy answers. fact is both companys hugely fucked up in the past and both will fuck up again in the future. right now they both have great cards esp in that price segment and only the deal should decide over what you buy.


On May 23 2011 17:19 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 17:16 Alkadizar wrote:
Thanks for such fast replies guys!
Are both fine for overclocking later on if i choose to go down that path?


Both cards only have stock heatsinks so overclocking potential may not be that great on either card.


the reference heatsinks on the 460s are quite decent while the ones one the 6870 are known to run very loud. and the 460 in general has very good overclocking potential. its said that you can get evry chip to 850mhz and most hit 900 with some more voltage. at that point a 460gtx can beat a 470gtx.



life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
May 23 2011 12:16 GMT
#20
get the 6870, dont listen to this bad driver crap, the 6000 series have great drivers
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Invitational
12:00
Group D
SHIN vs ShoWTimELIVE!
MaxPax vs SHIN
MaxPax vs ShoWTimE
WardiTV840
IndyStarCraft 241
TKL 190
Rex113
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 241
TKL 190
ProTech132
Rex 113
BRAT_OK 80
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 40752
Calm 9873
Bisu 3151
Jaedong 1249
GuemChi 960
actioN 628
BeSt 582
Mini 554
Light 502
Soma 407
[ Show more ]
JYJ 374
Soulkey 254
ZerO 252
ggaemo 223
Sharp 213
Snow 200
hero 173
Rush 172
Bale 158
ajuk12(nOOB) 158
Hyun 105
Mong 102
Aegong 78
Pusan 67
Mind 53
Sacsri 46
ToSsGirL 45
Shuttle 45
Movie 40
Free 39
Killer 35
Backho 34
zelot 32
sorry 32
Hyuk 30
Hm[arnc] 25
GoRush 23
Yoon 23
scan(afreeca) 22
910 14
ZergMaN 13
HiyA 13
SilentControl 12
Shinee 10
Terrorterran 6
Icarus 6
ivOry 6
Rock 3
Dota 2
Gorgc4755
XaKoH 415
Dendi141
XcaliburYe124
Counter-Strike
zeus1282
allub330
edward115
kRYSTAL_35
Other Games
Liquid`RaSZi1834
B2W.Neo1341
hiko346
crisheroes313
RotterdaM226
Pyrionflax217
DeMusliM169
Mew2King92
KnowMe47
ZerO(Twitch)21
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota242
League of Legends
• Jankos3953
• Stunt1010
• TFBlade501
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
10h 24m
The PondCast
20h 24m
WardiTV Invitational
22h 24m
Replay Cast
1d 10h
RongYI Cup
2 days
herO vs Maru
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-03
HSC XXVIII
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W7
Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.