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furymonkey
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand1587 Posts
July 27 2010 10:27 GMT
#1
Anyone noticed the slow alt tabness with StarCraft 2 Retail? It takes me good old 15 seconds on a fast performance PC.

It used to be fine on Beta, where it only took a second max. Now everytime I alt tab to window, I need to wait good old 15 seconds staring at the black screen.

Anyone else has this problem? And has anyone found the cause or solution?
Leenock the Punisher
Redx
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands77 Posts
July 27 2010 10:57 GMT
#2
Normally maybe putting it on maxed windowed mode would work? Can't really recall if that was availible in SC2 but thought so

Hope that works!
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StayPhrosty
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada406 Posts
July 27 2010 11:07 GMT
#3
cant say ive noticed a difference but i didnt exactly time it. are you sure you're not running anything in the background? have you returned your graphics settings to normal? (probably lowest settings all around for more competitive play, also dont forget to set sound quality to low for fastest performance)
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furymonkey
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand1587 Posts
July 27 2010 11:56 GMT
#4
Hey, thanks for the reply. I've asked my friends who are also playing, they also have the same problem. So apperently it isn't just me.

I also noticed if you start the application fresh, you can alt tab just fine. But once you entered a game, it will take ages to alt tab.

My grahpics setting are set to Ultra at the moment, maybe I will lower it to test it, but as stated before, Beta runs just fine for me.
Leenock the Punisher
AnodyneSea
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Jamaica757 Posts
July 27 2010 12:12 GMT
#5
Hi, in phase 2 of beta i got a new computer and its insanely fast and i used to alt tab in and out instantly and then one day it wouldnt tab back in fast, another one of my friends also experienced this.. also brings up the drop window when i do it in game
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opticalza
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand188 Posts
July 27 2010 12:15 GMT
#6
Yeah im noticing this too, on both my PC an laptop. Laptop is average, as you'd expect, but my PC runs the game on ultra np. In phase 1 and 2 i didn't have this issue. Seems to have popped up with release for me. Kind of frustrating, will look into what can be done.
vek
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia936 Posts
July 27 2010 12:53 GMT
#7
Heh well at least yours is just slow, my SC2 goes into "not responding" mode when I alt tab. Even had to reset my PC once cause I couldn't open task manager

Seems like something they could fix though because I never had issues in the beta.
RawrAnOcean
Profile Joined February 2006
United States359 Posts
July 27 2010 13:18 GMT
#8
I had the same problem in Phase 2. So I stopped alt tabbing and just use the laptop next to me. In phase 1 alt tab was less than a second, then phase 2 was around half a minute sometimes. Argh it was annoying.
disco
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Netherlands1667 Posts
July 27 2010 13:44 GMT
#9
It usually "hangs" when your ingame resolution is different from your desktop resolution. Try setting the game resolution to match your desktop and alt-tabbing speed should improve.
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ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-27 13:57:44
July 27 2010 13:57 GMT
#10
For me also it's like 15 seconds to return to game, just horrible. On beta I played on exact same options and it look just 1 second..
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
buycheese
Profile Joined May 2010
12 Posts
July 27 2010 14:08 GMT
#11
my friends and i have noticed this too, and it has nothing to do with different in-game and desktop resolutions as someone else suggested. it's only mildly annoying at this point.
EppE
Profile Joined July 2010
United States221 Posts
July 27 2010 14:29 GMT
#12
Are you running in window or full screen mode? Mine use to do that until I set it to Windowed (Full Screen) and now it's fine.
hunter3
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States155 Posts
July 27 2010 19:11 GMT
#13
I can confirm this happened some time during phase 2, and that it didn't occur before. Top-end computer took like 30 seconds to tab back into the game. Fortunately it was a placement match, but I disabled alt-tabbing afterwards.
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
July 27 2010 19:15 GMT
#14
Do any of the people seeing this happen use video cards in CrossFire or SLI? I used to have this ALL the time when I used CrossFire/SLI.
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Redx
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands77 Posts
July 27 2010 19:47 GMT
#15
please see my first reply and try setting it to windows (fullscreen) mode. This should fix long alttab times.
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snowbird
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Germany2044 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-27 22:14:28
July 27 2010 22:13 GMT
#16
I'm having the same problem.

With a fresh start of the game alt-tab works instantly, but after some time it takes about 15 seconds.

Settings are on ultra, ingame resolution = desktop resolution.

Set to fullscreen (not windowed).

It's pretty annoying.
@riotsnowbird
Kegsta
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia17 Posts
July 27 2010 23:14 GMT
#17
Same problem here, are you guys using ATI cards? 3 of my friends on ATI get the same problem but 1 on Nvidia doesn't. After BFBC2 load times i wouldn't be surprised if its ATI causing it.

I was fine during the beta also.
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snowbird
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Germany2044 Posts
July 28 2010 09:14 GMT
#18
Yeah, I got an ATI Radeon 5770.

Win7 Pro x64.

Hopefully there'll be a fix soon.
@riotsnowbird
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
July 28 2010 09:19 GMT
#19
Me too ATI HD4890 with this problem.
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GoDannY
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany442 Posts
July 28 2010 09:35 GMT
#20
On July 28 2010 18:19 Alpina wrote:
Me too ATI HD4890 with this problem.


same, same but not that big of deal, I tend not to tab out in game.
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Daavee
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany11 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 09:41:48
July 28 2010 09:41 GMT
#21
Switch in the Graphic options from "Fullscreen" to "Windowed Mode (Fullscreen)".
This should solve tabbing problems as mentioned above.
Juvator
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands199 Posts
July 30 2010 17:28 GMT
#22
daamn this is horrible :s they really gotta fix this problem.. it takes about 2 minutes before I get back into the game after alt tabbing ... during beta this was instant.
this makes no sense.. all the setting are the same as they were during beta, I got a fast computer, 5850hd OC`ed, i7 920 OCed to 3,5ghz, 6gigs triple channel ddr 3 ram.. my screen res is the same as the game res 1920x1200.

do you guys think this will be fixed ? I will turn it on windowed mode for now.. but whats the difference between that and full screen then ?? it must be in some way less then normal full screen right ?

I just wanna get everything out of the game that I can so having to degrade because some bad coding or whatever by blizzard is not cool at all.
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
Vlad.
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands23 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 18:29:37
July 30 2010 18:29 GMT
#23
On July 28 2010 18:41 Daavee wrote:
Switch in the Graphic options from "Fullscreen" to "Windowed Mode (Fullscreen)".
This should solve tabbing problems as mentioned above.

This!

People do not really seem to read this thread, it has been mentioned several times already :S .Alt-tabbing is nearly instantaneous when using Windows (Fullscreen).

Edit: @Juvator: Windowed (Fullscreen) provides the exact same gaming experience as Fullscreen.
Juvator
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands199 Posts
July 30 2010 18:37 GMT
#24
allright thanks for clearing that up vlad, I shall be running it on that then.
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
ClanOverdosed
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
691 Posts
July 30 2010 19:23 GMT
#25
I got this problem too, on the other hand I'm grateful because a friend of mine can't even alt+tab or his sc2 will crash
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SONE
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada839 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 19:27:00
July 30 2010 19:26 GMT
#26
When i had my 4870 playing COD4 awhile back and other applications, I noticed the alt-tabbing back in was really slow too. Right now I'm with Nvidia and I have no problems, but seems kind of unfortunate that ATI still has this problem with some users

EDIT: Window Max is NOT the same as fullscreen. It'll give you the freedom of tabbing, at the cost of performance.
eNtitY~
Profile Joined January 2007
United States1293 Posts
July 30 2010 20:38 GMT
#27
It does take a lot longer now ~_~~~~~

I don't like using windowed fullscreen
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Bob300
Profile Joined April 2010
United States505 Posts
July 30 2010 20:54 GMT
#28
I have a 5850 and it takes like 2 minutes to make it alt tab back into the game.
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Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
July 30 2010 21:10 GMT
#29
On July 31 2010 04:26 SONE wrote:
When i had my 4870 playing COD4 awhile back and other applications, I noticed the alt-tabbing back in was really slow too. Right now I'm with Nvidia and I have no problems, but seems kind of unfortunate that ATI still has this problem with some users

EDIT: Window Max is NOT the same as fullscreen. It'll give you the freedom of tabbing, at the cost of performance.


well for those with overpowered cards like dual ati raedon 5850 preformence isn't mutch of an issue.
SONE
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada839 Posts
July 30 2010 21:16 GMT
#30
I didn't say it was, I was saying that the statement : "Windowed (Fullscreen) provides the exact same gaming experience as Fullscreen." is not true. There is a performance hit, it is not the same at all.
Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
July 30 2010 21:22 GMT
#31
On July 31 2010 06:16 SONE wrote:
I didn't say it was, I was saying that the statement : "Windowed (Fullscreen) provides the exact same gaming experience as Fullscreen." is not true. There is a performance hit, it is not the same at all.


Everything is the same, your frame rate might drop a little bit. The difrence however between 60 and 55 doesnt matter mutch anyways. For me it didnt since it was capped at 60 anyways.
SONE
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada839 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 21:24:05
July 30 2010 21:23 GMT
#32
That is not the same, since when does 60 = 55?
Inkarnate
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada840 Posts
July 30 2010 21:24 GMT
#33
SONE is correct Marradron.
Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 21:33:50
July 30 2010 21:29 GMT
#34
On July 31 2010 06:24 Inkarnate wrote:
SONE is correct Marradron.


I am not the one who claimed it was the same. I'm just saying who cares

edit: if you're referring to my last point. GRAPYICLY it is the same as in colors, contrast and such.
SONE
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada839 Posts
July 30 2010 21:33 GMT
#35
On July 31 2010 06:22 Marradron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2010 06:16 SONE wrote:
I didn't say it was, I was saying that the statement : "Windowed (Fullscreen) provides the exact same gaming experience as Fullscreen." is not true. There is a performance hit, it is not the same at all.


Everything is the same


Whatever though, if you can survive the hit, which varies on different machines, then why not. You still shouldn't have to resort to playing in this mode and taking a hit on performance especially if your computer is more than capable to run SC2 on the highest settings, and cannot alt tab in fashion.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
July 30 2010 21:37 GMT
#36
On July 27 2010 19:27 furymonkey wrote:
Anyone noticed the slow alt tabness with StarCraft 2 Retail? It takes me good old 15 seconds on a fast performance PC.

It used to be fine on Beta, where it only took a second max. Now everytime I alt tab to window, I need to wait good old 15 seconds staring at the black screen.

Anyone else has this problem? And has anyone found the cause or solution?

I had this problem. I dont anymore. My desktop now has the same resolution as sc2 and alt tab is a breeze. One time when I exited sc2 my resolution was changed to the same as sc2 and I never bothered to change it back.
Psychopomp
Profile Joined April 2010
United States237 Posts
July 30 2010 21:54 GMT
#37
It was fine for me during beta. Now it never even comes back.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 22:00:39
July 30 2010 22:00 GMT
#38
On July 28 2010 18:41 Daavee wrote:
Switch in the Graphic options from "Fullscreen" to "Windowed Mode (Fullscreen)".
This should solve tabbing problems as mentioned above.



+1

really the fullscreen "windowed" mode is amazing. i can read TL while obsing , while waiting for the rocks to die in marine arena etc etc without any lag,delay or problems.

best "window" mode ever :D
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Noxie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2227 Posts
July 31 2010 02:20 GMT
#39
Heard some of the ATI cards have this problem.. but if you have not already done so setting your resolution to windows (full screen) will make it a lot easier to alt tab.
Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-31 03:41:21
July 31 2010 03:40 GMT
#40
omg doublepost fail
Entusman #51
Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
July 31 2010 03:40 GMT
#41
On July 31 2010 12:40 Mobius wrote:
ya same, was fine in beta.. horrible to msn/sc2 now..

Entusman #51
Rkie
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1278 Posts
July 31 2010 05:02 GMT
#42
On July 28 2010 18:41 Daavee wrote:
Switch in the Graphic options from "Fullscreen" to "Windowed Mode (Fullscreen)".
This should solve tabbing problems as mentioned above.


do this.
Pebble
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany326 Posts
July 31 2010 05:04 GMT
#43
having this problem, too. HD 5770 here. should try that windowed mode 'trick'.

Thanks guys
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Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
July 31 2010 05:23 GMT
#44
Holy shit windowed fullscreen is awesome

It's like your desktop is SC2
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PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
July 31 2010 05:30 GMT
#45
window mode + fullscreen

works great 4 me
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
July 31 2010 07:46 GMT
#46
I'm sure other people have mentioned this in the thread too but you should try out Fullscreen Windowed mode. I love it so much after trying it out, you can tab through everything so easily.

On a similar subject though, it seems like retail SC2 is really stressing my computer way more than beta was. Not sure exactly why.
Zed03
Profile Joined July 2008
Canada112 Posts
August 01 2010 00:16 GMT
#47
On July 31 2010 06:22 Marradron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2010 06:16 SONE wrote:
I didn't say it was, I was saying that the statement : "Windowed (Fullscreen) provides the exact same gaming experience as Fullscreen." is not true. There is a performance hit, it is not the same at all.


Everything is the same, your frame rate might drop a little bit. The difrence however between 60 and 55 doesnt matter mutch anyways. For me it didnt since it was capped at 60 anyways.


Those who have crossfire or sli suffer an insane performance hit, as window mode does not support sli or crossfire.
7hink
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands10 Posts
August 04 2010 17:59 GMT
#48
Thanks for this solution guys. I've had enough of the waiting. Windowed (fullscreen) works well for me as well.
GreggSauce
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States566 Posts
August 28 2010 23:46 GMT
#49
10.8 came out for ATI and it fixed my problem completely
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Nub4ever
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1981 Posts
August 29 2010 00:40 GMT
#50
Using Windowed(Fullscreen) basically makes it like alt-tabbing to your desktop. Just its annoying whenever I open a new window it ends up as my background instead of my desktop but i guess its just a price you gotta pay for gettin instant alt-tabs
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Usurper
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Macedonia283 Posts
August 30 2010 04:08 GMT
#51
On August 29 2010 08:46 GreggSauce wrote:
10.8 came out for ATI and it fixed my problem completely


Confirming this. To all those who are still not aware about the recent driver update - it's up and it's surely working for my HD 5850. ALT + TABing in takes only 1-5 secs max, now. Cheers!
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Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
February 24 2011 05:22 GMT
#52
On August 30 2010 13:08 Usurper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 08:46 GreggSauce wrote:
10.8 came out for ATI and it fixed my problem completely


Confirming this. To all those who are still not aware about the recent driver update - it's up and it's surely working for my HD 5850. ALT + TABing in takes only 1-5 secs max, now. Cheers!

WHAT? I've ran two or more versions past 10.8, like 10.1 and 11.1 and they didn't fix the problem, so I dont' see how 10.8 does.
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JhecC
Profile Joined October 2010
Philippines2 Posts
February 26 2011 12:26 GMT
#53
just set in "Graphics Options" Windowed[FullScreen]
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MrTortoise
Profile Joined January 2011
1388 Posts
February 26 2011 13:12 GMT
#54
its not just ati, i get it too with nvidia 8800gts

windowed mode does work but i hate it.
Its really not too much to ask to be able to alt tab.
Greek820
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada210 Posts
February 26 2011 15:19 GMT
#55
try using windowed fullscreen?
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7th-Real
Profile Joined December 2008
Australia93 Posts
February 26 2011 22:54 GMT
#56
Is this like a troll thread? whats with everyone suggesting the same thing as if it hasn't been said 50 times before.

Changing to windowed fullscreen will 'solve' the issue but it doesn't actually fix anything.
There is an issue with ATI card drivers that is causing a huge delay on changing resolutions,
Find some old drivers and fix the issue.
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