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dnosrc
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany454 Posts
January 11 2010 12:14 GMT
#41
You forgot one important point:

After an infection you have to reinstall windows. There is no way to be sure you cleared your PC after that.
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
January 11 2010 13:00 GMT
#42
How do you feel about the FF addon KeyScrambler? I do pretty much everything in the OP's post already, but I also turn on KeyScrambler whenever I enter sensitive info (like online bank account logins/passwords, etc.).

Mostly worthless feel-good fake-security, or actually helpful?
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
January 11 2010 13:07 GMT
#43
+1 noscript love
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
January 11 2010 13:41 GMT
#44
Can anyone please tell me if Sandboxie is a valuable software? I am using it from time to time and on certain occasions if I am skeptical about a program. Or is this redundant with all the steps from the guide?
"Alán Shore" and "August Terran" @ LoL EUW - liquidparty
7Strife
Profile Joined December 2009
United States104 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-11 18:36:16
January 11 2010 18:18 GMT
#45
On January 11 2010 13:55 R1CH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2010 13:22 7Strife wrote:
I'm an idiot


Congratulations, you probably have a rootkit.

As unlikely as it is either of us do unless you run a lot of badly peer reviewed torrents, porn codecs, etc; you may also have a rootkit. Typically, rootkits act to obscure their presence on the system through subversion or evasion of standard operating system security scan and surveillance mechanisms such as anti-virus or anti-spyware scan. Deamon Tools and Alcohol 120 use rootkits themselves in a helpful manner. If I had other rootkits installed then it isn't affecting my performance at all and isn't trying to communicate over a network. If I discovered I had one then I would reformat; not attempt to use programs to fix it. I have disc images of my clean installed OS with programs and settings so I could format and reinstall while I sleep.

"The old adage "an ounce of protection is worth a pound of cure" is incredibly apropos when it comes to rootkits. Rootkit writers and rootkit detection writers are engaged in an arms race. As soon as someone writes a better rootkit detector, someone else updates a rootkit so that it's even better camouflaged. "

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=Defending Against Rootkits&aq=f&aqi=&oq=&fp=292ac4760832f3c4
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
January 11 2010 18:30 GMT
#46
I'd like to add: don't have administrator rights on your normal user account.
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-11 20:40:26
January 11 2010 18:34 GMT
#47
On January 11 2010 20:22 Mystlord wrote:
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On January 09 2010 17:34 R1CH wrote:
Adobe software in particular seems to have a very poor history - Adobe Flash, Adobe Reader, Adobe Air have all had exploits that could allow your system to be compromised by visiting a webpage. Worse still, many of these products don't auto update so you have to rely on 3rd party assistance (Secunia PSI) or do it manually.

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On January 09 2010 17:34 R1CH wrote:
Adobe software in particular seems to have a very poor history - Adobe Flash, Adobe Reader, Adobe Air

Show nested quote +
On January 09 2010 17:34 R1CH wrote:
Adobe software in particular seems to have a very poor history

Show nested quote +
On January 09 2010 17:34 R1CH wrote:
Adobe


Makes me rage so hard.

Aside from that, R1CH is absolutely right in that it's better and easier to prevent anything from getting onto your computer than trying to get it off. I'd bold literally everything R1CH said because it's all vital. Besides from the anti-virus, you can get away with disabling DEP, but only if you have compatibility issues. There's no real reason to turn it off.

NoScript is GOD. Everyone get it. I've pretty much stopped using any sort of anti-spyware programs now because I have literally everything that's untrusted blocked.

Noscript just is a GUI for whats available in options on alot of browsers, it just allows for a quicker switching of turning on and off add ons and javascript etc. Which in most cases is just a pointless add on unless you randomly surf the web, for most part i keep to core reputable websites and don't randomly download and click things, common sense is the most powerful tool to keep a clean computer.

Also i'd find using FF with No Script a but funny as most ppl who spot FF do it for 2 reason, 1 customization with plug-ins add-ons etc, and then 2 for the speed. But what is the common bench most ppl weigh browsers with a javascript benchmark lol which no script disables by default!

Which then i'd get on a rant about IE8 and how people make it sound like a mix between a retard and someone with plague, but it's the most proactive in security and does far more then anyother browser to keep secure but is the most targeted (kind like wearing a bullet proof vest vs nothing but living in the worst parts of town vs in a nicer part) and it's speed is just fine as most webpages give you limited bandwidth and on avg the diff of speed is very minuscule between browsers when loading a complete webpage it matters little, i mean what kind of webpage is 100% javascript)

No Script;It breaks a lot of things so i don't use it.
Blind
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States2529 Posts
January 12 2010 06:48 GMT
#48
Does the advice for the System Updates still apply if I'm not running a real copy of Windows Vista?
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
January 12 2010 09:37 GMT
#49
On January 12 2010 15:48 Blind wrote:
Does the advice for the System Updates still apply if I'm not running a real copy of Windows Vista?

Microsoft for a long time has allowed system critical updates though via the windows update for illegal copies although not their their site but only though the program itself. It's to keep the people who pay for their windows to be less likely to be infected, cleaner overall environment supposedly, less viruses on computers less viruses to go around over all. The OP said the same pretty much.
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
January 12 2010 09:47 GMT
#50
On January 12 2010 03:30 Carnac wrote:
I'd like to add: don't have administrator rights on your normal user account.


lol
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
January 12 2010 09:59 GMT
#51
On January 12 2010 18:47 Saturnize wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2010 03:30 Carnac wrote:
I'd like to add: don't have administrator rights on your normal user account.


lol

you may laugh at that but it really does improve the security of the system vista and 7 default vs XP default. It just pisses off users that install and uninstall and do random shit all the time.
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
January 12 2010 10:19 GMT
#52
I just like to have control over the computer i own thats all ^^
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
January 30 2010 00:01 GMT
#53
Bump, there's some nasty rootkits going around through unpatched Adobe products, make sure you keep yourself safe!
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
March 01 2010 01:02 GMT
#54
Bumping this because it's helped me out a lot and other people should know about this too. And to the post that R1CH has posted above, that is true. Watch out with that. Every time some one ask me about securing their pc; I just refer them to this page/do it for them.
Life?
madsweepslol
Profile Joined February 2010
161 Posts
March 01 2010 04:16 GMT
#55
<.<



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apple ftw
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-02 08:51:07
March 02 2010 08:49 GMT
#56
On March 01 2010 13:16 madsweepslol wrote:
apple ftw

not if you're straight.

+1 for noscript/flashblock/adblock on firefox. Most pages look like a half-eaten sandwich with the ads turned off. No matter what the guy that raged about noscript says - it's amazing. I wouldn't be out on the web without it.

"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-02 10:47:17
March 02 2010 10:44 GMT
#57
If you use a pirated version of Windows, you can still turn on automatic updates.

r1ch,
enlighten me on how to get passed the windows genuine thing? I can't update without installing that pos first.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-02 11:08:44
March 02 2010 10:58 GMT
#58
This guide was just what I needed, thanks once again R1CH!!!

On January 30 2010 09:01 R1CH wrote:
Bump, there's some nasty rootkits going around through unpatched Adobe products, make sure you keep yourself safe!


So basically update all Adobe products? (Photoshop, Lightroom, Reader, etc?)
POGGERS
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
March 02 2010 14:24 GMT
#59
bumping this so i remember to do everything it says tomorrow morning
manner
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
March 02 2010 14:38 GMT
#60
I have a question for R1CH. I tried to install Gunbound from http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=112506 and I got a DEP error (screenshot bottom of page 4). How can I tell if Gunbound is safe to run? It's a fairly old game so that might be what's causing it.
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