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GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
May 31 2012 16:37 GMT
#121
He R1ch, Is their any other AV that you recommend? MSE is great because it is light, but the Full Scan takes for ever. Mine has been running for 6 hours and it doesn't even look 10% done. Is this normal?
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jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
May 31 2012 16:52 GMT
#122
On June 01 2012 01:37 GinDo wrote:
He R1ch, Is their any other AV that you recommend? MSE is great because it is light, but the Full Scan takes for ever. Mine has been running for 6 hours and it doesn't even look 10% done. Is this normal?


Quick scan should be good enough to get most viruses. I only worry about a full scan when a quick scan detects something. Then I rin a full scan on malwarebytes.

Works for me.
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GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
May 31 2012 17:11 GMT
#123
On June 01 2012 01:52 jpak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 01:37 GinDo wrote:
He R1ch, Is their any other AV that you recommend? MSE is great because it is light, but the Full Scan takes for ever. Mine has been running for 6 hours and it doesn't even look 10% done. Is this normal?


Quick scan should be good enough to get most viruses. I only worry about a full scan when a quick scan detects something. Then I rin a full scan on malwarebytes.

Works for me.


Thanks for the tip. You wouldn't happen to know why it is so slow compared to other AV's?
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EdenPLusDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
571 Posts
May 31 2012 17:58 GMT
#124
It isn't. You probably have a damaged file that it can't stop scanning.
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
May 31 2012 18:13 GMT
#125
On June 01 2012 02:58 EdenPLusDucky wrote:
It isn't. You probably have a damaged file that it can't stop scanning.


No it's not stuck. I think I would have noticed
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EdenPLusDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
571 Posts
May 31 2012 18:23 GMT
#126
then you have a really large hard drive or a really bad processor
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
May 31 2012 19:47 GMT
#127
On June 01 2012 03:23 EdenPLusDucky wrote:
then you have a really large hard drive or a really bad processor


500gb Hardrive

About 250gb used.

Intel i5 430M

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Shagg
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland825 Posts
June 06 2012 16:08 GMT
#128
Hey R1CH new version of EMET 3.0 is up link to it https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=29851
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 17:13:46
December 01 2012 17:11 GMT
#129
On June 07 2012 01:08 Shagg wrote:
Hey R1CH new version of EMET 3.0 is up link to it https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=29851

Here is EMET 3.5 tech preview
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=30424

Also here is a really well done guide oh how to use EMET and check if it's working, although probably still more involved then most people would be willing. Probably just skip to Recommended applications to add
http://www.rationallyparanoid.com/articles/microsoft-emet-3.html

Also for those running windows 8, checking if it works is actually semi important as there are compatibility issues.
cari-kira
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany655 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 18:51:42
December 01 2012 18:33 GMT
#130
while i dont share your view of antivirus (i think its mandatory, because its preventing 99% of the infections you could get. ever had a friend to visit who brought his usb-stick with him to copy over a file for university? how wold your measures prevent the virus it contains in his autorun.inf from executing?), the other points are spot on (you could of course argue about the firewall, because there are trojans that collect data and send it to prepared servers, and the windows firewall does not block outgoing connections. ever torrented a game to try it? how do you know that the cracked executeable does not connect to the internet, sending your serials/logins to a nice database for later use?)

having coded some "client-server applications" myself, some detected, some not, i know many anti-virus programs report executables as malicious when they inject the winsock in a special way, but hey, i'd rather manual whitelist some programs than getting a virus that perhaps screws all my data and my operating system, steals my accounts and passwords or/and does illegal things i could be held responsible for in the worst case.

of course AV does not protect from a freshly written virus that spreads just some days, and of course they have false positives, but if this prevents your system from being compromised by the 99% of old trojans/virae that are still around, its totally worth it.
not everyone has the knowledge to use his computer all the time in a way that prevents all sorts of infections, and noone should claim to be able to. reality is a bitch sometimes.
so i would suggest everyone to use AV _always_.
there really is no disadvantage, only a big advantage.

its funny that some really experienced pc users dont like AV, you are not the only one. i had the same problem with desktop firewalls, saying NAT + windows firewall would be sufficient. but its not in some situations.
i think the dislike of AV and desktop firewalls comes from people with great knowledge being bugged by some people getting paranoid, because they have AV and a desktop firewall (sometimes even 2 desktop firewalls because they feel its safer^^) without being able to understand what they are doing ("hey, i blocked this suspicious program using port 139, but i think it was too late, because my internet was gone shortly after, so i reinstalled windows."), and so these experienced people want to take a stance against this paranoia.
but: this does not justify to advise against AV/desktop firewall in general in my eyes as an easy way out. it just means you have to explain the people how to use it.

ps: i am responsible for some customer networks with 50+ client pcs for many years now, administrating both client and servers with the users being administrators on most of their PCs (because most customers want it this way.
and if they want it this way, they get it, period. no arguing with a customer, if you want to earn money.)
without antivirus these computers would be down or infected most of the times. i often get calls from people "my antivirus popped up that theres a file containing a virus on my pc, what should i do?" usually an email, an usb stick or a website.
never had any infections the last 10 years thanks to antivirus.
Live and let live
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 19:20:40
December 01 2012 19:20 GMT
#131
Last time I was in here I got:
Malwarebytes
WSE
Peerblock
Use windows firewall

for my security. Peerblock hasn't been updated in forever though, is it still useful? I think they still update the lists though, but the website looks pretty dead.

Is WSE still the best and lightest AV? I recall it was WSE vs Avast for best free, lightweight, AV 2 years ago.
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R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10341 Posts
December 01 2012 19:22 GMT
#132
On December 02 2012 03:33 cari-kira wrote:
while i dont share your view of antivirus (i think its mandatory, because its preventing 99% of the infections you could get. ever had a friend to visit who brought his usb-stick with him to copy over a file for university? how wold your measures prevent the virus it contains in his autorun.inf from executing?),

Pretty sure autorun has never run without user interaction since XP?
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phar
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1080 Posts
December 02 2012 03:16 GMT
#133
On December 02 2012 03:33 cari-kira wrote:ps: i am responsible for some customer networks with 50+ client pcs for many years now, administrating both client and servers with the users being administrators on most of their PCs (because most customers want it this way.
and if they want it this way, they get it, period. no arguing with a customer, if you want to earn money.)
without antivirus these computers would be down or infected most of the times. i often get calls from people "my antivirus popped up that theres a file containing a virus on my pc, what should i do?" usually an email, an usb stick or a website.
never had any infections the last 10 years thanks to antivirus.

The requirements when managing dozens of computers used by other people are going to be completely different than the requirements of a single person using their own computer.

AV can be very good at reducing the number of infections you'll see in a population of dozens of idiots clicking on random shit whenever possible.
Who after all is today speaking about the destruction of the Armenians?
ghindo
Profile Joined March 2012
United States58 Posts
December 03 2012 00:51 GMT
#134
Thanks for the guide R1CH, never heard of DEP before.
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-30 05:05:01
December 30 2012 03:02 GMT
#135
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R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10341 Posts
January 26 2013 02:29 GMT
#136
Updated the OP with some new advice regarding plugins (especially Java / Flash) and another AV recommendation.
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-26 03:55:12
January 26 2013 03:54 GMT
#137
Opera's plugins can be reached by typing
opera:plugins
into your address bar.

And for IE it's just smart to by default use ActiveX Filtering for websites, which can be access under safety in the commands bar. Mostly you become surprised how many sites actually support HTML5 video and you don't even need flash.
phar
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1080 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-26 05:11:39
January 26 2013 05:11 GMT
#138
You have to
[code]
block
opera:plugins
because
:p
renders as :p on the forum.

Also for chrome the // is unnecessary, you can just do
chrome:plugins
just like opera.
Who after all is today speaking about the destruction of the Armenians?
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
January 30 2013 17:08 GMT
#139
Is EMET needed for windows 8 too? Ive went to the Windows website but under requirements it does not mention Windows 8.
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FromShouri
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States862 Posts
January 30 2013 18:20 GMT
#140
On January 31 2013 02:08 Mithriel wrote:
Is EMET needed for windows 8 too? Ive went to the Windows website but under requirements it does not mention Windows 8.

Usually just means they havent made a version for 8 yet but you can use the 7 version till then if you get the right executable(32 vs 64)
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