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EPT 2022/23 Circuit Announced by ESL & DreamHack - Page 2

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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
January 07 2022 22:23 GMT
#21
3 GSL Code S, 3 GSL ST and 2 DH events
Seems like everyone who wants to make money from SC2 has to move to Korea
MaxPax
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33432 Posts
January 07 2022 23:22 GMT
#22
Interested to see the prize money total with TSL and HSC added
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4413 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-07 23:32:42
January 07 2022 23:32 GMT
#23
On January 08 2022 07:23 dbRic1203 wrote:
3 GSL Code S, 3 GSL ST and 2 DH events
Seems like everyone who wants to make money from SC2 has to move to Korea


Have 3 GSLs been confirmed? I will be surprised if GSL doesn't have to downscale a bit too unfortunately... GSL definitely gets less viewers than Dreamhack events and this is an obvious downscale even if some of the news is positive. My guess is 2 GSLs and 2 Super Tournaments next year.
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1207 Posts
January 08 2022 00:15 GMT
#24
On January 08 2022 07:23 dbRic1203 wrote:
3 GSL Code S, 3 GSL ST and 2 DH events
Seems like everyone who wants to make money from SC2 has to move to Korea


Last season you got 150$ in Europe just for a good qualifier. When you want to earn some money in GSL, you need atleast to get to Top 24 (or Top 16 for ST and it was just 500$ there).
So if you are not someone who has a very good chance of going far, moving to Korea is definetly a bad idea financial-wise.
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13978 Posts
January 08 2022 02:18 GMT
#25
Glad to hear talks for more sc2 are underway and classic DH open bracket is a nostalgically welcome sight...just worried we losing a gsl
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-08 03:51:55
January 08 2022 03:50 GMT
#26
Can only hope that by the time HSC rolls around it will get to be fully in person to celebrate being fully integrated into the schedule

EDIT: I also assume that the folks at ESL/Blizzard wouldn't interfere with the atmosphere of HSC and let it stay as is despite having a more integrated roll.
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1207 Posts
January 08 2022 04:03 GMT
#27
On January 08 2022 12:50 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Can only hope that by the time HSC rolls around it will get to be fully in person to celebrate being fully integrated into the schedule

EDIT: I also assume that the folks at ESL/Blizzard wouldn't interfere with the atmosphere of HSC and let it stay as is despite having a more integrated roll.


Some interference will definetly take place, mostly in the fact that I can't imagine HSC will stay invite-only as before. For years now HSC had barely any qualifiers, so we always got a mix of the world elite and some players that are just staples, but probably would never make it through a qualifier.
Can't imagine they will just throw-out points for players who only got invited
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3411 Posts
January 08 2022 05:17 GMT
#28
Personally I dont see how they cut GSL a season shorter, maybe the Super Tournament but not the code S. GSL run on a separate deal and got different sponsorship, they dont fall under the same deal between ESL and Blizzard. The only connection between them are the EPT points and the spot from GSL into the DH Season Global Final. Speaking of which, if GSL stay the same, meaning the EPT points system advantage for KR in the coming season will be even bigger with more events and pts. They probably need to change that pts system a bit more.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
January 08 2022 07:47 GMT
#29
On January 08 2022 09:15 Balnazza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2022 07:23 dbRic1203 wrote:
3 GSL Code S, 3 GSL ST and 2 DH events
Seems like everyone who wants to make money from SC2 has to move to Korea


Last season you got 150$ in Europe just for a good qualifier. When you want to earn some money in GSL, you need atleast to get to Top 24 (or Top 16 for ST and it was just 500$ there).
So if you are not someone who has a very good chance of going far, moving to Korea is definetly a bad idea financial-wise.

Korea will have 6 Tournaments + 4 international
Everyone outside of Korea will have 2 Regionals + 4 international
Foreigners living in Korea would have 6 GSL + 2 Regionals + 4 internatinal
Assuming codt of living is about the same (I know this is unrealistisch, nur mit every Pro gamer can live in Ukraine),tell me how it s a financially good idear not to go to Korea
MaxPax
xelnaga_empire
Profile Joined March 2012
627 Posts
January 08 2022 10:51 GMT
#30
Anyone know how Blizzard is still making money from SC2? Are people still buying skins in SC2?

I'm wondering because Blizzard won't financially support pro SC2 forever. They need a way to make money from SC2 to justify putting in money into the pro scene of SC2.
NunedQ
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany235 Posts
January 08 2022 11:37 GMT
#31
On January 08 2022 19:51 xelnaga_empire wrote:
Anyone know how Blizzard is still making money from SC2? Are people still buying skins in SC2?

I'm wondering because Blizzard won't financially support pro SC2 forever. They need a way to make money from SC2 to justify putting in money into the pro scene of SC2.


If they ever plan on releasing another RTS, keeping the scene going would for sure pay off and build excitement for that. Otherwise I'm not sure, but it is pennies compared to what they spend on other games
lechatnoir
Profile Joined November 2016
386 Posts
January 08 2022 12:44 GMT
#32
Let's hope ESL wins over Blizz for a new contract and support that happening by watching!
tommey.liang
Profile Joined November 2020
United States363 Posts
January 08 2022 14:10 GMT
#33
This is really good news -- glad to see that there is also a conversation of keeping the competition alive even past 2023. Atlanta is relatively close to me.
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RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
3007 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-08 17:28:40
January 08 2022 17:28 GMT
#34
But will our exciting top pros keep playing after this year? I'm dubious.

Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain880 Posts
January 08 2022 19:42 GMT
#35
I like the format changes. And let's be optimistic and think that Blizzard will continue supporting SC2 e-sports somehow.
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Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1207 Posts
January 08 2022 21:26 GMT
#36
On January 08 2022 16:47 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2022 09:15 Balnazza wrote:
On January 08 2022 07:23 dbRic1203 wrote:
3 GSL Code S, 3 GSL ST and 2 DH events
Seems like everyone who wants to make money from SC2 has to move to Korea


Last season you got 150$ in Europe just for a good qualifier. When you want to earn some money in GSL, you need atleast to get to Top 24 (or Top 16 for ST and it was just 500$ there).
So if you are not someone who has a very good chance of going far, moving to Korea is definetly a bad idea financial-wise.

Korea will have 6 Tournaments + 4 international
Everyone outside of Korea will have 2 Regionals + 4 international
Foreigners living in Korea would have 6 GSL + 2 Regionals + 4 internatinal
Assuming codt of living is about the same (I know this is unrealistisch, nur mit every Pro gamer can live in Ukraine),tell me how it s a financially good idear not to go to Korea


Again: If you are not a top 20 player in korea, you won't get any money from GSL. On the other hand, if you still participate in regional events, you will have to play at difficult hours and maybe even with lag. Don't know if that really pays out. For someone like Serral definetly, but Bly or PtitDrogo? Probably not.
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
Woosixion
Profile Joined February 2012
120 Posts
January 08 2022 23:54 GMT
#37
On January 08 2022 07:16 vyzion wrote:
I love it all! I've been wondering how to encourage longevity as well and this sounds like a great first step. Outside of a circuit, sponsors, and 3rd party events...getting new blood into the game is probably the most important step. Difficult problem to solve.

Thinking out loud - if I was a billionaire - I'd offer huge cash prizes to young pros from other games to try to place or win tournaments.

I'm not a billionaire and have no money, so just supporting the scene in the little ways I can and bringing good energy are all I can do for now.


i know exactly how they can solve that problem!!! BALANCE THE F'ING GAME lol


the only way out is through...
DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
January 09 2022 01:08 GMT
#38
Heyoka you beauty!
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33432 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-09 12:35:20
January 09 2022 12:35 GMT
#39
JUDGEMENT DAY(week)
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
DropTester
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia608 Posts
January 09 2022 13:02 GMT
#40
this is so great to hear!
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