• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:53
CEST 23:53
KST 06:53
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call7[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3
Community News
New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!22Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week2Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles2GSTL Returns in 2026!45Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7
StarCraft 2
General
SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey! Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Announcement IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WORTEX 2026 - Hungarian SC2 Finals Budapest
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 540 Dodge This The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome Mutation # 538 Media Blackout
Brood War
General
25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! BW General Discussion Looking 4 Yaroslav: Enemy, Korchagin, WCG, Ukraine Pros React To: First 'Fastest' Map in ASL History
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro24 Group E Escore Tournament - Season 3 [ASL22] Ro24 Group D [ASL22] Ro24 Group B
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
The Creator Fan Club MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Young Players Exit Esports E…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3291 users

Lilbow returns to SC2 joins Archangel Gaming - Page 3

Forum Index > SC2 General
91 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
January 12 2021 12:01 GMT
#41
On January 12 2021 07:32 deacon.frost wrote:
Now honestly, what was he doing the time and why is he returning now? Is he more optimistic about the future than the rest of us, or he didn't notice how the European scene looks like


Hilarious. If any vaguely known korean would have returned you'd be ecstatic...

Welcome back, Lilbow!

User was warned for this post
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12133 Posts
January 12 2021 12:12 GMT
#42
On January 12 2021 21:01 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2021 07:32 deacon.frost wrote:
Now honestly, what was he doing the time and why is he returning now? Is he more optimistic about the future than the rest of us, or he didn't notice how the European scene looks like


Hilarious. If any vaguely known korean would have returned you'd be ecstatic...

Welcome back, Lilbow!

I love how certain people know me better than I do myself... stop commenting on me finally, epsecially when you're trying to read my mind and you fail at it.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9223 Posts
January 12 2021 12:17 GMT
#43
Return of the king.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7190 Posts
January 12 2021 12:36 GMT
#44
On January 12 2021 07:07 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2021 06:58 starvingbox wrote:
For newcomers to the scene, who exactly is this?

Foreigners struggled a lot vs koreans before region lock, especially during HotS. During last HotS year (2015 iirc), Lilbow who is a french protoss player became the best foreigner, mostly on the back of his great blink play (during protoss blink era), and was the only foreigner to qualify for BlizzCon.

People thus had high hopes for him, and he got cheesed thrice by Life and lost the bo5 3-0 in something like 30 minutes.
It would have been relatively harmless if he didn't say that with everyone practicing LotV, it was hard to find practice partners or something like this. People started mocking him for what they considered a poor excuse for his performance.

Blink era was over in early 2014 already.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
January 12 2021 13:19 GMT
#45
On January 12 2021 06:58 starvingbox wrote:
For newcomers to the scene, who exactly is this?


Someone that was "good" because of region lock and that everybody suck on like he was going to be the next great foreigner but had absolutly no chance of beating Koreans.

He won one WCS and placed a few time second i believe
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
January 12 2021 15:02 GMT
#46
On January 12 2021 21:12 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2021 21:01 Xain0n wrote:
On January 12 2021 07:32 deacon.frost wrote:
Now honestly, what was he doing the time and why is he returning now? Is he more optimistic about the future than the rest of us, or he didn't notice how the European scene looks like


Hilarious. If any vaguely known korean would have returned you'd be ecstatic...

Welcome back, Lilbow!

I love how certain people know me better than I do myself... stop commenting on me finally, epsecially when you're trying to read my mind and you fail at it.


I know very few of you, I know extremely well how you post on Tl.net.

On January 12 2021 08:44 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2021 07:32 deacon.frost wrote:
Now honestly, what was he doing the time and why is he returning now? Is he more optimistic about the future than the rest of us, or he didn't notice how the European scene looks like

He was playing Overwatch at semi-pro or pro level afaik!
I don’t know why he is returning though, but I saw him tweet about his streams recently so I am not totally surprised by the news.
Maybe he thinks OW future is worse for him than sc2?


I asked him on Twitch and he replied that he desired to stream and that he thought Sc2 was the most logical choice.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12502 Posts
January 12 2021 15:30 GMT
#47
Lilbow is hard because he was kind of monobuild and probably not as good as his results, but he also got shit on way more than he deserved. So like, whatever you think, you were both correct and wrong about him. Heh.
No will to live, no wish to die
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
January 12 2021 15:36 GMT
#48
Imagine how dead Overwatch has to be for someone to switch to Starcraft 2. Ultimately glad to have him back but that's a pretty dark picture
1gragequit
Profile Joined June 2020
31 Posts
January 12 2021 15:52 GMT
#49
Well if he can't even be bothered to post a picture of himself with his new team's shirt on then it seems he has the same conscientiousness as always. Probably will amount to nothing like most of the other talented foreigners with the work ethic of a sponge.

User was warned for this post
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8217 Posts
January 12 2021 18:02 GMT
#50
Welcome back Lilbow, hope it's going to be more than streaming only.

On January 12 2021 19:42 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2021 19:24 Steelghost1 wrote:
I may be wrong but I never got the feeling that Lilbow would succeed in LOTV, his play was always centered around strong 2 base all ins and tricky builds such as going for insane amount of stalkers so he could hit very specific timings in the midgame. His macro never seemed great and it does not seem like you can go immortal sentry/collossus stalker max or just plain gateway all ins anymore.

Good luck to him. It would be very interesting to see how he adapts to such a different apm intensive game as LOTV.


Zest and his bank beg to differ ^^


The thing about Zest though is that he is masterful at macroing up until that point were he just banks resources while doing only micro.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
coogerdark
Profile Joined February 2015
1 Post
January 12 2021 18:08 GMT
#51
I hope he comes back in good form, but as far as lingering resentment toward him as he's coming back goes, it wasn't like he quietly left the SC2 scene for OW. As far as I recall, there were a fair amount of parting shots from him at SC2 as a game while he was heading out the door.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12133 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-12 19:19:05
January 12 2021 19:17 GMT
#52
On January 13 2021 03:08 coogerdark wrote:
I hope he comes back in good form, but as far as lingering resentment toward him as he's coming back goes, it wasn't like he quietly left the SC2 scene for OW. As far as I recall, there were a fair amount of parting shots from him at SC2 as a game while he was heading out the door.

OTOH it would be great to have a good Protoss winning something outside the Korea. And unless HuK or NaNiwa find their lost mojo and fully properly return(which is unlikely), Lilbow has the biggest chance. He was really good back then.

(OK, maybe Neeb can find his 2016 form again, which would be great)

Edit> Like c'mon, it happened 5 years ago, let it go. Also let Let It Go go!
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
hyuu
Profile Joined August 2011
163 Posts
January 12 2021 19:37 GMT
#53
On January 12 2021 05:41 argonautdice wrote:
Does this mean SC3 is getting released soon?


couldn't help but to laugh out loud
jojomi
Profile Joined December 2020
10 Posts
January 12 2021 19:41 GMT
#54
He was gone?
Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain886 Posts
January 12 2021 23:24 GMT
#55
Has he had any success in OW?
My life for Aiur. You got a piece of me, baby. IIIIIIiiiiiii.
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States885 Posts
January 13 2021 00:51 GMT
#56
Never gonna complain about more entries in the competitive pro scene. I hope he returns to form and shows us some good games. GLHF Lilbow!
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
vik7
Profile Joined May 2009
United States227 Posts
January 13 2021 03:29 GMT
#57
On January 13 2021 08:24 Xamo wrote:
Has he had any success in OW?

not that I know of, he's on no Overwatch league teams.
NA player, go KT Flash, ST Life( ;( ) , IMMvp, EGJD, CMStorm Polt, SKT Rain, KT Zest, Bisu, RootherO, Stats and teamliqiud
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7362 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-13 07:16:45
January 13 2021 07:13 GMT
#58
On January 13 2021 04:17 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2021 03:08 coogerdark wrote:
I hope he comes back in good form, but as far as lingering resentment toward him as he's coming back goes, it wasn't like he quietly left the SC2 scene for OW. As far as I recall, there were a fair amount of parting shots from him at SC2 as a game while he was heading out the door.

OTOH it would be great to have a good Protoss winning something outside the Korea. And unless HuK or NaNiwa find their lost mojo and fully properly return(which is unlikely), Lilbow has the biggest chance. He was really good back then.

(OK, maybe Neeb can find his 2016 form again, which would be great)

Edit> Like c'mon, it happened 5 years ago, let it go. Also let Let It Go go!


You forgot a Protoss! I give you a tip:

a vertical structure, often made of stone or brick, that divides or surrounds something


On January 12 2021 22:19 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2021 06:58 starvingbox wrote:
For newcomers to the scene, who exactly is this?


Someone that was "good" because of region lock and that everybody suck on like he was going to be the next great foreigner but had absolutly no chance of beating Koreans.

He won one WCS and placed a few time second i believe


Dude that is harsh! He won quite a few matches vs Korean opposition like JD, TY, ForGG, Rain, ...
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
HuuYiko
Profile Joined January 2021
3 Posts
January 13 2021 07:56 GMT
#59
On January 13 2021 08:24 Xamo wrote:
Has he had any success in OW?


I haven't seen him in any semi-pro or pro game since 2017.
I don't think he ever tried to get into a non mediocre OW level
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
January 13 2021 08:12 GMT
#60
SC3 confirmed
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 7m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech133
ViBE88
StarCraft: Brood War
910 19
Dota 2
febbydoto13
League of Legends
Doublelift3966
Counter-Strike
minikerr118
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King157
hungrybox0
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu403
Other Games
Grubby2788
Liquid`RaSZi2482
fl0m1218
ToD283
C9.Mang0209
Livibee142
Organizations
StarCraft 2
WardiTV968
Other Games
BasetradeTV32
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• musti20045 33
• RyuSc2 19
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21366
League of Legends
• TFBlade973
Other Games
• Shiphtur289
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
2h 7m
Afreeca Starleague
12h 7m
Mini vs Calm
Queen vs EffOrt
Patches Events
18h 7m
Replay Cast
1d 2h
The PondCast
1d 12h
Replay Cast
2 days
Escore
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
GSL
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
GSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 22: Qualifier 1
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
META DYMY #4

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 2
RSL Revival: Season 6
Light Tournament 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

BSL 2026 LAN: Kraków
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Calamity Invitational
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.