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TSL4 - The Retrospective - Page 2

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catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3834 Posts
May 12 2020 22:14 GMT
#21
Thanks zealously for the great write-up in all honesty one of my favorite things about TSL4 was the content the writing staff produced, there were awesome hype threads with fan interviews and the like that gave the whole affair a real community feel. Looking forward to seeing what TSL5 brings!
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
May 12 2020 22:42 GMT
#22
On May 13 2020 05:59 Elentos wrote:
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On May 13 2020 05:42 Bagration wrote:
God, that was a long time ago, the "patch-zerg" era.

Still believe that Sniper and RoRo were the biggest patch-zergs - those dudes patched themselves a GSL title apiece

While he may have never re-reached the heights of his GSL win, it's not like RorO completely dropped off a cliff in HotS. He was a top 2 Zerg in Proleague for the two seasons he competed in it in HotS, as well as by far the best player on his team. Even made a few Ro8s in HotS. I don't think he deserves the Patchzerg branding anywhere near as much as Sniper or a few others.

RorO fact nobody asked for: in 2014 Proleague Samsung almost made it to the year-end playoffs (they finished 5th overall), but RorO was the only player on the team with a winrate above 50%.


Never forget when Sniper beat ByuL in proleague and ruined his perfect round as well as IM shot at a playoff spot then retired forever.
I actually think Sniper could have had a decent career if he just had took the memo and get the hell out of Korea, although switching to HOTS wasn't a bad idea either.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13993 Posts
May 12 2020 22:47 GMT
#23
ah yes, the tournament that made me love creator, and oh my i forgot squirtle existed :O
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19319 Posts
May 12 2020 23:01 GMT
#24
On May 13 2020 06:32 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2020 05:54 TheOneAboveU wrote:
On May 13 2020 05:42 Bagration wrote:
God, that was a long time ago, the "patch-zerg" era.

Still believe that Sniper and RoRo were the biggest patch-zergs - those dudes patched themselves a GSL title apiece

I have to jump into the breach for RorO here. He may have won his GSL during that era, but he was a genuinely good player imo. I don't think putting him into the Patchzerg category does him justice.


This opinion is incorrect

Roro was a legitimate BW zerg player before the switch. I think being extremely good at both RTSs puts you outside the patch label. You can still say the patch heavily influenced his peak success, but it was not the only reason he was great at SC2.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1893 Posts
May 12 2020 23:08 GMT
#25
thank you so much for all of this. It's crazy seeing how young Maru, Creator, and Mana look. That's when it really hits you how long its been. They were babies ;_;
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13993 Posts
May 12 2020 23:09 GMT
#26
On May 13 2020 08:01 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2020 06:32 Zealously wrote:
On May 13 2020 05:54 TheOneAboveU wrote:
On May 13 2020 05:42 Bagration wrote:
God, that was a long time ago, the "patch-zerg" era.

Still believe that Sniper and RoRo were the biggest patch-zergs - those dudes patched themselves a GSL title apiece

I have to jump into the breach for RorO here. He may have won his GSL during that era, but he was a genuinely good player imo. I don't think putting him into the Patchzerg category does him justice.


This opinion is incorrect

Roro was a legitimate BW zerg player before the switch. I think being extremely good at both RTSs puts you outside the patch label. You can still say the patch heavily influenced his peak success, but it was not the only reason he was great at SC2.

RorO just gets hated on cuz he was good
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catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3834 Posts
May 12 2020 23:15 GMT
#27
On May 13 2020 08:09 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2020 08:01 BisuDagger wrote:
On May 13 2020 06:32 Zealously wrote:
On May 13 2020 05:54 TheOneAboveU wrote:
On May 13 2020 05:42 Bagration wrote:
God, that was a long time ago, the "patch-zerg" era.

Still believe that Sniper and RoRo were the biggest patch-zergs - those dudes patched themselves a GSL title apiece

I have to jump into the breach for RorO here. He may have won his GSL during that era, but he was a genuinely good player imo. I don't think putting him into the Patchzerg category does him justice.


This opinion is incorrect

Roro was a legitimate BW zerg player before the switch. I think being extremely good at both RTSs puts you outside the patch label. You can still say the patch heavily influenced his peak success, but it was not the only reason he was great at SC2.

RorO just gets hated on cuz he was good

I'll take roro's gsl win a million times over sniper's, I'm still a little pissed on behalf of ryung
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33581 Posts
May 12 2020 23:40 GMT
#28
In my seminal work, The Most Loathsome Patchzergs of All Time, RorO earns the #3 spot on the list for being the absolute best to ever play BL-Infestor, but gets leniency for being very good in early HotS before he decided to retire
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
May 12 2020 23:52 GMT
#29
Wow, I haven't even started following professional Starcraft at the time of TSL4 (I was watching "helloeveryonethisishtotheuskyhuskyhere"). I pretty much got into watching tournaments in late 2012 (when Scarlett came onto the scene). I remember rooting for Stephano and Life a lot (the non-patchzergs) and defending Broodlord-Infestor as balanced

Also we're all 8 years older now >: (
very illegal and very uncool
Aesto
Profile Joined September 2014
44 Posts
May 13 2020 00:25 GMT
#30
Just watched that Life/Creator game 1. Honestly, the level of play back then was so much less refined than it is today. They both make so many mistakes, throw away units left and right, and the casters just act like that's normal - because of course, back then it was. I don't think Creator has gotten worse, it's just that everyone else has gotten much, much better.
Carminedust
Profile Joined October 2014
487 Posts
May 13 2020 01:04 GMT
#31
rOrO the man the myth the legend the last WOL gsl winner by out bl/infestor Symbol and ruined of many many fantasy proleague teams and the user of Swarm host to frustrate everyone
Maybe was Zoun only Fan before he retired idk
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
May 13 2020 01:39 GMT
#32
All this sniper talk and no one has posted the Sniper ruins Christmas photo.

Also Ziktomini is the most patch zerg patch zerg. Proof? Ya'll didn't even think to mention him because he was so irrelevant after.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3129 Posts
May 13 2020 01:54 GMT
#33
It's nice to go down memory lane every now and then. I have so many good memories of the beginning of sc2. 2010-2012 was such a fun time for me sc2 wise.
Artosis loves Starcraft
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3834 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-13 02:00:04
May 13 2020 01:59 GMT
#34
On May 13 2020 10:39 chipmonklord17 wrote:
All this sniper talk and no one has posted the Sniper ruins Christmas photo.

Good call

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I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
May 13 2020 02:07 GMT
#35
Sniper made Eve cry and killed SlayerS in one night with the most broken composition in SC2 history, then went on to be a champion in Heroes, he's the embodiment of evil.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50696 Posts
May 13 2020 02:07 GMT
#36
On May 13 2020 06:32 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2020 05:54 TheOneAboveU wrote:
On May 13 2020 05:42 Bagration wrote:
God, that was a long time ago, the "patch-zerg" era.

Still believe that Sniper and RoRo were the biggest patch-zergs - those dudes patched themselves a GSL title apiece

I have to jump into the breach for RorO here. He may have won his GSL during that era, but he was a genuinely good player imo. I don't think putting him into the Patchzerg category does him justice.


This opinion is incorrect


lol of all the things here, this is the one that takes me back to that time the most
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StalkyBear
Profile Joined October 2019
55 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-13 02:30:11
May 13 2020 02:23 GMT
#37
Poll: Who is the Cutest young Pro-Gamer

Maru (18)
 
60%

Creator (5)
 
17%

Serral (5)
 
17%

Reynor (2)
 
7%

anybody else (0)
 
0%

30 total votes

Your vote: Who is the Cutest young Pro-Gamer

(Vote): Maru
(Vote): Creator
(Vote): Reynor
(Vote): Serral
(Vote): anybody else

StalkyBear
Profile Joined October 2019
55 Posts
May 13 2020 02:26 GMT
#38
On May 13 2020 07:03 Waxangel wrote:
Young Maru is the cutest

I dunno, Ive never been a fan of wristbands...young Serral however <3 <3 <3
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DinosaurJones
Profile Joined February 2012
United States1000 Posts
May 13 2020 02:54 GMT
#39
I remember TSL3 more than TSL4, personally... but I still can't believe it's been that long. That list of the active players of TSL4 and how many of them have retired... oof.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13993 Posts
May 13 2020 03:04 GMT
#40
On May 13 2020 08:15 catplanetcatplanet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2020 08:09 Cricketer12 wrote:
On May 13 2020 08:01 BisuDagger wrote:
On May 13 2020 06:32 Zealously wrote:
On May 13 2020 05:54 TheOneAboveU wrote:
On May 13 2020 05:42 Bagration wrote:
God, that was a long time ago, the "patch-zerg" era.

Still believe that Sniper and RoRo were the biggest patch-zergs - those dudes patched themselves a GSL title apiece

I have to jump into the breach for RorO here. He may have won his GSL during that era, but he was a genuinely good player imo. I don't think putting him into the Patchzerg category does him justice.


This opinion is incorrect

Roro was a legitimate BW zerg player before the switch. I think being extremely good at both RTSs puts you outside the patch label. You can still say the patch heavily influenced his peak success, but it was not the only reason he was great at SC2.

RorO just gets hated on cuz he was good

I'll take roro's gsl win a million times over sniper's, I'm still a little pissed on behalf of ryung

poor ryung
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