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[Interview] Serral on mech, his IEM chances, Dark, & hats

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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27041 Posts
February 19 2020 23:43 GMT
#56
On February 20 2020 05:22 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2020 04:50 Geo.Rion wrote:
On February 20 2020 01:51 ThxSub~ wrote:
On February 19 2020 22:00 InfCereal wrote:
We always relied on mistakes, that's Zerg's whole soul.


God reading Serral say this is so vindicating. I've been tooting that horn for almost a decade.

it was a joke by him I think

Why would be a joke, it's a general principle of any RTS, certainly true for SC, and most prevalent among races/play-styles that tend to favor longer games

Well it's a bit hard not to take it as a joke when in the same answer he says Zerg never had answers to the other races in late game and could never win after 2019. And that he would have never won anything if people didn't fuck up all the time.

Also the Korean Terrans don't play mech every game because they don't think it's actually that much better (if at all) than bio. And since no big offline events have happened in months, all you can base meta comments on is online cups. And the meta there has some swings every other week.

He’s never generally really been the most cocky person in his answers, in general Serral trends towards the falsely modest camp.

Maybe he does actually believe it though, many high-achievers can greatly underplay their own chops and perhaps it stops them from being complacent.
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sugarmuffinpuff
Profile Joined October 2014
Canada39 Posts
February 20 2020 01:41 GMT
#57
Loving these interviews, wax!
nonoproblem
Profile Joined February 2020
1 Post
February 20 2020 08:48 GMT
#58
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
February 20 2020 16:50 GMT
#59
This must be a bait. Serral's viper control is bloody ridiculous. Combined with his map awareness I can't see anyone reliably beating him with mech.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3505 Posts
February 20 2020 18:17 GMT
#60
Thors are OP vs massive air that's basically it. So you should win with Broods on tempo play, or win with Lurkers instead.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-20 18:27:05
February 20 2020 18:26 GMT
#61
On February 20 2020 02:45 Poopi wrote:
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On February 20 2020 02:34 Xamo wrote:
Very good interview, informative and fun at the same time.

Korean terrans not publicly playing mech is not surprising, in fact I think it is an intelligent move if mech is more powerful. They do not want Serral and other european Zergs to study their best option, and/or Blizzard to start considering nerfs. If it is really the best option, we'll see it in Katowice.

I thought about that at first, but I concluded it can't be that because if mech is really op, they wouldn't bother hiding it since even if the zerg opponent knows it's coming, he has fewer chances of winning, right?
So if terrans want to "hide" their mech by not playing it in tournaments with some cashprize (although relatively small), in fear of it being countered at IEM Katowice otherwise, then it's not op.

Like do you remember pros avoiding playing nyduses+swarm host or whatever last year in online tournaments? I don't think so.

Considering how fast Ravens were patched and how fast Zerg stuff of the last year was patched... maybe T fear, that Blizzard will hurry again.
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sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
February 20 2020 23:17 GMT
#62
why is he allowed to be so good at starcraft AND a god-level troll at the same time? :O
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AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2574 Posts
February 21 2020 01:53 GMT
#63
Serral is the man. Great interview!
Snakestyle11
Profile Joined December 2018
191 Posts
February 21 2020 04:42 GMT
#64
Hey there is a lot of truth in what hes saying even if its just *dont die*.

What he really is saying is, if you wanna become the best, you gotta practice to become the best.

Most players even pros play to win. They do their builds and hit their timing attack and thats their win. Thats good and all until your opponents stops your attack evenly and youre left confused.

If you just play with the goal to not die, you get a lot more out of your practice games. You get to experience all scenarios.

If you dont die, youre still in the game, and youre still getting better practice than one attack ends the game. You practice the harass defense, your all-in defense, your tech switches, your scoutinig, your late game control, everything.

Dont die such an underated suggestion on how to approach the game if you want to get better fast.
Balkow
Profile Joined August 2019
16 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-21 06:59:46
February 21 2020 06:58 GMT
#65
oh serral, after having ZVZ finals every other tournament last year, you now say mech is imba. yea, if we have a TVT final every other tournament, i might believe you. serral and dark are the defenders of zerg, while solar in hes last interview, and rogue when he won GSL atleast was honest.
MrShankly
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United Kingdom371 Posts
February 21 2020 07:12 GMT
#66
Jesus, can't believe he stole my advice. I always give that advice to people.
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AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
February 21 2020 18:33 GMT
#67
wtf did I just read?

Very nice interview, from both sides!
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
February 21 2020 20:19 GMT
#68
i obviously have a much, much less competent opinion on sc2 and the metagame than Serral has. but i just wanted to say, i feel like i've seen mech lose a LOT to zerg lately.
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Tyrhanius
Profile Joined April 2011
France947 Posts
February 22 2020 10:44 GMT
#69
It's pretty much my feelings when i fight vs a terran playing bio. "I'm clueless against mech, so thank you to play bio instead. I'm just wondering why don't you play mech in a competitive game like SC2, but at this point i'm too afraid to ask".
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-22 19:17:52
February 22 2020 19:17 GMT
#70
On February 22 2020 19:44 Tyrhanius wrote:
It's pretty much my feelings when i fight vs a terran playing bio. "I'm clueless against mech, so thank you to play bio instead. I'm just wondering why don't you play mech in a competitive game like SC2, but at this point i'm too afraid to ask".

For people on the ladder, mech is probably a personality trait. People who enjoy playing bio might just not enjoy the defensive and turtling parts of mech
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
February 28 2020 09:05 GMT
#71
So how do we play this mech that Serral is complaining about? I came back to SC2 after reforged bullshit and having trouble with Z, specially nydus swarm host
Justinian
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom158 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-28 18:23:19
February 28 2020 18:18 GMT
#72
Has anyone seen any mech vs Zerg in the group stages? I can't recall seeing any on the main stream, but I haven't been watching the other games. I wonder if the Korean Terrans agreed not to use it until the knock-out stages to maximise their chances of beating Serral? Either that or they don't seem to rate it. I guess it's still a small sample size at this point though.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
February 28 2020 19:02 GMT
#73
On February 29 2020 03:18 Justinian wrote:
Has anyone seen any mech vs Zerg in the group stages? I can't recall seeing any on the main stream, but I haven't been watching the other games. I wonder if the Korean Terrans agreed not to use it until the knock-out stages to maximise their chances of beating Serral? Either that or they don't seem to rate it. I guess it's still a small sample size at this point though.


TY played it a bit against Lambo I think but yes, it's a bit confusing, mech should do good but it's not played.
Snakestyle11
Profile Joined December 2018
191 Posts
February 28 2020 20:46 GMT
#74
On February 29 2020 03:18 Justinian wrote:
Has anyone seen any mech vs Zerg in the group stages? I can't recall seeing any on the main stream, but I haven't been watching the other games. I wonder if the Korean Terrans agreed not to use it until the knock-out stages to maximise their chances of beating Serral? Either that or they don't seem to rate it. I guess it's still a small sample size at this point though.


I actually think they are too scared of Serrals late game reguardless of style. They go bio because they can maybe find good damage early / mid game and use the momentum to kill him before he can get in the position where he non stop counters 2 bases at once with banelings.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55581 Posts
February 28 2020 21:31 GMT
#75
The best mech opener is a BC build which is so obviously telegraphed Serral just blind countered it against TY with a build that was also still okay when TY actually went bio.
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