The official tournament bracket has also been revealed.
On February 04 2020 08:40 afreecaTV.Char wrote: Just to add onto this, it is also due to many of the players participating at IEM Katowice.
This tournament was not planned to be a weekend tournament, but take a schedule more like the GSL. It would still be four days long, but spaced out and not in consecutive days.
It's not just Starcraft 2, many physical sports leagues in China and South Korea along with LOL had to postpone their league in China indefinitely and the LCK + Show Spoiler +
for those of you who don't know, it's called the League of Legends Championship Korea
goes on without a live audience. I don't think AfreecaTV wanted the Super Tournament to play out without a live audience, which is why it is postponed.
On February 04 2020 08:20 GTR wrote: Seems like a bit of a cop out given other Afreeca events like the ASL are running as scheduled.
Do we know that for sure? Maybe they just haven't announced it yet.
On February 04 2020 08:20 GTR wrote: Seems like a bit of a cop out given other Afreeca events like the ASL are running as scheduled.
they still have time to postpone the asl, its only due to start in ~2 weeks :d and i guess halting their pc bang business would be too big of a financial hit so no point in cancelling the qualifiers
also the qualis took place a few days ago when there were only 4 confirmed cases of the wuhan virus in SK
Just to add onto this, it is also due to many of the players participating at IEM Katowice.
This tournament was not planned to be a weekend tournament, but take a schedule more like the GSL. It would still be four days long, but spaced out and not in consecutive days.
On February 04 2020 08:40 afreecaTV.Char wrote: Just to add onto this, it is also due to many of the players participating at IEM Katowice.
This tournament was not planned to be a weekend tournament, but take a schedule more like the GSL. It would still be four days long, but spaced out and not in consecutive days.
There are 15 confirmed case in South Korea already. I also heard news that for the 368 Korean citizens evacuated from Wuhan, 5 of them have the virus. There are also large number of Korean citizens who lives, or recently traveled to China who may contacted any infected persons. Since it is reported the virus can spread from non-symptoms or possibly even non-detected-yet, if they decide to postpone any gathering of large number of unprotected people, there is no reason to opposite it.
On February 04 2020 08:17 Shuffleblade wrote: What, why. The world can't stop spinning just because of the corona virus, the fifteen cases so far found in south korea isn't even close to seoul.
Damnit that really sucks.
If we have learned something from, say the spanish flu, is that we absolutely need to take these things with extreme caution. One of the reasons it was able to spread so much and so fast is that both the US and europe were actively denying its threat level because they didn't want to seem weak in the war. We don't want anything even remotely similar from happening again
On February 04 2020 08:40 afreecaTV.Char wrote: Just to add onto this, it is also due to many of the players participating at IEM Katowice.
This tournament was not planned to be a weekend tournament, but take a schedule more like the GSL. It would still be four days long, but spaced out and not in consecutive days.
Surely it was not planned to drag out that far. The teaser on Naver had the 15th as end date. That's still over a week before Katowice. Can't be near as important as Corona.
On February 04 2020 08:40 afreecaTV.Char wrote: Just to add onto this, it is also due to many of the players participating at IEM Katowice.
This tournament was not planned to be a weekend tournament, but take a schedule more like the GSL. It would still be four days long, but spaced out and not in consecutive days.
Surely it was not planned to drag out that far. The teaser on Naver had the 15th as end date. That's still over a week before Katowice. Can't be near as important as Corona.
I interpreted that to mean that Afreeca initially tried to reschedule to say, February 20th or so, but the players complained that it was too close to Katowice. Hence the move to March.
On February 04 2020 12:09 Solar424 wrote: Looks like we're only getting 2 seasons of Code S this year.
I wouldn't be so sure. Don't forget: the StarCraft year now ends with Katowice next year and not BlizzCon.
Indeed! Also the announcements from ESL's side suggest there's going to be 3 Korean majors.
A super pessimist COULD speculate and worry that this Super Tournament—and potentially more—will replace Code S as those majors, but that would only be speculation .
Well I guess this is just the way it has to be with virus not under control. Looking forward to March.
On February 04 2020 08:40 afreecaTV.Char wrote: This tournament was not planned to be a weekend tournament, but take a schedule more like the GSL. It would still be four days long, but spaced out and not in consecutive days.
What does this mean for Code S? And how are we in February without any announcement about Korean Sc2?
On February 04 2020 12:09 Solar424 wrote: Looks like we're only getting 2 seasons of Code S this year.
I wouldn't be so sure. Don't forget: the StarCraft year now ends with Katowice next year and not BlizzCon.
Indeed! Also the announcements from ESL's side suggest there's going to be 3 Korean majors.
A super pessimist COULD speculate and worry that this Super Tournament—and potentially more—will replace Code S as those majors, but that would only be speculation .
yeah, Cure winning Super Tour into winning IEM is a better narrative than IEM into ST
On February 04 2020 08:17 Shuffleblade wrote: What, why. The world can't stop spinning just because of the corona virus, the fifteen cases so far found in south korea isn't even close to seoul.
Damnit that really sucks.
If we have learned something from, say the spanish flu, is that we absolutely need to take these things with extreme caution. One of the reasons it was able to spread so much and so fast is that both the US and europe were actively denying its threat level because they didn't want to seem weak in the war. We don't want anything even remotely similar from happening again
Vigilance is good. But imo the media is overreacting a lot (as per usual) To put into perspective: every year 500000 people die from influenza (flu). And not many people are making a fuss about that.
On February 04 2020 08:17 Shuffleblade wrote: What, why. The world can't stop spinning just because of the corona virus, the fifteen cases so far found in south korea isn't even close to seoul.
Damnit that really sucks.
While I do agree that the world can't, and shouldn't stop spinning due to the virus, you need to get your facts straight. My whole area (in Seongbuk-Gu, Seoul) has had stores closed for cleaning. Why? Because confirmed patients visited those areas. Confirmed patients have most definitely been in Seoul.
On February 04 2020 08:17 Shuffleblade wrote: What, why. The world can't stop spinning just because of the corona virus, the fifteen cases so far found in south korea isn't even close to seoul.
Damnit that really sucks.
While I do agree that the world can't, and shouldn't stop spinning due to the virus, you need to get your facts straight. My whole area (in Seongbuk-Gu, Seoul) has had stores closed for cleaning. Why? Because confirmed patients visited those areas. Confirmed patients have most definitely been in Seoul.
O_O Didn't know this, thanks for enlightening me, that really makes this news more understandable.
Stats vs Maru, hot damn that is going to be a hype.
On February 04 2020 08:17 Shuffleblade wrote: What, why. The world can't stop spinning just because of the corona virus, the fifteen cases so far found in south korea isn't even close to seoul.
Damnit that really sucks.
If we have learned something from, say the spanish flu, is that we absolutely need to take these things with extreme caution. One of the reasons it was able to spread so much and so fast is that both the US and europe were actively denying its threat level because they didn't want to seem weak in the war. We don't want anything even remotely similar from happening again
Vigilance is good. But imo the media is overreacting a lot (as per usual) To put into perspective: every year 500000 people die from influenza (flu). And not many people are making a fuss about that.
Influenza has vaccines and a cure, nCov has not. Please stop
On February 04 2020 08:17 Shuffleblade wrote: What, why. The world can't stop spinning just because of the corona virus, the fifteen cases so far found in south korea isn't even close to seoul.
Damnit that really sucks.
If we have learned something from, say the spanish flu, is that we absolutely need to take these things with extreme caution. One of the reasons it was able to spread so much and so fast is that both the US and europe were actively denying its threat level because they didn't want to seem weak in the war. We don't want anything even remotely similar from happening again
Vigilance is good. But imo the media is overreacting a lot (as per usual) To put into perspective: every year 500000 people die from influenza (flu). And not many people are making a fuss about that.
Influenza has vaccines and a cure, nCov has not. Please stop
nCov is being cured just like influenza (as in no 'real' cure exists, but treat the symptoms and wait it out). A vaccine might become available, but, as your own example shows with influenza, that wouldn't mean it's 'solved'.
It just grinds my gears that people pretend it's oh so likely to become a pandemic and maybe even the apocalyps. While the evidence (so far) suggests it's less dangerous than sars/mers. Which are pretty bad, but did not start any apocalyps I know of. Of course, we don't know that much about nCov yet, so it might become a lot worse, but that's very unlikely.
Not trying to derail the topic too much, but there's usually a vaccine for the active strain of flu even if there is no cure; nCoV has no vaccines. Furthermore nCoV is not as lethal at ~2% mortality rate compared to SARS(10%) or MERS (34%), but it's still significantly greater than 0.1% for influenza.
Probably a good call from Afreeca. Excited for IEM first then!
On February 04 2020 22:36 papapanda wrote: Not trying to derail the topic too much, but there's usually a vaccine for the active strain of flu even if there is no cure; nCoV has no vaccines. Furthermore nCoV is not as lethal at ~2% mortality rate compared to SARS(10%) or MERS (34%), but it's still significantly greater than 0.1% for influenza.
Probably a good call from Afreeca. Excited for IEM first then!
Afaik the mortality rate of nCov is an estimation, since we do not know how many of the infected not dead yet but not recovered either, will die from it. (whereas the mortality rate of SARS / MERS are known since they were calculated a posteriori)
It's a bit sad for us fans to have GSL delayed since we didn't see top level KR competition for so long, but it's probably for the best to stay safe. Hopefully it'll be solved after IEM and not further delayed.
That bracket is once again giving Maru Stats -;-, foreign terrans seem to be doing better recently so the top KR should be fine but I'm still kinda worried for Maru, given his history in super tournaments... TY will have to face protoss with different styles and maybe Trap, so difficult bracket as well. Cure has an insanely hard bracket :o, if he manages to win ST or even reach the finals, that would for sure prove he is for real in important competitions as well.
On February 04 2020 10:04 KappaKingPrime wrote: Some experts say that the virus will likely become a pandemic and will only reach it's peak in April. Hopefully they are wrong.
If countries are vigilant about it, the spreading of the virus can be stopped. I know it's not fashionable in many countries, but people should get used to the idea of wearing a surgical mask in public (or even better, wear an N95 mask) to not only protect yourself, but to stop the spread of the virus (wearing the mask also helps to prevent the infected from spreading it). And when you get home, wash your hands with soap because the virus can spread when you touch/open things that other people have touched/opened.
Anyways, if countries are vigilant, the spread of the virus can be reduced drastically. And I hope that the Super Tournament can be resumed once things go back to normal in Korea.
On February 04 2020 22:36 papapanda wrote: Not trying to derail the topic too much, but there's usually a vaccine for the active strain of flu even if there is no cure; nCoV has no vaccines. Furthermore nCoV is not as lethal at ~2% mortality rate compared to SARS(10%) or MERS (34%), but it's still significantly greater than 0.1% for influenza.
Probably a good call from Afreeca. Excited for IEM first then!
The fatality rate of nCoV is lower but if it mutates, then that could become a problem and the fatality rate may go up.
Sad for Jinair boys... Maru vs Stats again :/ Trap another PvP? He can pretty much forfeit he cant play it to save his life. And Rogue vs sOs teamkill. Meh At least Cure gets an easy way into his bracket side finals
On February 04 2020 08:40 afreecaTV.Char wrote: Just to add onto this, it is also due to many of the players participating at IEM Katowice.
This tournament was not planned to be a weekend tournament, but take a schedule more like the GSL. It would still be four days long, but spaced out and not in consecutive days.
Surely it was not planned to drag out that far. The teaser on Naver had the 15th as end date. That's still over a week before Katowice. Can't be near as important as Corona.
I interpreted that to mean that Afreeca initially tried to reschedule to say, February 20th or so, but the players complained that it was too close to Katowice. Hence the move to March.
The Super Tournament was planned to be two weeks long, with two play days each week like Code S would usually run. I'm not sure if it will keep this same schedule in March.
On February 04 2020 08:40 afreecaTV.Char wrote: This tournament was not planned to be a weekend tournament, but take a schedule more like the GSL. It would still be four days long, but spaced out and not in consecutive days.
What does this mean for Code S? And how are we in February without any announcement about Korean Sc2?
It's not my place to say, but I don't think you should be worried. There will be a full announcement when they are ready.
So in the last 3 super tournaments (including this one) and GSL vs the world, Maru and stats have played in the first round of 3 of those tournaments and the other one Maru played against dark. That’s rough lol
On February 04 2020 08:40 afreecaTV.Char wrote: Just to add onto this, it is also due to many of the players participating at IEM Katowice.
This tournament was not planned to be a weekend tournament, but take a schedule more like the GSL. It would still be four days long, but spaced out and not in consecutive days.
Surely it was not planned to drag out that far. The teaser on Naver had the 15th as end date. That's still over a week before Katowice. Can't be near as important as Corona.
I interpreted that to mean that Afreeca initially tried to reschedule to say, February 20th or so, but the players complained that it was too close to Katowice. Hence the move to March.
The Super Tournament was planned to be two weeks long, with two play days each week like Code S would usually run. I'm not sure if it will keep this same schedule in March.
On February 04 2020 08:40 afreecaTV.Char wrote: This tournament was not planned to be a weekend tournament, but take a schedule more like the GSL. It would still be four days long, but spaced out and not in consecutive days.
What does this mean for Code S? And how are we in February without any announcement about Korean Sc2?
It's not my place to say, but I don't think you should be worried. There will be a full announcement when they are ready.
Now the floodgates have been open, you have no idea what you ahve started. Or you have and then it's mean you should play the next Joker(or write a script )
Darn, sucks to hear that the tournament is being delayed. Oh well, would've just ended up with terran (already under-represented) not doing well because of balance anyways.
"This tournament was not planned to be a weekend tournament, but take a schedule more like the GSL. It would still be four days long, but spaced out and not in consecutive days(...)"
On reddit, we can see that it will be called Super tournament season 1. It was never called "season" before wasnt it?
At this point, personally, I am 90% sure this means Code S is no more.
On February 05 2020 07:51 Snakestyle11 wrote: "This tournament was not planned to be a weekend tournament, but take a schedule more like the GSL. It would still be four days long, but spaced out and not in consecutive days(...)"
On reddit, we can see that it will be called Super tournament season 1. It was never called "season" before wasnt it?
At this point, personally, I am 90% sure this means Code S is no more.
On February 05 2020 07:51 Snakestyle11 wrote: "This tournament was not planned to be a weekend tournament, but take a schedule more like the GSL. It would still be four days long, but spaced out and not in consecutive days(...)"
On reddit, we can see that it will be called Super tournament season 1. It was never called "season" before wasnt it?
At this point, personally, I am 90% sure this means Code S is no more.
If that was the case Afreeca would be keeping a very low profile, not feeding the hype train like they just did.
Afreeca are hinting at a possible change (that is being negotiated still) that none of us have guessed. The only reason a company would purposefully fan the flames of speculation is when the change is a good one. Or at the very least neutral depending on the perspective.
Afreeca writing that, personally made me 90% sure there will be GSL and possibly even with something extra that makes it even better than before.
On February 05 2020 04:31 MarianoSC2 wrote: Sad for Jinair boys... Maru vs Stats again :/ Trap another PvP? He can pretty much forfeit he cant play it to save his life. And Rogue vs sOs teamkill. Meh At least Cure gets an easy way into his bracket side finals
My old friend, Trap actually beat Classic to reach his first Code S final(and was more than decent in PvP in Olimoleague) whereas his PvZ caused him to get eliminated by four Premiers(twice in a final).
I hope that Cure's path to the final will be easy but I would not count on it.
On February 04 2020 08:40 afreecaTV.Char wrote: Just to add onto this, it is also due to many of the players participating at IEM Katowice.
This tournament was not planned to be a weekend tournament, but take a schedule more like the GSL. It would still be four days long, but spaced out and not in consecutive days.
Surely it was not planned to drag out that far. The teaser on Naver had the 15th as end date. That's still over a week before Katowice. Can't be near as important as Corona.
I interpreted that to mean that Afreeca initially tried to reschedule to say, February 20th or so, but the players complained that it was too close to Katowice. Hence the move to March.
The Super Tournament was planned to be two weeks long, with two play days each week like Code S would usually run. I'm not sure if it will keep this same schedule in March.
On February 04 2020 08:40 afreecaTV.Char wrote: This tournament was not planned to be a weekend tournament, but take a schedule more like the GSL. It would still be four days long, but spaced out and not in consecutive days.
What does this mean for Code S? And how are we in February without any announcement about Korean Sc2?
It's not my place to say, but I don't think you should be worried. There will be a full announcement when they are ready.
On February 04 2020 08:40 afreecaTV.Char wrote: Just to add onto this, it is also due to many of the players participating at IEM Katowice.
This tournament was not planned to be a weekend tournament, but take a schedule more like the GSL. It would still be four days long, but spaced out and not in consecutive days.
Surely it was not planned to drag out that far. The teaser on Naver had the 15th as end date. That's still over a week before Katowice. Can't be near as important as Corona.
I interpreted that to mean that Afreeca initially tried to reschedule to say, February 20th or so, but the players complained that it was too close to Katowice. Hence the move to March.
The Super Tournament was planned to be two weeks long, with two play days each week like Code S would usually run. I'm not sure if it will keep this same schedule in March.
On February 04 2020 18:27 sneakyfox wrote:
On February 04 2020 08:40 afreecaTV.Char wrote: This tournament was not planned to be a weekend tournament, but take a schedule more like the GSL. It would still be four days long, but spaced out and not in consecutive days.
What does this mean for Code S? And how are we in February without any announcement about Korean Sc2?
It's not my place to say, but I don't think you should be worried. There will be a full announcement when they are ready.
On February 04 2020 08:40 afreecaTV.Char wrote: Just to add onto this, it is also due to many of the players participating at IEM Katowice.
This tournament was not planned to be a weekend tournament, but take a schedule more like the GSL. It would still be four days long, but spaced out and not in consecutive days.
Surely it was not planned to drag out that far. The teaser on Naver had the 15th as end date. That's still over a week before Katowice. Can't be near as important as Corona.
I interpreted that to mean that Afreeca initially tried to reschedule to say, February 20th or so, but the players complained that it was too close to Katowice. Hence the move to March.
The Super Tournament was planned to be two weeks long, with two play days each week like Code S would usually run. I'm not sure if it will keep this same schedule in March.
On February 04 2020 08:40 afreecaTV.Char wrote: This tournament was not planned to be a weekend tournament, but take a schedule more like the GSL. It would still be four days long, but spaced out and not in consecutive days.
What does this mean for Code S? And how are we in February without any announcement about Korean Sc2?
It's not my place to say, but I don't think you should be worried. There will be a full announcement when they are ready.
before the start of the IEM (congratz to Rouge) the Date of the Super Tournament was displayed with the 1 March. Now there is no other Info then in March 2020. Furthermore still no dates for one of the GSL's. Does anybody out there is knowing at least something
On March 03 2020 21:27 Weavel wrote: God damnit I need my GSL fix...
edit: And I thought last year was bad when first GSL started at february.
Just the same words are going through my mind since the end of the IEM . Overall i'm a little bit dissapointed about the IEM. Most of the Playoff games were really one sided and quite boring. I love my GSL fix and i love the chat between Artosis and Tasteless for such a long time that everytime the off season is ending it is like meeting old friends again
And now: We have march and i'm totally on a withdrawal.
With LCK on an indefinite hiatus due to COVID-19, I imagine we won't get SC2 any time soon. Before they were playing without an audience too. GSL either needs to host the tournament online or we won't have any Korean SC2 this month I don't think.
On March 04 2020 07:15 geokilla wrote: With LCK on an indefinite hiatus due to COVID-19, I imagine we won't get SC2 any time soon. Before they were playing without an audience too. GSL either needs to host the tournament online or we won't have any Korean SC2 this month I don't think.
So long as they're fine with holding ASL with no audience, I wouldn't be so sure about that.
On March 04 2020 07:15 geokilla wrote: With LCK on an indefinite hiatus due to COVID-19, I imagine we won't get SC2 any time soon. Before they were playing without an audience too. GSL either needs to host the tournament online or we won't have any Korean SC2 this month I don't think.
So long as they're fine with holding ASL with no audience, I wouldn't be so sure about that.
LCK was already running without an audience. Just mandatory staff, coaches, and players.
The issue is transporting players, coaches, and event staff to & from the broadcast location.
SC2 has fewer players and no coaches compared to League of Legends but that doesn't mean the GSL/ASL is safe. If public transport in Seoul starts to get progressively more locked down then any and all public events in Seoul would be under threat of cancellation.