In CS:GO, they basically signed one of their players (aleksib) to a contract extension, knowing he was going to get kicked shortly after the contrast extension. There's no more team chemistry and they're basically one of the most hated teams in CS:GO right now.

For those who don't know, aleksib helped the team achieve some amazing results at the Major (equivalent of Blizzcon) and with the kicking, they are becoming less and less relevant.

Hopefully Serral doesn't get affected by this but it's hard to see how he doesn't. He's part of their team and sponsors are what keeps teams running. With all the negativity in the past few months surrounding ENCE, I imagine Serral is facing some uncertainty about his future there.

InfCereal

Canada1759 Posts

December 19 2019 18:12 GMT

Yes, with Serral's disappointing and lackluster results these past 2 years, he will have a very hard time finding a new team should ENCE dissolve.

Harris1st

Germany7408 Posts

December 19 2019 18:25 GMT

On December 20 2019 03:07 geokilla wrote:
In CS:GO, they basically signed one of their players (aleksib) to a contract extension, knowing he was going to get kicked shortly after the contrast extension. .

How does that even work?
He gets a nice severence check and doesn't have to do anything for it? Sounds nice

phodacbiet

United States1740 Posts

December 19 2019 18:25 GMT

On December 20 2019 03:12 InfCereal wrote:
Yes, with Serral's disappointing and lackluster results these past 2 years, he will have a very hard time finding a new team should ENCE dissolve.

ROOT will probably pick him up.

digmouse

China6331 Posts

December 19 2019 18:46 GMT

I secretly (not secretly) want some Chinese team to pick Serral up and move him to Korea.

ThunderJunk

United States741 Posts

December 19 2019 19:05 GMT

On December 20 2019 03:46 digmouse wrote:
I secretly (not secretly) want some Chinese team to pick Serral up and move him to Korea.

DPG Serral would be OP.

geokilla

Canada8255 Posts

December 19 2019 20:09 GMT

On December 20 2019 03:25 Harris1st wrote:

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How does that even work?
He gets a nice severence check and doesn't have to do anything for it? Sounds nice

That's not how it works. Players want to play and compete and he can't compete because he got benched but wasn't released. No one wanted to pay the absurd buyout fee for him because of that contract.

Https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/ctg5ts/dekay_says_the_reason_why_aleksib_is_being/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=comments_view_all

pvsnp

7676 Posts

December 19 2019 20:58 GMT

Unless you're in a team league, SC2 teams don't mean that much. For someone like Serral who clearly makes enough from prize pools, there's no real need to be on a team. If there does happen to be any trouble with ENCE, I wouldn't be surprised if Serral just went teamless. He's already shown that he doesn't really want to travel.

lechatnoir

392 Posts

December 19 2019 21:32 GMT

Well he still gets salary even if benched (and if he doesn't that's a terrible contract). Talk about players being players all you want but getting paid for less work seems like a decent deal?

Dick move by them anyway if true.

Legan

Finland595 Posts

December 19 2019 21:39 GMT

#10

ENCE is still clearly the most successful Finnish esports organisation. For Serral there is not really reason to switch to other team unless he really wanted bigger salary. Playing on Finnish team probably makes taxation, contracts and other management easier because team having better the knowledge about Finnish law than any foreign organisation. Also face to face meeting are possible if needed without travelling much and there is not any kind of language or cultural barrier. There is no foreign organisation that could promise anything like team house, coaching or sports psychologist, that could be better than what ENCE may already provide. Some bigger esports teams like TL, EG or Fnatic could probably offer better salary, but many of them do not have existing support structure for SC2 players. Korean and Chinese organisations would probably want Serral to play in GSL and CTC.

Aleksib situation has been fiasco and ENCE's CS:GO side is probably too centralised around old Finnish CS:GO players that have key positions in the organisation and are old friends.

It's britney bitch

26 Posts

December 20 2019 00:46 GMT

#11

Dunno what serral's contract situation looks like but wouldn't be too surprised to see serral to at least look around for offers from international orgs next time he having contract talks. Might be very lucrative offers in the air would make no sense to decline.

What comes to ence yes I understood they have sold pieces to active roster players of the org? Similar to danish astralis #1, where all 5 active players are (equal?) share owners. In general it sounds like a very bad idea start selling ownership to active roster players as then some players hold more power than others. Only if they have the same level of ownership like in astralis could it work.

Vutalisk

United States680 Posts

December 20 2019 01:59 GMT

#12

I'm following CSGO scene as well and I find this post borderline ridiculous and biased. ENCE is still the most successful Finnish organization in recent time. They had some good results but couldn't break the glass ceiling. As a result, the made a controversial move by kicking Aleksib (their IGL) while attending to CSGO major. I'm not sure about the contract story but as soon as he got benched, he got a ton of offers including 1 mil of Jason Blake from Complexity but he turned it down. Then, now he becomes IGL for OG CSGO with other good names. Doesn't seem ENCE did anything to prevent him from pursuing other opportunity while being inactive/benched at ENCE.

Changing players in active roster is a very common move in CSGO scene. Happen literally everyday someone gets kicked/replaced. Frankly, ENCE in my opinion is a decent CSGO team but their peak was during the time of some slumps from big teams like Astralis, Fnatic, FaZe and even MIBR. I find their success is opportunistic at best. People love to hype up a team prematurely and then they failed to deliver in consistent matter. Then, probably got destroyed by roster changes due to the pressure of delivering good results. That is how it goes in CSGO scene. Nothing surprising here.

BisuDagger

Bisutopia19385 Posts

December 20 2019 02:44 GMT

#13

OP, you have been around long enough to know the kespa organization and how the team's within it functioned. Stuff like this happened too. Good players under contract get benched and the team has their reasons for their actions that do not always need to be justified to the public. Furthermore, kespa players who left to play on foreign teams were still under kespa contracts should they return and want a new Korean team. My point is, let's not rush to black mark ence due to circumstances we will never fully understand.

yht9657

1810 Posts

December 20 2019 03:06 GMT

#14

On December 20 2019 03:46 digmouse wrote:
I secretly (not secretly) want some Chinese team to pick Serral up and move him to Korea.

I hope so as well but it can be hard for a man to leave his homeland when he's got his own golf land there.

swarminfestor

Malaysia2466 Posts

December 20 2019 03:46 GMT

#15

I love to see Serral abandons ENCE and join JinAir Greenwings or other chinese proleague team. But, it wont happen I guess.

Karis Vas Ryaar

United States4396 Posts

December 20 2019 05:06 GMT

#16

It's arguably wrong but depending on how they negotiated the contract with him It's not super terrible? I mean if they told him he was going to play then immediately benched him then I guess that's unethical but It's not like anyone forced him to sign the contract.

I mean this is literally what happens to professional wrestling all the time. Guy signs deal company won't let him go despite not using him he requests release company says yeah no.

don't know the details of this situation but compared to a lot of scummy stuff I've seen in esports this seems very minor.

DivinesiaTV

Finland58 Posts

December 20 2019 05:50 GMT

#17

Ence have had solid history with sc2 players as they have had Jagelius, Elfi, Welmu and Serral under their belt. I`ve been talking every single of them and no one has said bad word from Ence.

CS division I dont know, it looks strange, but on SC2 side: no need to pity Serral, he is in good hands!