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tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-17 21:56:50
December 17 2020 21:55 GMT
#41
People seem to think that all a good team does is pay a salary. (Good) orgs can also end up handling logistics, travel, interviews, special events, sponsorships, etc. for superstar players - at least, that's the hope when someone signs on to an org.

Especially for someone who's been established with a team for a long time, there can be a major quality of life impact that makes them want to stay with the same org if this stuff is handled to their liking. Yeah, Serral could find a new team willing to pay him to add their tag to his handle - but there's probably a lot more to consider there related to quality of representation/local ties/all sorts of other stuff that matters to him as well.
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mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
December 17 2020 22:14 GMT
#42
That's a great point--but I as a fan (not as someone interested in Serral's mental health) would enjoy seeing him joining a higher profile team. I guess we'll just have to see what happens.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
December 18 2020 01:05 GMT
#43
On December 17 2020 21:09 Legan wrote:
The situation is not looking good for ENCE because management being heavily in hands of former Finnish CS:GO players and CS:GO clearly being their biggest thing. Mishandling of the team is probably heavily caused by Allu, the team's captain, being too influential in decision making. They probably need to remove Allu and some others to gain trust in future.

For Serral this situation can be problematic, if ENCE starts to lose sponsors etc. However I think that most teams can not provide much for SC players, because they do not have many high level players that can be exclusive practice partners or coaches. Most teams can provide some salary and equipment in addition to cover travels. Specially for Serral there seems to be no need for apartment or special training from sport psychologist etc.that ENCE could possibly provide. Also I don't know for sure but I expect that tournament payments etc. are bit easier to run through Finnish organization that probably knows better how to work with Finnish taxation etc.

IIRC Serral's contract is up at end of year, so there is possibility that he could switch teams to another Finnish team or some big international one.


What's up with Finnish taxation? I read somewhere a while back how Finland actually makes all tax records publicly accessible or something. Do they also have a complicated tax formula which accounts for all income worldwide wherever generated and multiple tax breaks (i.e. US)?
gg no re thx
kmh
Profile Joined November 2010
Finland351 Posts
December 18 2020 12:53 GMT
#44
https://yle.fi/urheilu/3-11702922 Finnish news

> Kaiken kohun keskellä varjoon on jäänyt ENCEn uutinen siitä, että se vetäytyy League of Legends -pelistä. Seuralla oli paikka pohjoismaisen NLC-liigan seuraavalle kaudelle, mutta ENCE haluaa tiedotteensa mukaan keskittää voimavaransa muihin peleihin. Niissä sentään kulkee, sillä Joona "Serral" Sotala on yhä Starcraft 2:n maailman kärkeä ja Aleksi Virolaisen entisen joukkuekaverin Jari "SENTEX" Sammalniemen valmentama PUBG-joukkue matkaa ensi vuonna Etelä-Koreassa pelattavaan miljoonaturnaukseen.

Translated :

> In the midst of the uproar many have missed the news about ENCE pulling out of LoL. According to their press release, ENCE wants to focus their resources on other games. At least the team is doing well in those games. Joona "Serral" Sotala is still one of the best players in Starcraft 2, and the PUBG team captained by SENTEX is going to the million-dollar prize pool finals held in South Korea next year.

----

In other words, chill out, ENCE SC2 is fine.
Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
December 30 2020 18:25 GMT
#45
Serral extends his contract with ENCE for 2021:
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Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7162 Posts
December 30 2020 21:52 GMT
#46
On December 18 2020 02:26 geokilla wrote:
ENCE just lost Aerial on their CS:GO roster. sergej is gone too. I think it's safe to say ENCE is shutting down. They no longer have a 5 man roster.

That is the stupidest shit i've read in a while
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8245 Posts
December 30 2020 23:33 GMT
#47
On December 31 2020 03:25 Chris_Havoc wrote:
Serral extends his contract with ENCE for 2021: https://twitter.com/ENCE/status/1344297588904910848

This is interesting. Let's hope it's the right move.
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
December 31 2020 08:46 GMT
#48
It's not like Serral would have remained teamless for long, but nice for him to stay with ENCE regardless
Mine gas, build tanks.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
December 31 2020 12:00 GMT
#49
Makes sense to double down on Serral if CS and LoL is not going well for them.

Good news, congrats Serral and Ence .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9222 Posts
December 31 2020 13:02 GMT
#50
2021 will be year of Serral and ENCE!
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1935 Posts
December 31 2020 14:58 GMT
#51
On December 20 2019 05:58 pvsnp wrote:
Unless you're in a team league, SC2 teams don't mean that much. For someone like Serral who clearly makes enough from prize pools, there's no real need to be on a team. If there does happen to be any trouble with ENCE, I wouldn't be surprised if Serral just went teamless. He's already shown that he doesn't really want to travel.


Teams can provide coaching, practice partners, a salary and exposure, but for someone like Serral, it would really be about management. When to do which qualifier, scheduling, travel arrangements, negotiating contracts, prize money, setting up show matches and everything else which so he can focus better on playing the game.
Buff the siegetank
MrShankly
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United Kingdom371 Posts
December 31 2020 15:01 GMT
#52
Thats really great. Ence really does have the strongest SC2 roster. Glad to see them continuing to invest in sc2.
DONATE SC2 BETA KEY TO ME PLEASE
MdarkKreller
Profile Joined February 2022
United States4 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-02 10:35:07
February 02 2022 10:19 GMT
#53
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