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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33493 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-13 21:42:50
November 13 2019 21:42 GMT
#21
On November 14 2019 05:55 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2019 01:49 Major wrote:
On November 14 2019 01:16 digmouse wrote:
On November 13 2019 19:47 CynicalDeath wrote:
On November 13 2019 18:51 digmouse wrote:
Yeah currently P1 and OG are out of the picture, one or two other teams might not be participating as well.

wait, is Pixel 1 disbanded?

Rumor is Parting and Firefly are moving to DPG. Fantasy's future is currently up in the air.

A LPL team was also in talks but there hasn't been any update on which team it is and how it is progressing so don't actually expect anything right now.

theres rumour that fantasy will go coach a lol team


Oh god no, please just stream BW on Afreeca he'll make so much money! T_T


wanting to be part of pro competition is a big part of why he came back to SC2 instead of BW, and it makes sense that he'd want to coach in LCK along those same lines.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-13 22:06:10
November 13 2019 22:05 GMT
#22
On November 14 2019 06:42 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2019 05:55 Qikz wrote:
On November 14 2019 01:49 Major wrote:
On November 14 2019 01:16 digmouse wrote:
On November 13 2019 19:47 CynicalDeath wrote:
On November 13 2019 18:51 digmouse wrote:
Yeah currently P1 and OG are out of the picture, one or two other teams might not be participating as well.

wait, is Pixel 1 disbanded?

Rumor is Parting and Firefly are moving to DPG. Fantasy's future is currently up in the air.

A LPL team was also in talks but there hasn't been any update on which team it is and how it is progressing so don't actually expect anything right now.

theres rumour that fantasy will go coach a lol team


Oh god no, please just stream BW on Afreeca he'll make so much money! T_T


wanting to be part of pro competition is a big part of why he came back to SC2 instead of BW, and it makes sense that he'd want to coach in LCK along those same lines.


I don't get why LCK teams wants Starcraft players tho, surely after 10 years of pro lol there are more than enough retired pro who know both the teamleague atmosphere and the game itself?

I mean Fantasy hasn't been in a teamhouses in half a decade, anyway good for him if it pan out.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
November 13 2019 22:24 GMT
#23
I would be such a shame if Fantasy retired now. He has steadily improved over the last year, it really looks like he could start competing with the very best. Hope he doesn't feel like he has hit his skill ceiling.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12023 Posts
November 13 2019 22:34 GMT
#24
On November 14 2019 06:42 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2019 05:55 Qikz wrote:
On November 14 2019 01:49 Major wrote:
On November 14 2019 01:16 digmouse wrote:
On November 13 2019 19:47 CynicalDeath wrote:
On November 13 2019 18:51 digmouse wrote:
Yeah currently P1 and OG are out of the picture, one or two other teams might not be participating as well.

wait, is Pixel 1 disbanded?

Rumor is Parting and Firefly are moving to DPG. Fantasy's future is currently up in the air.

A LPL team was also in talks but there hasn't been any update on which team it is and how it is progressing so don't actually expect anything right now.

theres rumour that fantasy will go coach a lol team


Oh god no, please just stream BW on Afreeca he'll make so much money! T_T


wanting to be part of pro competition is a big part of why he came back to SC2 instead of BW, and it makes sense that he'd want to coach in LCK along those same lines.


Wax don't do this to me man you're killing me.

First oov and now FanTaSy, I couldn't handle losing both to LoL. It was bad enough FanTaSy picking SC2 over BW T_T
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33493 Posts
November 13 2019 22:58 GMT
#25
On November 14 2019 07:05 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2019 06:42 Waxangel wrote:
On November 14 2019 05:55 Qikz wrote:
On November 14 2019 01:49 Major wrote:
On November 14 2019 01:16 digmouse wrote:
On November 13 2019 19:47 CynicalDeath wrote:
On November 13 2019 18:51 digmouse wrote:
Yeah currently P1 and OG are out of the picture, one or two other teams might not be participating as well.

wait, is Pixel 1 disbanded?

Rumor is Parting and Firefly are moving to DPG. Fantasy's future is currently up in the air.

A LPL team was also in talks but there hasn't been any update on which team it is and how it is progressing so don't actually expect anything right now.

theres rumour that fantasy will go coach a lol team


Oh god no, please just stream BW on Afreeca he'll make so much money! T_T


wanting to be part of pro competition is a big part of why he came back to SC2 instead of BW, and it makes sense that he'd want to coach in LCK along those same lines.


I don't get why LCK teams wants Starcraft players tho, surely after 10 years of pro lol there are more than enough retired pro who know both the teamleague atmosphere and the game itself?

I mean Fantasy hasn't been in a teamhouses in half a decade, anyway good for him if it pan out.


yeah I can't speak to whether that's the best method, but if you were an ex-pro in anything in Korea you end up being a candidate for a coaching job in [new esport X]
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
November 13 2019 23:25 GMT
#26
Not surprised as WCS 2020 isn't confirmed. Unless we move to the CS:GO model in which tournament organizers fund tournaments and prize winnings (unlikely), I think we'll see a lot more players retire and lose sponsorship.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
November 13 2019 23:32 GMT
#27
On November 14 2019 08:25 geokilla wrote:
Not surprised as WCS 2020 isn't confirmed. Unless we move to the CS:GO model in which tournament organizers fund tournaments and prize winnings (unlikely), I think we'll see a lot more players retire and lose sponsorship.

Well this year WCS got confirmed in like early february?
It look like we should have something next year with Smix anouncement, the GSL CEO statement, IEM Katowice having sc2 and overall the community figure looking pretty confident.

With all that said, it's not clear in what form we will have something if we do.
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knotfun
Profile Joined July 2019
41 Posts
November 14 2019 00:36 GMT
#28
well it's not like SC2 has another 10 more years ahead, clearly Blizzard has other games in mind... it's fair that players like Fantasy look somewhere else for income, sadly. yeah maybe WCS 2020 is confirmed but for his career he would be better off coaching LoL.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-14 01:13:05
November 14 2019 01:12 GMT
#29
On November 14 2019 08:32 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2019 08:25 geokilla wrote:
Not surprised as WCS 2020 isn't confirmed. Unless we move to the CS:GO model in which tournament organizers fund tournaments and prize winnings (unlikely), I think we'll see a lot more players retire and lose sponsorship.

Well this year WCS got confirmed in like early february?
It look like we should have something next year with Smix anouncement, the GSL CEO statement, IEM Katowice having sc2 and overall the community figure looking pretty confident.

With all that said, it's not clear in what form we will have something if we do.


I don't think Smix announced anything. She was simply saying something to close off the Global Finals. Until Blizzard actually says something, I'm not believing it. It's also weird how none of the SC2 personalities said anything about WCS 2020.

As for IEM, it is bound to happen regardless of whether there's WCS 2020 or not. IEM Katowice is the biggest IEM event of the year. For CS:GO, we have the IEM Grand Slam in which the best teams of 2019 will be competing for the most prestigious prize outside of a major. For SC2, it is when the best SC2 player outside of Blizzcon is crowned.

I cannot comment about GSL but wasn't this year's GSL based on Blizzard's support?
WenHe
Profile Joined February 2017
34 Posts
November 14 2019 01:15 GMT
#30
FanTasy!!!!!!
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
November 14 2019 01:21 GMT
#31
On November 14 2019 10:12 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2019 08:32 Nakajin wrote:
On November 14 2019 08:25 geokilla wrote:
Not surprised as WCS 2020 isn't confirmed. Unless we move to the CS:GO model in which tournament organizers fund tournaments and prize winnings (unlikely), I think we'll see a lot more players retire and lose sponsorship.

Well this year WCS got confirmed in like early february?
It look like we should have something next year with Smix anouncement, the GSL CEO statement, IEM Katowice having sc2 and overall the community figure looking pretty confident.

With all that said, it's not clear in what form we will have something if we do.


I don't think Smix announced anything. She was simply saying something to close off the Global Finals. Until Blizzard actually says something, I'm not believing it. It's also weird how none of the SC2 personalities said anything about WCS 2020.

As for IEM, it is bound to happen regardless of whether there's WCS 2020 or not. IEM Katowice is the biggest IEM event of the year. For CS:GO, we have the IEM Grand Slam in which the best teams of 2019 will be competing for the most prestigious prize outside of a major. For SC2, it is when the best SC2 player outside of Blizzcon is crowned.

I cannot comment about GSL but wasn't this year's GSL based on Blizzard's support?


Ya GSL is based on Blizz support (it's been the case for years) but the CEO said "see you next year" (or something like that) so i assumed he at least didn't have any one saying they weren't comming back. I'm pretty sure IEM Katowice also is in partnership with Blizz and even if it wasn't, I assumed they wouldn't have come back if they had heared Blizz was cutting SC2. Also I know at least Maynard as said that WCS was comming back next year.

Nothing for sure but it's a bunch of small clue that thing seems to be going into some kind of WCS in 2020.

We are never protected from another HOTS of course.
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washikie
Profile Joined February 2011
United States752 Posts
November 14 2019 06:35 GMT
#32
On November 14 2019 07:05 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2019 06:42 Waxangel wrote:
On November 14 2019 05:55 Qikz wrote:
On November 14 2019 01:49 Major wrote:
On November 14 2019 01:16 digmouse wrote:
On November 13 2019 19:47 CynicalDeath wrote:
On November 13 2019 18:51 digmouse wrote:
Yeah currently P1 and OG are out of the picture, one or two other teams might not be participating as well.

wait, is Pixel 1 disbanded?

Rumor is Parting and Firefly are moving to DPG. Fantasy's future is currently up in the air.

A LPL team was also in talks but there hasn't been any update on which team it is and how it is progressing so don't actually expect anything right now.

theres rumour that fantasy will go coach a lol team


Oh god no, please just stream BW on Afreeca he'll make so much money! T_T


wanting to be part of pro competition is a big part of why he came back to SC2 instead of BW, and it makes sense that he'd want to coach in LCK along those same lines.


I don't get why LCK teams wants Starcraft players tho, surely after 10 years of pro lol there are more than enough retired pro who know both the teamleague atmosphere and the game itself?

I mean Fantasy hasn't been in a teamhouses in half a decade, anyway good for him if it pan out.


Yeah, on the other hand having some one who has been at the highest level of esports competition coaching you could have its own advantages, even if its a different game. Coaching i'snt just about teaching technique and strategy, although that is really important. Alot of it is psychological. Who better to teach you how to prepare for the big stage then some one who went through the same thing? LOL teams are big enough that most teams have more than one coach so having a guy like fantasy coach your team would make sense.

Don't get me wrong I would love to see him compete but I also can see why this would happen.
"when life gives Hero lemons he makes carriers" -Artosis
kubaPS
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany162 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-14 06:52:01
November 14 2019 06:51 GMT
#33
Chinese Team dispands, new are on the horizon, and you guys discussing about Fantasy retiring and the end of WCS, GG!
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2972 Posts
November 14 2019 07:44 GMT
#34
On November 14 2019 01:49 Major wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2019 01:16 digmouse wrote:
On November 13 2019 19:47 CynicalDeath wrote:
On November 13 2019 18:51 digmouse wrote:
Yeah currently P1 and OG are out of the picture, one or two other teams might not be participating as well.

wait, is Pixel 1 disbanded?

Rumor is Parting and Firefly are moving to DPG. Fantasy's future is currently up in the air.

A LPL team was also in talks but there hasn't been any update on which team it is and how it is progressing so don't actually expect anything right now.

theres rumour that fantasy will go coach a lol team


I hope not, but it should be easier than being a programer at least.
Good luck on your search for a new team.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
November 14 2019 12:22 GMT
#35
On November 13 2019 18:37 SamirDuran wrote:
I thought zest is exempted in military?

Really? Is it a Rain esque situation?
Mine gas, build tanks.
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
November 14 2019 12:25 GMT
#36
On November 14 2019 07:05 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2019 06:42 Waxangel wrote:
On November 14 2019 05:55 Qikz wrote:
On November 14 2019 01:49 Major wrote:
On November 14 2019 01:16 digmouse wrote:
On November 13 2019 19:47 CynicalDeath wrote:
On November 13 2019 18:51 digmouse wrote:
Yeah currently P1 and OG are out of the picture, one or two other teams might not be participating as well.

wait, is Pixel 1 disbanded?

Rumor is Parting and Firefly are moving to DPG. Fantasy's future is currently up in the air.

A LPL team was also in talks but there hasn't been any update on which team it is and how it is progressing so don't actually expect anything right now.

theres rumour that fantasy will go coach a lol team


Oh god no, please just stream BW on Afreeca he'll make so much money! T_T


wanting to be part of pro competition is a big part of why he came back to SC2 instead of BW, and it makes sense that he'd want to coach in LCK along those same lines.


I don't get why LCK teams wants Starcraft players tho, surely after 10 years of pro lol there are more than enough retired pro who know both the teamleague atmosphere and the game itself?

I mean Fantasy hasn't been in a teamhouses in half a decade, anyway good for him if it pan out.

I know right, especially with the recent retirements of many so many high level players in the Korean LoL scene it certainly seems absurd that they still would want StarCraft players in their coaching team
Mine gas, build tanks.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26136 Posts
November 14 2019 12:28 GMT
#37
On November 14 2019 15:35 washikie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2019 07:05 Nakajin wrote:
On November 14 2019 06:42 Waxangel wrote:
On November 14 2019 05:55 Qikz wrote:
On November 14 2019 01:49 Major wrote:
On November 14 2019 01:16 digmouse wrote:
On November 13 2019 19:47 CynicalDeath wrote:
On November 13 2019 18:51 digmouse wrote:
Yeah currently P1 and OG are out of the picture, one or two other teams might not be participating as well.

wait, is Pixel 1 disbanded?

Rumor is Parting and Firefly are moving to DPG. Fantasy's future is currently up in the air.

A LPL team was also in talks but there hasn't been any update on which team it is and how it is progressing so don't actually expect anything right now.

theres rumour that fantasy will go coach a lol team


Oh god no, please just stream BW on Afreeca he'll make so much money! T_T


wanting to be part of pro competition is a big part of why he came back to SC2 instead of BW, and it makes sense that he'd want to coach in LCK along those same lines.


I don't get why LCK teams wants Starcraft players tho, surely after 10 years of pro lol there are more than enough retired pro who know both the teamleague atmosphere and the game itself?

I mean Fantasy hasn't been in a teamhouses in half a decade, anyway good for him if it pan out.


Yeah, on the other hand having some one who has been at the highest level of esports competition coaching you could have its own advantages, even if its a different game. Coaching i'snt just about teaching technique and strategy, although that is really important. Alot of it is psychological. Who better to teach you how to prepare for the big stage then some one who went through the same thing? LOL teams are big enough that most teams have more than one coach so having a guy like fantasy coach your team would make sense.

Don't get me wrong I would love to see him compete but I also can see why this would happen.

I’m not sure what a LoL coach’s job description is, or what the term refers to.

In football (soccer) parlance the manager, in the Anglophone world is basically the head coach. It’s changed a bit now as money in the game keeps rising but traditionally he was the guy who ultimately chose what players to bring in and shift out, the main motivator of the group. Could be a tactical genius but could be totally lacking too and rely on other coaches to do the tactical and technical drilling.

In other footballing cultures the term manager is usually replaced with coach. In American sports, that are structured a bit differently you have a coach that’s vaguely analogous to the British manager, with the (general?) manager in that context being more involved with the business side of things than the pure sporting.

Gets rather confusing :p I feel guys like Fantasy and oov would have a ton to offer in a consultant capacity or structuring training and helping young players navigate the psychological hurdles of being in high level eSports. It’s a nascent industry and basically nobody has that kind of experience.

On the other hand if coaching refers to coming up with strategies and game plans, well I really don’t see what value BW vets would bring over experienced top LoL players.

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
DMadGuard
Profile Joined July 2018
3 Posts
November 17 2019 08:50 GMT
#38
On November 14 2019 21:22 Akio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2019 18:37 SamirDuran wrote:
I thought zest is exempted in military?

Really? Is it a Rain esque situation?


There was interview with Zest and Stats where they talked about getting the letter for their military service. So, as much as I want this to be true...
NaRae
Profile Joined January 2017
Korea (South)48 Posts
November 17 2019 09:25 GMT
#39
Fantasy also retired. Maybe he'll be a coach in esports team.
Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-17 09:35:13
November 17 2019 09:31 GMT
#40
I think the rumors of FanTaSy becoming a LoL coach is probably the reason for his retirement.

That means so far Classic, ByuL, herO, FanTaSy & GuMiho are all either leaving for miliary service or retiring.
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