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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-07 22:28:27
October 07 2019 22:27 GMT
#1
Hi,

With the talk surrounding Classic and Gumiho retirement due to military service, I was curious to see who else was approching the require age for military service.
I thought it could be interesting for some of you to know to, since for some of them there could be only a few more opportunity to catch them playing abroad or at all for a few years.

Also I don't have any real information about the player situation, nor do I have a particularly good knowledge of the drafting system for the military service, so feel free to correct me if needed.
I only based this on the player age, 27 years old is the oldest you can push back your military service, but there's some latitude on the exact date when you are gonna be drafted and call to start your service.
So with that said:

27 years old progamers:
- (P)herO
- (P)Classic
- (P)Stats
- (P)Zest
- (T)GuMiho
- (Z)soO
- (Z)Losira

For these, this year or somewhere during next year they will need to go to the military

26 years old progamers
- (T)INnoVation
- (T)aLive

For these next year could be there last

It's not intended as a downer post, but keep an eye out for the occasion to see them play it may not last forever.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-07 22:40:15
October 07 2019 22:29 GMT
#2
Oups, can this be move to blog?

Edit: it can be in general too, your call mod (but you better make the right choice )
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TaKeTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1200 Posts
October 07 2019 22:31 GMT
#3
I think this might be a nice discussion in SC2 General though!
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GoloSC2
Profile Joined August 2014
712 Posts
October 07 2019 22:48 GMT
#4
Year of birth is the deciding factor, isn't it? That'd put alive in the same boat as the others aged 27, apart from Classic
"Code S > IEM > Super Tournament > Homestory Cup > Blizzcon/WESG > GSL vs The World > Invitational tournaments in China with Koreans > WCS events" - Rodya
pzlama333
Profile Joined April 2013
United States281 Posts
October 08 2019 00:36 GMT
#5
Classic 1991/11/27
TRUE 1992/4/15
soO 1992/9/24
GuMiho 1992/8/4
aLive 1992/11/16
Zest 1992/7/11
Stats 1992/5/15
herO 1992/8/18
INnoVation 1993/7/25
sOs 1993/10/16
Losira 1994/1/11
Rogue 1994/1/13
Trap 1994/3/24
Dear 1994/5/25
PartinG 1994/8/24
TY 1994/9/18
Cure 1994/11/25
Leenock 1995/4/1
Impact 1995/9/7
Dark 1995/10/6
Bunny 1995/9/11
Trust 1995/4/12
Hurricane 1995/11/18
Solar 1996/5/9
RagnaroK 1996/9/3
Patience 1996/2/23
Maru 1997/7/28
Creator 1997/2/23
Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-08 01:26:27
October 08 2019 00:49 GMT
#6
The issue as most everyone is likely aware is that it's difficult for the korean SC2 scene to replace the players lost to military service.

That being said I suppose the easiest way to bring new blood into the korean SC2 scene is to send all the old blood off to the military and see what happens next.
Owner of the SC2 Esports Anthology channel on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/SC2EsportsAnthology
texture13
Profile Joined July 2018
44 Posts
October 08 2019 00:56 GMT
#7
KeeN said that he is doing his military service too.
2019 GSL season 3 was his last season I think.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
October 08 2019 01:00 GMT
#8
GSL really won't be the same by 2021. Even 2020 just losing Classic, Keen and Gumiho is so huge.
Darkness2k11
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Chile313 Posts
October 08 2019 01:42 GMT
#9
I can't imagine a world without Stats, he has consistently been solid on all 3 MUs, which is very very rare for a protoss
When Behind, Dark Shrine
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19300 Posts
October 08 2019 02:19 GMT
#10
The number of silvers and golds among the 27 year olds is crazy.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
October 08 2019 02:44 GMT
#11
On October 08 2019 10:00 JJH777 wrote:
GSL really won't be the same by 2021. Even 2020 just losing Classic, Keen and Gumiho is so huge.


On the plus side if we get to 2022-23 one of Impact-Huricane-Bunny-Ragnarok-Trust-Patience or Creator should finally deliver on it's potential and win a GSL. That or Maru win every GSL until he's literally the only player left in the tournament.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
p1cass0
Profile Joined May 2016
46 Posts
October 08 2019 06:56 GMT
#12
On October 08 2019 11:19 BisuDagger wrote:
The number of silvers and golds among the 27 year olds is crazy.

Well, i know why you specifically mentioned silvers.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
October 08 2019 07:12 GMT
#13
On October 08 2019 11:44 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2019 10:00 JJH777 wrote:
GSL really won't be the same by 2021. Even 2020 just losing Classic, Keen and Gumiho is so huge.


On the plus side if we get to 2022-23 one of Impact-Huricane-Bunny-Ragnarok-Trust-Patience or Creator should finally deliver on it's potential and win a GSL. That or Maru win every GSL until he's literally the only player left in the tournament.

or Rogue Finally the undisputable JAGW domination Unless somebody lke TY screws it, better draft him, Wings!
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
October 08 2019 08:19 GMT
#14
It's depressing to think that many of the greatest korean players will leave us so soon. If we're lucky when they return SC3 will be on the horizon.
kajtarp
Profile Joined April 2011
Hungary485 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-08 08:35:23
October 08 2019 08:30 GMT
#15
So that means all those 27 years old progamers will not be able to play next year? Or the year after next year?
Why so serious?
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
October 08 2019 08:33 GMT
#16
On October 08 2019 17:30 kajtarp wrote:
So that means all those 27 years old progamers will not be able to play next year?

They will not be able to travel abroad and eventually they will be drafted? Same as Classic?
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
October 08 2019 09:01 GMT
#17
On October 08 2019 09:36 pzlama333 wrote:
Classic 1991/11/27
TRUE 1992/4/15
soO 1992/9/24
GuMiho 1992/8/4
aLive 1992/11/16
Zest 1992/7/11
Stats 1992/5/15
herO 1992/8/18
INnoVation 1993/7/25
sOs 1993/10/16
Losira 1994/1/11
Rogue 1994/1/13
Trap 1994/3/24
Dear 1994/5/25
PartinG 1994/8/24
TY 1994/9/18
Cure 1994/11/25
Leenock 1995/4/1
Impact 1995/9/7
Dark 1995/10/6
Bunny 1995/9/11
Trust 1995/4/12
Hurricane 1995/11/18
Solar 1996/5/9
RagnaroK 1996/9/3
Patience 1996/2/23
Maru 1997/7/28
Creator 1997/2/23


Leenock and Keen are currently under the army; you forgot MC(July 1991), and LosirA was born in 1992.

All those 27 years old progamers will be at in Classic's shoes in 2020 at least(or worse, since Classic's birthday comes very late in the year).
kubaPS
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany162 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-08 09:27:04
October 08 2019 09:26 GMT
#18
Black Night is already preparing for the future:
SamirDuran
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines895 Posts
October 08 2019 09:58 GMT
#19
On October 08 2019 18:26 kubaPS wrote:
Black Night is already preparing for the future: https://twitter.com/BlackN_eSports/status/1181241834967842816

This is good news. Hopefully after the elites of korean sc2 goes to military, the region lock will be abolished and korean scene will nurture with a lot of new talents.

Don't practice until you can get it right, practice until you can't get it wrong.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
October 08 2019 10:22 GMT
#20
On October 08 2019 18:58 SamirDuran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2019 18:26 kubaPS wrote:
Black Night is already preparing for the future: https://twitter.com/BlackN_eSports/status/1181241834967842816

This is good news. Hopefully after the elites of korean sc2 goes to military, the region lock will be abolished and korean scene will nurture with a lot of new talents.


How exactly abolishing the region lock will help the new talents in Korea to grow?
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
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