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Togekiss
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada154 Posts
September 03 2019 12:12 GMT
#21
I'm shocked there isn't more (if any mention at all) of the latest patch! I don't doubt Maru at all with the most recent changes. I'm excited to see what he does with the stim and EMP buffs specifically as far as new builds/timings go.

If Maru is in the mood, look out group of death!
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-03 14:35:28
September 03 2019 14:35 GMT
#22
This group is so freaking brutal, wouldn't be surprised considering the past result to see Maru getting eliminated.
That said, prep + patch should do the deal.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-03 14:54:40
September 03 2019 14:54 GMT
#23
On September 03 2019 16:17 Shuffleblade wrote:
Marus weakness has always been groups, since he cant prepare as thoroughly for group as you can for a single opponent.

Since his breakout in 2013 he's gone 28-5 (85%) in GSL groups. Even before he was winning consecutive titles he was almost always making playoffs (I believe he has the most ro8+ro4 finishes of any player?).

People only think this because of the eye test. He straight up plays worse than in the playoffs. But then again recently he's always had easy groups and not needed to play to his own standard.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13022 Posts
September 03 2019 15:10 GMT
#24
Yeah he is very successful in groups, but it's often far too close for a player of his caliber. So people will remember he struggled against the likes of Keen, Reynor, Impact, Super, etc. but more often than not he still qualifies which is what matters most.
WriterMaru
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7426 Posts
September 03 2019 15:38 GMT
#25
I predict some ~ 4 min, 3 proxy rax with stim pure marine builds that will clean up the ladder afterwards
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12134 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-03 19:12:21
September 03 2019 19:11 GMT
#26
On September 03 2019 18:16 BerserkSword wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2019 16:17 Shuffleblade wrote:
Marus weakness has always been groups, since he cant prepare as thoroughly for group as you can for a single opponent. He has managed his streak in large parts because his championship perk of making a player trade in groupselection, therefore geting easy groups.

There is a low chance Maru can come out on top in a group of death, Stats got Marus number for sure, especially in a bo3. Then the question remains, can Solar take out Maru? In Solars current form it is very possible, at Asus rog he took down both Inno and Gumi. Could Rogue take Maru down in a teamkill? Yes, in a teamkill that is definitely possible, consider that since them are in the same group Rogue got Cure to practise with and Maru got.... Rex?

Every single matchup looks dicey and Maru is famed for barely making it out of groups where is the heavy favorite. Im a huge Maru fan and I will cheer for him but it looks awefully bleak.

...
Rogue is the best JAGW player besides maru in the tournament.
....

Trap? Hello?

On September 04 2019 00:10 Poopi wrote:
Yeah he is very successful in groups, but it's often far too close for a player of his caliber. So people will remember he struggled against the likes of Keen, Reynor, Impact, Super, etc. but more often than not he still qualifies which is what matters most.

That's the funny thing, Maru qualifies for so many RO8s even when T struggle yet people remember him not being able to ace the groups like he was acing the play offs
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
September 03 2019 20:58 GMT
#27
On September 03 2019 21:12 Togekiss wrote:
I'm shocked there isn't more (if any mention at all) of the latest patch! I don't doubt Maru at all with the most recent changes. I'm excited to see what he does with the stim and EMP buffs specifically as far as new builds/timings go.

If Maru is in the mood, look out group of death!

totally agree, lategame terran and microing stim bio are both huge strengths for maru and if the patch benefits anyone i imagine it will benefit him a lot
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
September 03 2019 21:43 GMT
#28
I was reading this, realized I didn't check who is the author, but still knew for sure it was wax. I really do enjoy this down to earth evaluation style over any kind of grandiose narativeness.

Also, Maru is gonna win 4 next GSLs, regardless of whether there even is any next year.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12134 Posts
September 03 2019 22:05 GMT
#29
On September 04 2019 05:58 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2019 21:12 Togekiss wrote:
I'm shocked there isn't more (if any mention at all) of the latest patch! I don't doubt Maru at all with the most recent changes. I'm excited to see what he does with the stim and EMP buffs specifically as far as new builds/timings go.

If Maru is in the mood, look out group of death!

totally agree, lategame terran and microing stim bio are both huge strengths for maru and if the patch benefits anyone i imagine it will benefit him a lot

I somehow can't see how he would benefit greatly. I let myself be surprised but I Still think it's not that big of a deal. Until he's at the lategame with the EMP, but he has to get there first
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 03 2019 22:43 GMT
#30
Games vs Stats aren't gonna go lategame. They never usually do anyway
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
General_Winter
Profile Joined February 2011
United States719 Posts
September 03 2019 23:58 GMT
#31
Yeah. I don’t think people have really wrapped their heads around the stim timing change. I think we will see 4 games from Maru, each of them six minutes long and each of them depressingly crushingly one sided.
neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
September 04 2019 02:35 GMT
#32
On September 04 2019 08:58 General_Winter wrote:
Yeah. I don’t think people have really wrapped their heads around the stim timing change. I think we will see 4 games from Maru, each of them six minutes long and each of them depressingly crushingly one sided.


I don't know why, but I didn't think specifically about Maru proxying with new stim timings. If sOs helped him sort that shit out, it could be a total stomp.
Maru | Life | PartinG || I guess I like aggressive control freaks... || Reynor will one day reign supreme || *reyn supreme
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States886 Posts
September 04 2019 03:46 GMT
#33
Definitely a tough group to predict. I think Stats advances, Rogue gets knocked out, and Maru/Solar is kind of a toss up, with a slight edge to Maru.
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
gulii
Profile Joined November 2004
Sweden2795 Posts
September 04 2019 07:14 GMT
#34
I would love to see Stats and Maru advance.

Great write up. I´m ready.
RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-04 08:16:36
September 04 2019 08:15 GMT
#35
STATSBOYS
Betrayed, forgotten, abandoned.
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States741 Posts
September 04 2019 09:47 GMT
#36
GOD THAT's Frustrating!!
'Tosis! You're wrong dude. GUMIHO IS THE ONE WHO GAVE THE REAPER ITS NERF.
HIS WAS THE GSL FINAL THAT DIRECTLY PRECEDED IT.

That said, I love you 'Tosis.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
September 04 2019 11:42 GMT
#37
On September 04 2019 18:47 ThunderJunk wrote:
GOD THAT's Frustrating!!
'Tosis! You're wrong dude. GUMIHO IS THE ONE WHO GAVE THE REAPER ITS NERF.
HIS WAS THE GSL FINAL THAT DIRECTLY PRECEDED IT.

That said, I love you 'Tosis.


also i honestly think serral led to the creep nerf
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bushra1234564
Profile Joined September 2019
3 Posts
September 04 2019 11:46 GMT
#38
--- Nuked ---
Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
September 04 2019 12:24 GMT
#39
Stats you're killing me here
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13022 Posts
September 04 2019 12:46 GMT
#40
On September 03 2019 19:38 Poopi wrote:
I can see Stats playing awfully bad and not getting out. Rogue is in a bad spot for BlizzCon so he might manage to sneak in.

I predict (T)Maru and (Z)Rogue.

Well the Rogue prediction is good, the Stats prediction is almost exact (he didn't play awfully bad but he got 4-0ed still). Hopefully Maru beats Solar in the rematch curse
WriterMaru
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