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ChinClassic
Profile Joined January 2019
19 Posts
August 15 2019 10:24 GMT
#81
KR Zergs are really bad at ZvZ. Elazer alone destroyed all these efforts LMAO.
quis custodiet ipsos custodes
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-15 11:48:21
August 15 2019 11:47 GMT
#82
So Top4 EU Zerg > No1 KR Zerg in ZvZ?
Lambo has been right al along
MaxPax
bulya2561
Profile Joined July 2019
1 Post
August 15 2019 12:13 GMT
#83
5 predictions in the preview, and only 1 got 2 out of 4 correct winners.
The others got only a single correct winner.

Even coin flips do better then that.
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
August 15 2019 12:30 GMT
#84
On August 15 2019 21:13 bulya2561 wrote:
5 predictions in the preview, and only 1 got 2 out of 4 correct winners.
The others got only a single correct winner.

Even coin flips do better then that.

You made an account to post that? Really? But okay, I'll bite.
I don't think a majority of people expected Elazer winning vs. Dark, and Neeb vs. ShoWTimE was as close as possible (and both are a very reasonable pick to win here in my opinion). So yeah, not sure what you're getting at here.
If you're so much better than us at predictions, come and share yours beforehand next time.
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tskarzyn
Profile Joined July 2010
United States516 Posts
August 15 2019 12:41 GMT
#85
wtf soO Maru
Miralem Ibrahim
Profile Joined April 2019
40 Posts
August 15 2019 12:50 GMT
#86
On August 15 2019 21:30 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2019 21:13 bulya2561 wrote:
5 predictions in the preview, and only 1 got 2 out of 4 correct winners.
The others got only a single correct winner.

Even coin flips do better then that.

You made an account to post that? Really? But okay, I'll bite.
I don't think a majority of people expected Elazer winning vs. Dark, and Neeb vs. ShoWTimE was as close as possible (and both are a very reasonable pick to win here in my opinion). So yeah, not sure what you're getting at here.
If you're so much better than us at predictions, come and share yours beforehand next time.



Foreigner ZvZ > Korean ZvZ. From almost 2 year now. And PvP is a very unpredictable match up so I think that was very hard to predict the result of those match up.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-15 13:14:21
August 15 2019 13:13 GMT
#87
On August 15 2019 21:50 Miralem Ibrahim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2019 21:30 TheOneAboveU wrote:
On August 15 2019 21:13 bulya2561 wrote:
5 predictions in the preview, and only 1 got 2 out of 4 correct winners.
The others got only a single correct winner.

Even coin flips do better then that.

You made an account to post that? Really? But okay, I'll bite.
I don't think a majority of people expected Elazer winning vs. Dark, and Neeb vs. ShoWTimE was as close as possible (and both are a very reasonable pick to win here in my opinion). So yeah, not sure what you're getting at here.
If you're so much better than us at predictions, come and share yours beforehand next time.



Foreigner ZvZ > Korean ZvZ. From almost 2 year now. And PvP is a very unpredictable match up so I think that was very hard to predict the result of those match up.

Idk if it has been 2 years, and even though I agree that at least the European top ZvZ players are stronger than the korean ones are, Dark losing to Elazer was not easy to predict. Elazer while good, is not on the level of Serral or Reynor in ZvZ.
Miralem Ibrahim
Profile Joined April 2019
40 Posts
August 15 2019 13:56 GMT
#88
On August 15 2019 22:13 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2019 21:50 Miralem Ibrahim wrote:
On August 15 2019 21:30 TheOneAboveU wrote:
On August 15 2019 21:13 bulya2561 wrote:
5 predictions in the preview, and only 1 got 2 out of 4 correct winners.
The others got only a single correct winner.

Even coin flips do better then that.

You made an account to post that? Really? But okay, I'll bite.
I don't think a majority of people expected Elazer winning vs. Dark, and Neeb vs. ShoWTimE was as close as possible (and both are a very reasonable pick to win here in my opinion). So yeah, not sure what you're getting at here.
If you're so much better than us at predictions, come and share yours beforehand next time.



Foreigner ZvZ > Korean ZvZ. From almost 2 year now. And PvP is a very unpredictable match up so I think that was very hard to predict the result of those match up.

Idk if it has been 2 years, and even though I agree that at least the European top ZvZ players are stronger than the korean ones are, Dark losing to Elazer was not easy to predict. Elazer while good, is not on the level of Serral or Reynor in ZvZ.


I always sayed Elazer had his chance against Dark this the best match he can have in this tournament I think. He has alway been very good in ZvZ and he defaited Solar in HSC. I don't thought he had any chance in a best of 5 against someone like Stats or TY for exemple but in ZvZ against a Korean zerg imo he had a chance.

XiZeL
Profile Joined July 2014
Switzerland92 Posts
August 15 2019 14:22 GMT
#89
loved the write up from @TheOneAboveU

thank you
I watch more starcraft than i play it
Doink
Profile Joined April 2017
75 Posts
August 15 2019 16:57 GMT
#90
Maru disappointing like always. He'll keep dodging Serral forever.
bulya
Profile Joined February 2016
Israel386 Posts
August 16 2019 06:02 GMT
#91
On August 15 2019 21:30 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2019 21:13 bulya2561 wrote:
5 predictions in the preview, and only 1 got 2 out of 4 correct winners.
The others got only a single correct winner.

Even coin flips do better then that.

You made an account to post that? Really? But okay, I'll bite.
I don't think a majority of people expected Elazer winning vs. Dark, and Neeb vs. ShoWTimE was as close as possible (and both are a very reasonable pick to win here in my opinion). So yeah, not sure what you're getting at here.
If you're so much better than us at predictions, come and share yours beforehand next time.


I didn't made an account to post it. I posted it from work so I was probably logged in with my Reddit account rather then my main account on TL.

I wrote that because when I read it on Wednesday I was very surprised that nobody treated the Dark vs Elazer match as one that Elazer can win. Considering all the previous times Dark was knocked out of such an event (Blizzcon or GSL vs The World) was by a zerg player, and many times a foreign Zerg. Yes, that foreign Zerg was usually Serral, but Elazer did it as well in 2017.

On top of that most of the writers were quite certain that Stats doesn't have a chance vs Maru, or at least bet against Stats, even though Maru didn't really show anything good in recent times while Stats won the tournament in Finland just recently, and on top of that last year was the one who knocked Maru out of GSL vs The World. Another factor in favor of Stats was that he is in Maru's group in GSL, and I think in a TvP the Terran player has more to hide regarding his preparations, so not the best Maru would have showed up no matter what. All these arguments in total made me think from the get go that Stats is the favorite in that match.

With the other 2 the bets of the writers were going both ways and most of the betters got a single correct prediction by predicting correctly one of them. I was favoring Showtime in the PvP, but I didn't count out Neeb, so I'm not surprised I wasn't correct on this one.

With Time vs soO I didn't even have a prediction simply because I don't know Time's current form enough, all I knew was that its quite good based on his match vs Serral in Finland, while soO's form isn't great at all as he was knocked out of GSL season 3 in the RO32 and probably didn't take his preparations that seriously. Not having an idea of what form they are I could bet only based of my heart which said Time (I'm not a Time fan, but most times I'm in favor of the foreigner when it comes to KR vs foreigner, there are exceptions to it though), but I don't consider it as a correct bet as all I had is my heart there.

So its 2 correct bets out of 3 for me on Yesterday.

If you want some bets ahead of time, then I bet against all the Terrans today. I think I will be correct with at least 3 of these bets, but I agree that today's matches are easier to predict as Trap and Classic are very bold favorites, unlike yesterday's games where no match had such a clear favorite. There were favorites like Stats as I said, but not as clear as Trap and Classic today.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
August 17 2019 02:42 GMT
#92
On August 16 2019 15:02 bulya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2019 21:30 TheOneAboveU wrote:
On August 15 2019 21:13 bulya2561 wrote:
5 predictions in the preview, and only 1 got 2 out of 4 correct winners.
The others got only a single correct winner.

Even coin flips do better then that.

You made an account to post that? Really? But okay, I'll bite.
I don't think a majority of people expected Elazer winning vs. Dark, and Neeb vs. ShoWTimE was as close as possible (and both are a very reasonable pick to win here in my opinion). So yeah, not sure what you're getting at here.
If you're so much better than us at predictions, come and share yours beforehand next time.


I didn't made an account to post it. I posted it from work so I was probably logged in with my Reddit account rather then my main account on TL.

I wrote that because when I read it on Wednesday I was very surprised that nobody treated the Dark vs Elazer match as one that Elazer can win. Considering all the previous times Dark was knocked out of such an event (Blizzcon or GSL vs The World) was by a zerg player, and many times a foreign Zerg. Yes, that foreign Zerg was usually Serral, but Elazer did it as well in 2017.

On top of that most of the writers were quite certain that Stats doesn't have a chance vs Maru, or at least bet against Stats, even though Maru didn't really show anything good in recent times while Stats won the tournament in Finland just recently, and on top of that last year was the one who knocked Maru out of GSL vs The World. Another factor in favor of Stats was that he is in Maru's group in GSL, and I think in a TvP the Terran player has more to hide regarding his preparations, so not the best Maru would have showed up no matter what. All these arguments in total made me think from the get go that Stats is the favorite in that match.

With the other 2 the bets of the writers were going both ways and most of the betters got a single correct prediction by predicting correctly one of them. I was favoring Showtime in the PvP, but I didn't count out Neeb, so I'm not surprised I wasn't correct on this one.

With Time vs soO I didn't even have a prediction simply because I don't know Time's current form enough, all I knew was that its quite good based on his match vs Serral in Finland, while soO's form isn't great at all as he was knocked out of GSL season 3 in the RO32 and probably didn't take his preparations that seriously. Not having an idea of what form they are I could bet only based of my heart which said Time (I'm not a Time fan, but most times I'm in favor of the foreigner when it comes to KR vs foreigner, there are exceptions to it though), but I don't consider it as a correct bet as all I had is my heart there.

So its 2 correct bets out of 3 for me on Yesterday.

If you want some bets ahead of time, then I bet against all the Terrans today. I think I will be correct with at least 3 of these bets, but I agree that today's matches are easier to predict as Trap and Classic are very bold favorites, unlike yesterday's games where no match had such a clear favorite. There were favorites like Stats as I said, but not as clear as Trap and Classic today.

someone get this guy TL+. hell, fire all the TL staff and just use this guy. as he pointed out he's incredibly smart and good at predictions. while we're here do you have any lottery picks for me? i could use a big win
TL+ Member
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10420 Posts
August 17 2019 03:07 GMT
#93
On August 17 2019 11:42 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2019 15:02 bulya wrote:
On August 15 2019 21:30 TheOneAboveU wrote:
On August 15 2019 21:13 bulya2561 wrote:
5 predictions in the preview, and only 1 got 2 out of 4 correct winners.
The others got only a single correct winner.

Even coin flips do better then that.

You made an account to post that? Really? But okay, I'll bite.
I don't think a majority of people expected Elazer winning vs. Dark, and Neeb vs. ShoWTimE was as close as possible (and both are a very reasonable pick to win here in my opinion). So yeah, not sure what you're getting at here.
If you're so much better than us at predictions, come and share yours beforehand next time.


I didn't made an account to post it. I posted it from work so I was probably logged in with my Reddit account rather then my main account on TL.

I wrote that because when I read it on Wednesday I was very surprised that nobody treated the Dark vs Elazer match as one that Elazer can win. Considering all the previous times Dark was knocked out of such an event (Blizzcon or GSL vs The World) was by a zerg player, and many times a foreign Zerg. Yes, that foreign Zerg was usually Serral, but Elazer did it as well in 2017.

On top of that most of the writers were quite certain that Stats doesn't have a chance vs Maru, or at least bet against Stats, even though Maru didn't really show anything good in recent times while Stats won the tournament in Finland just recently, and on top of that last year was the one who knocked Maru out of GSL vs The World. Another factor in favor of Stats was that he is in Maru's group in GSL, and I think in a TvP the Terran player has more to hide regarding his preparations, so not the best Maru would have showed up no matter what. All these arguments in total made me think from the get go that Stats is the favorite in that match.

With the other 2 the bets of the writers were going both ways and most of the betters got a single correct prediction by predicting correctly one of them. I was favoring Showtime in the PvP, but I didn't count out Neeb, so I'm not surprised I wasn't correct on this one.

With Time vs soO I didn't even have a prediction simply because I don't know Time's current form enough, all I knew was that its quite good based on his match vs Serral in Finland, while soO's form isn't great at all as he was knocked out of GSL season 3 in the RO32 and probably didn't take his preparations that seriously. Not having an idea of what form they are I could bet only based of my heart which said Time (I'm not a Time fan, but most times I'm in favor of the foreigner when it comes to KR vs foreigner, there are exceptions to it though), but I don't consider it as a correct bet as all I had is my heart there.

So its 2 correct bets out of 3 for me on Yesterday.

If you want some bets ahead of time, then I bet against all the Terrans today. I think I will be correct with at least 3 of these bets, but I agree that today's matches are easier to predict as Trap and Classic are very bold favorites, unlike yesterday's games where no match had such a clear favorite. There were favorites like Stats as I said, but not as clear as Trap and Classic today.

someone get this guy TL+. hell, fire all the TL staff and just use this guy. as he pointed out he's incredibly smart and good at predictions. while we're here do you have any lottery picks for me? i could use a big win

Calm down fam LOL
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hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland966 Posts
August 17 2019 16:39 GMT
#94
RIP all them predictions. You tried your best.
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MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
August 17 2019 17:19 GMT
#95
On August 18 2019 01:39 hexhaven wrote:
RIP all them predictions. You tried your best.


Well to be fair the predictions were more reasonable than what actually happened.
SlammerIV
Profile Joined December 2013
United States526 Posts
August 20 2019 04:32 GMT
#96
Those Brackets did not age well
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