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LuftGespenst
Profile Joined February 2018
6 Posts
July 31 2019 18:47 GMT
#341
LOL so funny blizzard believes "Chinese are so good at vote cheating", now let's see which group of people are better at vote cheating. Before blizzard could actually weigh votes based on IP address, this situation will only get worse.
Kalera
Profile Joined January 2018
United States338 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-31 19:08:34
July 31 2019 19:03 GMT
#342
On August 01 2019 02:48 hjpalpha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2019 02:46 Kalera wrote:
On August 01 2019 02:42 Mrliq wrote:
On August 01 2019 02:36 JJH777 wrote:
Damn this will be a disappointing result if it sticks. I guess Elazer is higher ranked in circuit standings but Scarlett skipped an event and wasn't able to play in the first season of Challenger due to playing in GSL. A choice I highly respect her for. Her best result of the year at WESG also didn't award WCS points. Even if they are around the same level Scarlett definitely has a better chance of taking a series off a Korean. She is a more dangerous player with a lot more variety in her play.



To be fair if Scarlett skips a Challenger to go play GSL instead it's her decision and she has to take the consequences of not beeing seeded higher for this event. (and let's skip the whole Korean region lock discussion altogether).

This vote system is derailed so easy, I literally just have to open Twitch, donate 100€ to a famous streamer and ask him to link this thread in his channel and say "gogogo votebomb this guy in, it will be fun".


The GSL situation was a mess. When she chose GSL, she mentioned that it might be her last GSL ever and that was likely a factor in her choice. No one knew at the time that the lock would be removed immediately after.


not true, the official wcs rule book stated the rule (even that it only was for season 1) and that was released before gsl started

also scarlett got a lot of her wcs circuit points from the region locked wcs winter where in the na edition there were like 3 good players, while the eu edition was pretty stacked ...
and she also profits from the basically free wcs challenger points from season 2, i mean if she doesnt f-up extremly hard she should always get 140 points from that ... for the eu players thats quite different there they have a real competition for these points ...

not saying that the elazer vote thingy isn’t pretty sad and bad


The rule book did not state it was only for one season. Every indication at the time was that this was the new rule going forward. She wanted to play GSL one more time before focusing on WCS, but as it turns out that sacrifice wasn't really necessary.

And I find EU region lock complaints to be incredibly hypocritical considering how much EU has benefitted from KR being locked out.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26440 Posts
July 31 2019 19:08 GMT
#343
On August 01 2019 03:02 Flerigan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2019 02:54 hjpalpha wrote:
On August 01 2019 02:52 Flerigan wrote:
To be honest, in a bigger picture this is quite good for Starcraft. Having more exposure of the game outside of the bubble of the community itself can bring more people to find an interest on it, even if you get 1~2 new players of all those votes only, it will be players that wouldn't be playing Starcraft otherwise.

Ideally all the players would have those kind of friendships and the competition would be on high standards. As much as Reynor joked, imagine if PewDiePie actually campaign for him? That would be great for the scene.

On the other hand, it surely will feel bitter for the players that have no such contacts.


people said that last year too (when kela got voted by the br. cs community) but almost none (if even any) of them watched the tournament or any other sc2 related stuff



Most of them surely didn't, but we can't precise to say none. Maybe there's a way to see the playerbase increase from Brazil from that day?

Plus, I meant more the exposure of the game than the event itself, people going like "Starcraft? What's that? Let me check." kind of.

Which would be far better accomplished with a big LoL or CS:GO player maybe doing a segment publicising the game, have their bro on talking about it, explain the game a bit maybe demo it for people and say ‘by the way I have this big tournament coming up please vote for me.

Or publicise the game in such a manner outside of any voting process altogether.

As it is it just feels personalities say ‘vote in this poll’ to their fanbase who duly oblige.

It’s just how any online vote tends to work nowadays, smaller communities can just get trounced by one big ‘influencer’, or a troll campaign can just completely derail something.

Modern social media has whatever catches hold grow exponentially bigger, way easier and faster than used to be the case, sometimes for good sometimes not.

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hjpalpha
Profile Joined August 2017
Germany339 Posts
July 31 2019 19:17 GMT
#344
On August 01 2019 04:03 Kalera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2019 02:48 hjpalpha wrote:
On August 01 2019 02:46 Kalera wrote:
On August 01 2019 02:42 Mrliq wrote:
On August 01 2019 02:36 JJH777 wrote:
Damn this will be a disappointing result if it sticks. I guess Elazer is higher ranked in circuit standings but Scarlett skipped an event and wasn't able to play in the first season of Challenger due to playing in GSL. A choice I highly respect her for. Her best result of the year at WESG also didn't award WCS points. Even if they are around the same level Scarlett definitely has a better chance of taking a series off a Korean. She is a more dangerous player with a lot more variety in her play.



To be fair if Scarlett skips a Challenger to go play GSL instead it's her decision and she has to take the consequences of not beeing seeded higher for this event. (and let's skip the whole Korean region lock discussion altogether).

This vote system is derailed so easy, I literally just have to open Twitch, donate 100€ to a famous streamer and ask him to link this thread in his channel and say "gogogo votebomb this guy in, it will be fun".


The GSL situation was a mess. When she chose GSL, she mentioned that it might be her last GSL ever and that was likely a factor in her choice. No one knew at the time that the lock would be removed immediately after.


not true, the official wcs rule book stated the rule (even that it only was for season 1) and that was released before gsl started

also scarlett got a lot of her wcs circuit points from the region locked wcs winter where in the na edition there were like 3 good players, while the eu edition was pretty stacked ...
and she also profits from the basically free wcs challenger points from season 2, i mean if she doesnt f-up extremly hard she should always get 140 points from that ... for the eu players thats quite different there they have a real competition for these points ...

not saying that the elazer vote thingy isn’t pretty sad and bad


The rule book did not state it was only for one season. Every indication at the time was that this was the new rule going forward. She wanted to play GSL one more time before focusing on WCS, but as it turns out that sacrifice wasn't really necessary.

And I find EU region lock complaints to be incredibly hypocritical considering how much EU has benefitted from KR being locked out.


it was and is stated in the wcs rule book ...
also im and always was against any region lock ...
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mark_lenders
Profile Joined July 2019
74 Posts
July 31 2019 19:25 GMT
#345
On August 01 2019 02:36 JJH777 wrote:
Damn this will be a disappointing result if it sticks. I guess Elazer is higher ranked in circuit standings but Scarlett skipped an event and wasn't able to play in the first season of Challenger due to playing in GSL. A choice I highly respect her for. Her best result of the year at WESG also didn't award WCS points. Even if they are around the same level Scarlett definitely has a better chance of taking a series off a Korean. She is a more dangerous player with a lot more variety in her play.


to be fair, scarlett's got a ton of easy points by playing NA challengers and WCS winter NA, while elazer outperformed her at both WCS spring and WCS summer
Kalera
Profile Joined January 2018
United States338 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-31 19:32:47
July 31 2019 19:31 GMT
#346
The WCS rule book was not released until after GSL started. Do you not remember the whole mess of confusion that occurred with players making vague uncertain statements? It was only after the fact that Blizzard made the announcement.

We tested a rule change for players competing in Season 1 of GSL, restricting them from participating in Season 1 of WCS Challenger. Our goal was to limit the number of WCS Circuit players who would compete in the Korean tournament, but instead it caused all but one of the registered Circuit players to pull out of the GSL competition. That was not our intention, and we are rolling back this rule for Season 2 and 3, bringing the residency rules back to as they were in 2018.


They only decided to revert the rule after they realized almost no foreigners were playing.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
July 31 2019 19:55 GMT
#347
On August 01 2019 04:25 mark_lenders wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2019 02:36 JJH777 wrote:
Damn this will be a disappointing result if it sticks. I guess Elazer is higher ranked in circuit standings but Scarlett skipped an event and wasn't able to play in the first season of Challenger due to playing in GSL. A choice I highly respect her for. Her best result of the year at WESG also didn't award WCS points. Even if they are around the same level Scarlett definitely has a better chance of taking a series off a Korean. She is a more dangerous player with a lot more variety in her play.


to be fair, scarlett's got a ton of easy points by playing NA challengers and WCS winter NA, while elazer outperformed her at both WCS spring and WCS summer


Due to the GSL choice she has only gotten extra points by playing in Challenger once so far. WCS Winter NA wasn't really that easy. America is easy but WCS NA was pretty much all WCS players besides EU. Special and Neeb are both top 4 non-koreans and Time is right up in the top 8 range as well. WCS Summer their runs were extremely similar. They both got second in their groups. Elazer went out 0-3 to Heromarine and Scarlett went out 0-3 to Showtime. Elazer finished one round higher due to beating TLO. Scarlett didn't even play in WCS Spring so yeah I'd hope Elazer outperformed her there.
texture13
Profile Joined July 2018
44 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-31 20:27:58
July 31 2019 19:58 GMT
#348
What in the world happened to the Team World votes?
Edit: I just went through the thread. I kind of get what is going on now.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
July 31 2019 20:25 GMT
#349
That's super clownish. As long as Reynor is in, it doesn't hurt that much(I hope Scarlett will focus to do well in Montreal and get to BlizzCon).
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
July 31 2019 20:39 GMT
#350
would be sad to see Reynor not go he is on fire
StasiekPro
Profile Joined July 2019
1 Post
July 31 2019 21:10 GMT
#351
Elazer <3
malikdopujad
Profile Joined July 2019
1 Post
July 31 2019 21:16 GMT
#352
elazer podziekuj gimpurowi
StarcraftSquall
Profile Joined December 2018
United States196 Posts
July 31 2019 21:20 GMT
#353
This is pretty low down and dirty. My opinion of Elazer (which wasn’t really strong either way) has gone down quite heavily in the last six hours. If you’re good enough people will vote for you. Results should matter.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
July 31 2019 21:21 GMT
#354
10k votes is pretty ridiculous but I guess you can only blame blizzards stupid system.
GoloSC2
Profile Joined August 2014
712 Posts
July 31 2019 22:16 GMT
#355
let's all take a moment to rejoice in the fact that soul was not one of the terran candidates
"Code S > IEM > Super Tournament > Homestory Cup > Blizzcon/WESG > GSL vs The World > Invitational tournaments in China with Koreans > WCS events" - Rodya
narusensei22
Profile Joined October 2018
31 Posts
July 31 2019 22:30 GMT
#356
Blizzard so smart as always been +-)
SamirDuran
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines895 Posts
July 31 2019 23:01 GMT
#357
Lol wtf is happening here. I thought thr commotion is in the korean thread then suddenly we have 10k votes for elazer.
Don't practice until you can get it right, practice until you can't get it wrong.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16061 Posts
July 31 2019 23:12 GMT
#358
wow didn't know Elazer is so popular
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Rebarok
Profile Joined July 2019
1 Post
July 31 2019 23:19 GMT
#359
he is not, just popular youtuber in poland say to vote him ;p
piekarzzz
Profile Joined July 2019
1 Post
July 31 2019 23:21 GMT
#360
pozdro od gimpura
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