• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 17:21
CET 23:21
KST 07:21
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2
Community News
BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion5Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)16Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 105
StarCraft 2
General
Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets When will we find out if there are more tournament SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list?
Tourneys
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes
Brood War
General
Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs? BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion Fantasy's Q&A video [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1247 users

Code S RO16 Preview: Dark, Patience, INnoVation, Stats - P…

Forum Index > SC2 General
34 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 All
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-31 17:24:06
May 31 2019 17:23 GMT
#21
On June 01 2019 00:38 tskarzyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2019 21:14 Morbidius wrote:
''Also, let's not overlook INnoVation's comments from the group nominations, where he said "TvP is bad too, but it's still comparatively okay" and also stating "Games have been going well lately." Anyone familiar with INnoVation-speak and his history of exaggerating Terran weakness will know that translates to "You're all gonna die."

One of the best things ever written here.


The funny thing is, he always seems to win championships after complaining about ladder. "I lose 99/100 to zerg" and then smash soO or something.


Maybe Inno complains loudest right when he's practicing hardest, so people will think he's struggling and underestimate him. 200 IQ play.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
batatm
Profile Joined June 2014
Israel116 Posts
May 31 2019 17:38 GMT
#22
this is the one group where i have no idea how to place my liquibets.
the other groups i had a clue, i could predict at least some of the results, but here...
as said in the article inno's form is as stable as the bitcoin prices, dark is quite limited in his playstyle and patience is a joker who might or might not have used his ace already.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55562 Posts
May 31 2019 19:23 GMT
#23
The problem with taking into account Inno's online results is that they've been really good (the best out of any Terran I would guess) the entire year but it's translated to last in his group at Katowice, last in his group in Ro16 last season, and no Super Tournament qualification.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 31 2019 19:36 GMT
#24
On May 31 2019 13:04 necrosexy wrote:
rooting for all toss winners

Good man.
ByuuN
Profile Joined November 2016
Poland678 Posts
May 31 2019 19:39 GMT
#25
Terran advancing is a bold prediction.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 31 2019 19:43 GMT
#26
On May 31 2019 23:23 Lexender wrote:
The chances of a non-protoss advancing depend 100% on what shenanigans Patience brings, if he can top Dark he will most likely go through but I have my doubts as PvZ isn't as much of a dumpster fire as PvT. I don't think Inno is favored against anyone here, hes at least even with dark.

PvZ is 66,2% this GSL, to PvT's 56%
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Togekiss
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada154 Posts
May 31 2019 19:48 GMT
#27
Imagine Patience winning this group?! Honestly could happen after all we've seen so far this season...
Thermo-
Profile Joined May 2019
4 Posts
May 31 2019 20:01 GMT
#28
God bless Terran.
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
May 31 2019 20:07 GMT
#29
Anyone familiar with INnoVation-speak and his history of exaggerating Terran weakness will know that translates to "You're all gonna die."


Hoping for Dark and INno to advance but considering the Protoss narrative of 2019, that would just be jinxing things

Patience 4-0 incoming
Mine gas, build tanks.
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
May 31 2019 23:37 GMT
#30
On June 01 2019 05:07 Akio wrote:
Show nested quote +
Anyone familiar with INnoVation-speak and his history of exaggerating Terran weakness will know that translates to "You're all gonna die."


Hoping for Dark and INno to advance but considering the Protoss narrative of 2019, that would just be jinxing things

Patience 4-0 incoming

dark n bogus have to advance
fuck the soul train
StarcraftSquall
Profile Joined December 2018
United States196 Posts
June 01 2019 03:42 GMT
#31
Yes, my allegiance is Protoss but I can be objective. I think INnoVation and Dark are the better two players in this group and I expect them to get out. What about a Stats? It’s certainly possible... but he’s taken a step back since last year’s form and it feels like everyone knows what to expect from him. Patience... not only do I feel he’s the weakest one here (not a slight on him - he’s very good but the other three are so much better) but Artosis says he was getting out of this group 100% :-) So...

It also should be noted that despite the really good year Inno is having he desperately needs WCS KR points because he’s sitting in #20 right now and WESG does nothing for his ranking. So this is a lot more critical for him than some of the other players when it comes to BlizzCon.

Inno and Dark advance from my perspective.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10102 Posts
June 01 2019 03:53 GMT
#32
reading this made me believe INno could make it xD thanks for the preview
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
June 01 2019 07:26 GMT
#33
thanks Innovation for giving Terran hope in the GSL,
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
ShAd_1337
Profile Joined January 2016
Germany1042 Posts
June 01 2019 11:02 GMT
#34
ok then
I like Dark
Thermo-
Profile Joined May 2019
4 Posts
June 01 2019 20:36 GMT
#35
Good job, Innovation!
Prev 1 2 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL 21
20:00
Non-Korean Championship - D3
Mihu vs eOnzErG
Dewalt vs Sziky
Bonyth vs DuGu
XuanXuan vs eOnzErG
Dewalt vs eOnzErG
ZZZero.O245
LiquipediaDiscussion
AI Arena Tournament
20:00
Swiss - Round 2
Laughngamez YouTube
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nathanias 117
StarCraft: Brood War
ZZZero.O 245
Shuttle 117
Dewaltoss 103
NaDa 18
Dota 2
Pyrionflax253
capcasts102
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
FalleN 2970
fl0m2017
minikerr39
Other Games
tarik_tv11897
summit1g8090
gofns7162
Grubby3760
FrodaN3745
crisheroes444
Liquid`Hasu263
ToD231
KnowMe150
XaKoH 141
ViBE34
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2635
StarCraft 2
WardiTV839
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HeavenSC 59
• musti20045 29
• poizon28 21
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21128
• Noizen61
League of Legends
• Doublelift1495
Other Games
• imaqtpie2528
• Shiphtur148
Upcoming Events
All-Star Invitational
4h 39m
MMA vs DongRaeGu
herO vs Solar
Clem vs Reynor
Rogue vs Oliveira
Sparkling Tuna Cup
11h 39m
OSC
13h 39m
Shameless vs NightMare
YoungYakov vs MaNa
Nicoract vs Jumy
Gerald vs TBD
Creator vs TBD
BSL 21
21h 39m
Bonyth vs Sziky
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs DuGu
Dewalt vs Bonyth
IPSL
21h 39m
Dewalt vs Sziky
Replay Cast
1d 10h
Wardi Open
1d 13h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 18h
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
5 days
[ Show More ]
Big Brain Bouts
5 days
Serral vs TBD
BSL 21
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W4
Big Gabe Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
OSC Championship Season 13
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W5
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.