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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-31 17:24:06
May 31 2019 17:23 GMT
#21
On June 01 2019 00:38 tskarzyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2019 21:14 Morbidius wrote:
''Also, let's not overlook INnoVation's comments from the group nominations, where he said "TvP is bad too, but it's still comparatively okay" and also stating "Games have been going well lately." Anyone familiar with INnoVation-speak and his history of exaggerating Terran weakness will know that translates to "You're all gonna die."

One of the best things ever written here.


The funny thing is, he always seems to win championships after complaining about ladder. "I lose 99/100 to zerg" and then smash soO or something.


Maybe Inno complains loudest right when he's practicing hardest, so people will think he's struggling and underestimate him. 200 IQ play.
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batatm
Profile Joined June 2014
Israel116 Posts
May 31 2019 17:38 GMT
#22
this is the one group where i have no idea how to place my liquibets.
the other groups i had a clue, i could predict at least some of the results, but here...
as said in the article inno's form is as stable as the bitcoin prices, dark is quite limited in his playstyle and patience is a joker who might or might not have used his ace already.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
May 31 2019 19:23 GMT
#23
The problem with taking into account Inno's online results is that they've been really good (the best out of any Terran I would guess) the entire year but it's translated to last in his group at Katowice, last in his group in Ro16 last season, and no Super Tournament qualification.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 31 2019 19:36 GMT
#24
On May 31 2019 13:04 necrosexy wrote:
rooting for all toss winners

Good man.
ByuuN
Profile Joined November 2016
Poland678 Posts
May 31 2019 19:39 GMT
#25
Terran advancing is a bold prediction.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 31 2019 19:43 GMT
#26
On May 31 2019 23:23 Lexender wrote:
The chances of a non-protoss advancing depend 100% on what shenanigans Patience brings, if he can top Dark he will most likely go through but I have my doubts as PvZ isn't as much of a dumpster fire as PvT. I don't think Inno is favored against anyone here, hes at least even with dark.

PvZ is 66,2% this GSL, to PvT's 56%
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Togekiss
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada154 Posts
May 31 2019 19:48 GMT
#27
Imagine Patience winning this group?! Honestly could happen after all we've seen so far this season...
Thermo-
Profile Joined May 2019
4 Posts
May 31 2019 20:01 GMT
#28
God bless Terran.
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
May 31 2019 20:07 GMT
#29
Anyone familiar with INnoVation-speak and his history of exaggerating Terran weakness will know that translates to "You're all gonna die."


Hoping for Dark and INno to advance but considering the Protoss narrative of 2019, that would just be jinxing things

Patience 4-0 incoming
Mine gas, build tanks.
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
May 31 2019 23:37 GMT
#30
On June 01 2019 05:07 Akio wrote:
Show nested quote +
Anyone familiar with INnoVation-speak and his history of exaggerating Terran weakness will know that translates to "You're all gonna die."


Hoping for Dark and INno to advance but considering the Protoss narrative of 2019, that would just be jinxing things

Patience 4-0 incoming

dark n bogus have to advance
fuck the soul train
StarcraftSquall
Profile Joined December 2018
United States196 Posts
June 01 2019 03:42 GMT
#31
Yes, my allegiance is Protoss but I can be objective. I think INnoVation and Dark are the better two players in this group and I expect them to get out. What about a Stats? It’s certainly possible... but he’s taken a step back since last year’s form and it feels like everyone knows what to expect from him. Patience... not only do I feel he’s the weakest one here (not a slight on him - he’s very good but the other three are so much better) but Artosis says he was getting out of this group 100% :-) So...

It also should be noted that despite the really good year Inno is having he desperately needs WCS KR points because he’s sitting in #20 right now and WESG does nothing for his ranking. So this is a lot more critical for him than some of the other players when it comes to BlizzCon.

Inno and Dark advance from my perspective.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10097 Posts
June 01 2019 03:53 GMT
#32
reading this made me believe INno could make it xD thanks for the preview
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
June 01 2019 07:26 GMT
#33
thanks Innovation for giving Terran hope in the GSL,
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
ShAd_1337
Profile Joined January 2016
Germany1042 Posts
June 01 2019 11:02 GMT
#34
ok then
I like Dark
Thermo-
Profile Joined May 2019
4 Posts
June 01 2019 20:36 GMT
#35
Good job, Innovation!
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