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Code S RO16 Preview: Dark, herO, Cure, Dear

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Code S RO16 Preview: Dark, herO, Cure, Dear

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March 21st, 2019 16:58 GMT

Code S RO16 - Group B Preview:
Dark, herO, cure, Dear

by TheOneAboveU

Sunday, Mar 24 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

We conclude the Round of 16 of GSL Code S with some decidedly personal affairs. Were this a crime story, we’d see the members of Group B as a strongly connected circle of string on the evidence-plastered wall of the detective’s office: So, who slighted whom? Who has the best motive for revenge? And, most importantly, who’s the most capable murderer here?

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2019 Global StarCraft II League: Code S Season 1


As far as 2019 goes, Code S is really the only thing going well for Cure so far. He qualified by beating two of his present group members in Dark and herO, and then went on to eliminate MC and Stats in the Round of 32, thereby gaining some strong TvP credentials.

Outside of Code S, however, the Jin Air player could not impress in the same manner: A great deal of online losses mar his record, but even greater weigh his offline defeats at Katowice, where he was eliminated during the round of 76 at the hands of Namshar and HeRoMaRinE. So, being sent a long flight back home after merely playing three series of StarCraft 2, Cure has had nothing to do other than look to this group and prepare for about three weeks. That should make Cure's adversaries pause for a moment, despite his recent losses. Jin Air Green Wings players are notorious for their meticulous preparation, being the last team with a functioning KeSPA-style house and organization (even though the end-result can be merely "proxy 2-rax"). Cure has at his side some of the most dangerous and smartest players of every race. He even got to decide the final make-up of this group, persuading Maru to switch in herO for Bunny, so he must be confident in his abilities to defeat the Protoss player again. That, or he simply enjoyed building a group with only four-letter names in it. Cure, despite being the man with the weakest pedigree and least titles in this group, has managed to be in control here, duping Dark’s group selection plans. We can be sure he’s planned to dupe a few other expectations as well.

The man switched into the group at the behest of Cure, herO, is in an interesting spot after his top 4 run at IEM Katowice. On paper, the Protoss player is getting his best results since he won a GSL Super Tournament and achieved several second place finishes in 2017. Looking at his recent run more closely, however, we find a bunch of mistake-ridden, scrappy PvP series that might not mean much in the big picture. What are we to make of them? Sure, Dear, one of herO’s IEM victims, is in this very group. But will he really be duped by herO’s chaotic PvP style again, or will he be ready for it this time? Winning the OlimoLeague February Finals over soO, INnoVation, and TY only two days after Katowice certainly enhances herO's credibility in other match-ups, but overall he is not a favorite here—especially considering that the last time he advanced from the round of 16 in Code S was two years ago. Since then, herO has been unable to reach the top 8, no matter how well he's performed elsewhere. In a way, herO's in the position of being the newcomer again, who needs to prove himself against most accomplished foes.

The other Protoss of the group, Dear, heavily argued against Bunny leaving their group during the selection ceremony—and it’s fairly obvious why after seeing how he dismantled Terrans in Katowice. Dear's match against Bunny—just one of this seven wins against Terran in Poland (with a perfect 14-0 map score)—demonstrated his ability to really take the measure of his opponent’s play-style and develop the perfect counter. Dear played into Bunny’s drop-heavy, multitasking-oriented style and left gaps for Bunny to drop into, before closing the trap to simply net up the drops and leave no survivors to tell the tale. Dear played the player just as much as he played the match-up. This is why his potential PvP series against herO may go very differently than the one in Poland. It’s also why his other matches against Cure, and the potential one against Dark, could be very interesting affairs. As we’ve seen repeatedly with Maru recently, the Jin Air Terrans can be figured out and defeated, despite their fantastic control and speed. Dark and Dear already had a close-cut meeting in the GSL qualifiers, which Dark managed to win 2-1, so Dear is certainly a danger to him. Stats showed the world how to beat Dark in a PvZ. Dear is fantastic at the preparation game, and with how much time he now had for this group, his opponents should be very careful indeed.

The only player of the group to not only play in Katowice but also at WESG in China is Dark. The ever-confident one is probably not very happy with his latest expeditions: another top 4 finish in Poland was followed by a top 8 exit at WESG, where Dark once more lost to Serral after looking dominating up until their quarterfinal match. All in all, Dark is in quite a similar position as last year. He did better at IEM this time around, but lost earlier at WESG. Still, for someone as hungry for success and as confident as Dark, everything below the very top spot is simply not enough. While he's undoubtedly been a top three Zerg for all of LotV, he hasn’t won a title for three years now. Dark’s ability to keep up his high confidence despite the relative lack of success is truly marvelous. And it’s all quite warranted: Dark never truly looks bad in his losses, while sometimes looking absolutely stunning in his victories. Perhaps that's what allows him to keep up his image so easily and so believably.

Predictions

So, all in all, what are we to make of this group? Well, the first and most important thing: this has the potential to be quite entertaining indeed. Cure and Dear bring cold and calculated preparation with them, herO on the other hand is—for the moment—aggression incarnate. And Dark, incited by his recent shortcomings, is the avenging wraith haunting them all. Having finally managed to not put together a group of death for himself, but still being duped by Cure and Maru, he looks on course to advance into the playoffs of Code S once more.

Dark 2:1 herO
Dear 2:1 Cure
Dark 2:1 Dear
herO 2:1 Cure
Dear 2:1 herO

Dark and Dear to advance.




Credits and acknowledgements

Writer: TheOneAboveU
Editor: Wax
Images: AfreecaTV
Statistics: Aligulac.com
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EEk1TwEEk
Profile Joined June 2017
Russian Federation186 Posts
March 21 2019 17:42 GMT
#2
I think Dark and Cure, I also think that Dark will do his best to advance in second place
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MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
March 21 2019 18:19 GMT
#3
I heard that herO is actually really really good nowadays, destroying the Korean ladder. And looks unstoppable in all machtups. Can someone confirm this?

Still think Dark will prove too much for him, but if he is really that good now then I definitely bet on him to advance.

Dear with his PvP does not stand a chance if he is to face herO...
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lululuLala
Profile Joined July 2018
Hungary13 Posts
March 21 2019 18:33 GMT
#4
On March 22 2019 03:19 MarianoSC2 wrote:
I heard that herO is actually really really good nowadays, destroying the Korean ladder. And looks unstoppable in all machtups. Can someone confirm this?



Well, in his latest "interview" to Ragnarok herO said that he's 1st or 2nd in Korean ladder currently and claims that he's back to CJ Entus form. Though, if everything that players claim was true, Dark would be several times world champion

Anyway, my heart is with Dark and herO advancing
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 21 2019 18:56 GMT
#5
I think this is actually a pretty interesting group, I'm thinking it will probably be Dark and then one of Dear or herO but maybe Cure can show up big
Russano
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
March 21 2019 18:57 GMT
#6
Interesting groups. Not at all confident in my predictions.

Dark - is great. Has easily been the most consistent Korean Zerg in the last year+. He only seems to lose to the very best player of a race and his recent form seems very solid.I would be tremendously surprised if he dropped a series, much less two.

herO -has been in good form lately. I watch Korean Protoss streams constantly and he's perennially been 6700-7k and has been doing work on the ladder and he certainly seemed to be playing alot more than last year. His style however is particularly well suited to ladder so he's probably a little inflated there and his play has looked shaky at moments. I expect him to make it out of the group.

Cure - has a solid but not worldbreaking TvP so if there was ever a time for him to make it out of the Ro16 it's now. Unfortunately for him all 3 of his opponents are in better form than they have been recently so I don't think he will actually do well here.

Dear - Minor Resurgence from Dear in recent months. He's certainly strong enough to make it out of the group,even over Dark, but the incosistencies in Dear and in this group do not make me confident that he actually will. I think Dark and whoever wins the pvp between HerO and Dear will make it out.

Dark > herO
Dear > Cure
Dark > Dear
herO > Cure
herO > Dear

Dark and herO advance.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 21 2019 20:10 GMT
#7
Dark, Cure, herO, Dear - my heart choice. Just to piss off every Terran on the b.net, because with 4 Terrans in the RO8 if would be legendary how you can't whine

Dark, herO, Dear/Cure probably this way, but I have no clue how bad/good is herO nowadays, so it can go Dark, Dear, Cure, herO.
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
March 21 2019 22:45 GMT
#8
I see Dark and herO advancing considering their recent form and the matchups they have to play; Dear was unstoppable against Terran, it should be grim for Cure(who may actually beat herO).
mtgrooster
Profile Joined November 2018
12 Posts
March 21 2019 23:09 GMT
#9
On March 22 2019 02:42 EEk1TwEEk wrote:
I think Dark and Cure, I also think that Dark will do his best to advance in second place


So, the guy who gets out first in this group gets to face Maru.

The guy who advances 2nd in this group gets Bunny.

Is it actually insane to concede the winners match?

Russano
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
March 21 2019 23:47 GMT
#10
Nobody will ever concede a match to get a "better" seeding placement unless their slot was still guaranteed. In this case it is not.
BadHabits
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada45 Posts
March 22 2019 00:07 GMT
#11
bunny is playing really good right now... i wouldn't want to face either of them
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Uberfather
Profile Joined June 2017
272 Posts
March 22 2019 01:46 GMT
#12
On March 22 2019 03:19 MarianoSC2 wrote:
I heard that herO is actually really really good nowadays, destroying the Korean ladder. And looks unstoppable in all machtups. Can someone confirm this?

Still think Dark will prove too much for him, but if he is really that good now then I definitely bet on him to advance.

Dear with his PvP does not stand a chance if he is to face herO...


he definitively has the potential with his skills
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
March 22 2019 03:16 GMT
#13
On March 22 2019 03:19 MarianoSC2 wrote:
I heard that herO is actually really really good nowadays, destroying the Korean ladder. And looks unstoppable in all machtups. Can someone confirm this?

Still think Dark will prove too much for him, but if he is really that good now then I definitely bet on him to advance.

Dear with his PvP does not stand a chance if he is to face herO...


every game ive seen of him recently, he looks extremely sharp. I wouldnt call it unstoppable though. It sometimes looks unstoppable because he's playing very aggressively like the OP stated
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StarcraftSquall
Profile Joined December 2018
United States196 Posts
March 22 2019 03:31 GMT
#14
On March 22 2019 08:09 mtgrooster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2019 02:42 EEk1TwEEk wrote:
I think Dark and Cure, I also think that Dark will do his best to advance in second place


So, the guy who gets out first in this group gets to face Maru.

The guy who advances 2nd in this group gets Bunny.

Is it actually insane to concede the winners match?



I was thinking the same thing! But is it asinine to ask the following question as well: How good IS Maru right now? 🤔
MoonyD
Profile Joined December 2013
Australia191 Posts
March 22 2019 06:31 GMT
#15
Poor Dark even though he's consistently considered to be one of the best Korean Zergs, he rarely gets into an the finals and win a title. I wouldn't be surprised to see Dear come out first in this group, he's normally pretty solid in bo3 series when it comes to GSL's ro16.

Between Dark, Cure and herO though that's a tough call. Dark is probably the 'better' player, but Cure has had plenty of time to prepare plus he has a team house to support him. Only way herO makes it out alive is he plays ultra-aggressive again and catches his opponents off-guard.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19299 Posts
March 22 2019 12:16 GMT
#16
herO has looked his best in a long while, but so has dear. It's pretty exciting to see those two back in form. Dark could be upset if he doesn't play his best.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
March 22 2019 13:06 GMT
#17
On March 22 2019 01:58 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Jin Air Terrans can be figured out and defeated, despite their fantastic control and speed.

Those are definitely not the traits by which I would consider defining Cure as a player.
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Popparockz
Profile Joined April 2011
United States40 Posts
March 22 2019 15:33 GMT
#18
This group is so weird though because of maru getting second in his group. The winner of the group has to play maru while the 2nd place of the group gets to play bunny who is arguably the worst player in the top 8.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
March 22 2019 15:38 GMT
#19
On March 23 2019 00:33 Popparockz wrote:
This group is so weird though because of maru getting second in his group. The winner of the group has to play maru while the 2nd place of the group gets to play bunny who is arguably the worst player in the top 8.

And yet Bunny won his group while Maru was on the cusp of not getting out of it at all. Maybe Bunny was overperforming and will be brought back down to Earth next week, but Maru's form deserves to be called into question as well.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19299 Posts
March 22 2019 15:56 GMT
#20
On March 22 2019 22:06 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2019 01:58 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Jin Air Terrans can be figured out and defeated, despite their fantastic control and speed.

Those are definitely not the traits by which I would consider defining Cure as a player.

His alias is Speed. Can't argue with an alias.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
March 22 2019 16:11 GMT
#21
On March 23 2019 00:56 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2019 22:06 Elentos wrote:
On March 22 2019 01:58 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Jin Air Terrans can be figured out and defeated, despite their fantastic control and speed.

Those are definitely not the traits by which I would consider defining Cure as a player.

His alias is Speed. Can't argue with an alias.

There's a reason he gave up on it.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
March 22 2019 16:27 GMT
#22
That, or he simply enjoyed building a group with only four-letter names in it.

So there was a conspiracy all along..

As several have already stated, the group dynamic is really thrown off because of what happened in group A. Interested to see how the winner's match will go
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Moonerz
Profile Joined March 2014
United States459 Posts
March 22 2019 16:44 GMT
#23
Dark and Dear to go through. Cure has a chance if Dear can beat Dark in the winner's match imo. Also if Dear gets the top spot that would put Maru into a tough situation.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 22 2019 18:21 GMT
#24
On March 23 2019 00:38 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2019 00:33 Popparockz wrote:
This group is so weird though because of maru getting second in his group. The winner of the group has to play maru while the 2nd place of the group gets to play bunny who is arguably the worst player in the top 8.

And yet Bunny won his group while Maru was on the cusp of not getting out of it at all. Maybe Bunny was overperforming and will be brought back down to Earth next week, but Maru's form deserves to be called into question as well.

Maru had rough times considering his travelling, so maybe Bunny caught him offguard, who knows. Maru wasn't looking as invincible as he used to be and certainly not in TvT, thank god Inno won WESG so he's out of GSL Now we need TY to win some random weekender to get out of the GSL as well
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#27
On March 22 2019 03:19 MarianoSC2 wrote:
I heard that herO is actually really really good nowadays, destroying the Korean ladder. And looks unstoppable in all machtups. Can someone confirm this?

Still think Dark will prove too much for him, but if he is really that good now then I definitely bet on him to advance.

Dear with his PvP does not stand a chance if he is to face herO...


He is rank 1 on Korea atm but he hasn't played on that account in a few days, probably to hide builds for GSL.
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