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StarCraft II: DeepMind Demonstration: Jan 24 - Page 9

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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
January 24 2019 18:47 GMT
#161
So... What did i miss ? Is it finished ? Or games are still playing after ?
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
January 24 2019 18:48 GMT
#162
Why the heck is it blizzcon patch btw? Why did they wait that much time before the demo?
Well at least we'll have interesting papers from an AI point of view
WriterMaru
Vanillatoss
Profile Joined May 2016
76 Posts
January 24 2019 18:48 GMT
#163
On January 25 2019 03:37 Poopi wrote:
Why was it at 500apm?
Is it capped at 180apm on average, but can go higher?
Plus full map view of non fog of war map, so basically can defend harass pretty well?


The fog of war is active... its just Alfa Star view is zoom out but at the same time it is limited to 30 screens per minute..
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
January 24 2019 18:48 GMT
#164
On January 25 2019 03:48 Poopi wrote:
Why the heck is it blizzcon patch btw? Why did they wait that much time before the demo?
Well at least we'll have interesting papers from an AI point of view

Trained the agent on that patch would be my guess.
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
January 24 2019 18:49 GMT
#165
On January 25 2019 03:47 mierin wrote:
Doesn't alphago play sub-optimally when faced with suboptimal opponents? It may be that it's not as bad as it looks, it's just this particular playstyle is "enough" for it to confidently win?

No, AlphaGo was playing to win and it did not care on how it win, in the documentary it shows that it won by 2 points by doing quite a weird move in move 37 or 73
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
January 24 2019 18:49 GMT
#166
On January 25 2019 03:46 TBO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2019 03:44 Nakajin wrote:
Do we know what TLO protoss rank is? It look like mid-master honestly

5500ish on NA. But playing vs something you don't know and never played vs before makes you easily look silly.


I guess but isn't pheonix the super standard hard counter to disruptor, they came super late. And many attack seemed odd and he miss a LOT of forcefield on the ramp in front of the natural.
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Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain881 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-24 18:50:31
January 24 2019 18:50 GMT
#167
It is insane how AlphaStar has evolved since Blizzcon. It is clear that it is not on GM level, but give it 3 months more and it will be.
The full map vision is a huge difference though.
My life for Aiur. You got a piece of me, baby. IIIIIIiiiiiii.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18160 Posts
January 24 2019 18:50 GMT
#168
On January 25 2019 03:26 Pandemona wrote:
Well thats a bit of a cheat isnt it? Being able to see whole map all time (non fog of war part)

Well, that removes the "partial observable" part... guess they couldn't deal with that
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
January 24 2019 18:51 GMT
#169
Im pretty sure that it's playing at GM level
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2631 Posts
January 24 2019 18:51 GMT
#170
200 years of training @_@
Jangbi favorite player. Forever~ CJ herO the King of IEM. BOMBERRRRRRRR. Sexy Boy Rogue. soO #1! Oliveira China Represent!
Haukinger
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany131 Posts
January 24 2019 18:52 GMT
#171
I want it to play regular ladder games
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
January 24 2019 18:52 GMT
#172
200 year of Starcraft...
We need Nestea back guys it's our only hope
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 24 2019 18:52 GMT
#173
On January 25 2019 03:51 IshinShishi wrote:
Im pretty sure that it's playing at GM level


not at all
Zest fanboy.
cha0
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada508 Posts
January 24 2019 18:52 GMT
#174
I'm not that impressed. Sure they programmed it to have an 'average' apm of 250, but during that disruptor battle I saw the apm spiking 800+. If anything the AI is learning how to game the apm system by using low apm during scouting/building and then spiking it super high during battles so it can do godly inhuman micro.
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
January 24 2019 18:52 GMT
#175
wow.....AI development is insane.
Mankind is doomed
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
January 24 2019 18:53 GMT
#176
On January 25 2019 03:49 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2019 03:47 mierin wrote:
Doesn't alphago play sub-optimally when faced with suboptimal opponents? It may be that it's not as bad as it looks, it's just this particular playstyle is "enough" for it to confidently win?

No, AlphaGo was playing to win and it did not care on how it win, in the documentary it shows that it won by 2 points by doing quite a weird move in move 37 or 73

AlphaGo plays to maximize winning percantage, not point difference. But this shows normally only rather late in the game (the move 37 in the second game is famous for being very creative and good, not because it is suboptimal).
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
January 24 2019 18:53 GMT
#177
200 years in one week is scary.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1975 Posts
January 24 2019 18:53 GMT
#178
On January 25 2019 03:51 IshinShishi wrote:
Im pretty sure that it's playing at GM level


they would've put a protoss player against it if it could beat them.
I wasbanned fromthis
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
113 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-24 18:57:12
January 24 2019 18:53 GMT
#179
On January 23 2019 03:55 paralleluniverse wrote:
I don't expect its ability to be more than a high diamond player, or at best a high masters player.

And I'd bet it will use Terran, because its skill with the other 2 races is bad.






Still betting?
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
January 24 2019 18:54 GMT
#180
Is there a schedule somewhere ?
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
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