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On January 25 2019 04:18 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2019 04:17 Cyro wrote:On January 25 2019 04:16 Poopi wrote: So does it see the whole map or not? Their render of view is confusing w/ regards to what was said earlier :o It can see everything with vision the view is just what it's focusing attention on Okay so it's a PR stunt, not a breakthrough in reinforcement learning. Quite disappointing
Yeah it also doesn't have to scratch it's balls, while real players sometimes have to sacrifice some APM for that. Quite disappointing.
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On January 25 2019 04:18 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2019 04:16 Serimek wrote:On January 25 2019 04:14 Aeromi wrote: AlphaStar has no control group Yeah. I'm confuse about how fair it is micro-wise. Meh the micro seemed pretty fair, it's way less insane than a standard Blizz brutal IA.
The footage of game 2 made me doubtful. I need to see replays.
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alphastar basically has a zoom hack, not a map hack but a hack still
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France12758 Posts
On January 25 2019 04:19 TheDougler wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2019 04:18 Poopi wrote:On January 25 2019 04:17 Cyro wrote:On January 25 2019 04:16 Poopi wrote: So does it see the whole map or not? Their render of view is confusing w/ regards to what was said earlier :o It can see everything with vision the view is just what it's focusing attention on Okay so it's a PR stunt, not a breakthrough in reinforcement learning. Quite disappointing It doesn't have vision of everything, yes it can "see" everything it has vision of however. Yes I know, still makes it pretty easier
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Disappointing. Zoom hack and basically just outmicroing players, which everyone knew is unbeatable if done perfectly.
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Skynet seems much better at engaging than puny humanoids
e: and interesting that it lifted sentries instead of immortals
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Canada8988 Posts
On January 25 2019 04:23 JyB wrote: Disappointing. Zoom hack and basically just outmicroing players, which everyone knew is unbeatable if done perfectly.
The build order and mouvement army are great on this engine.
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Honestly this game was really impressive.
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AlphaStar is really on point when it comes to saving units from damage or a bad engagement.
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Who will make the AlphaStar fan club?
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they need to tune the micro ability down for sure, some moves look very inhuman like immediately targeting the immortal as it was coming out without missing a beat
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The micro is just too impossible for human being, if Serral forgets his mouse pad again there'll be no way that human can beat it. Google should add restriction on things like mouse movement/friction
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Is AlphaStar apm capped like the DotA2 agent?
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United States1225 Posts
Just got home, what's the verdict thus far?
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On January 25 2019 04:25 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2019 04:23 JyB wrote: Disappointing. Zoom hack and basically just outmicroing players, which everyone knew is unbeatable if done perfectly.
The build order and mouvement army are great on this engine. Micro and decision making is also very good, and it is very very decisive. Its evaluation of its winning position in the game and in each battle is at the top. Notice how it pulled a few probes when Mana attacked in game 3, to assure it would win the battle decisively. So far I do not see any weakness in this second AlphaStar. Fear.
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On January 25 2019 04:28 Alethios wrote: Is AlphaStar apm capped like the DotA2 agent? Yeah it's capped and on average uses less APM than pros, it also has an artificial reaction of 350ms which is also on the slow end of progames.
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Canada8988 Posts
On January 25 2019 04:27 IshinShishi wrote: they need to tune the micro ability down for sure, some moves look very inhuman like immediately targeting the immortal as it was coming out without missing a beat
I don't see how you tune that off, you click on the immortal as quick as you can when it pop off, you can put the bot at 60 APM and he is still gonna click on it at the first second.
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On January 25 2019 04:28 peanuts wrote: Just got home, what's the verdict thus far?
Not much to say about the TLO series, like, it was okay, but TLO played really bad to be honest.
This second series is the real deal though. This is awesome!
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