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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
Now we just need European players qualifying through the KR qualifiers to complete the cycle.
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Not a great start of the year for Reynor. The NA players did really well here.
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On January 09 2019 05:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Now we just need European players qualifying through the KR qualifiers to complete the cycle.
Looking at you, Zanster!
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On January 09 2019 05:27 HolydaKing wrote:
Not a great start of the year for Reynor. The NA players did really well here.
I don't know; Reynor beat Gumiho and Bunny, who, regardless of the the Korea/EU lag and suboptimal timezones, did pretty well against other top EU talent.
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United States33713 Posts
On January 09 2019 05:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Now we just need European players qualifying through the KR qualifiers to complete the cycle.
Maybe Taiwan will win all the spots
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On January 09 2019 05:29 FrkFrJss wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2019 05:27 HolydaKing wrote:
Not a great start of the year for Reynor. The NA players did really well here. I don't know; Reynor beat Gumiho and Bunny, who, regardless of the the Korea/EU lag and suboptimal timezones, did pretty well against other top EU talent.
Yeah just felt like he was doing extremely well in the 4th quarter of 2018 so I had high hopes he'd qualify here. Losing to Neeb isn't a big surprise I guess, but 0-2 against Showtime was for me. But I did not see those games so perhaps Showtime played amazing.
OR he is just having trouble with ZvP atm.
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On January 09 2019 05:47 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2019 05:29 FrkFrJss wrote:On January 09 2019 05:27 HolydaKing wrote:
Not a great start of the year for Reynor. The NA players did really well here. I don't know; Reynor beat Gumiho and Bunny, who, regardless of the the Korea/EU lag and suboptimal timezones, did pretty well against other top EU talent. Yeah just felt like he was doing extremely well in the 4th quarter of 2018 so I had high hopes he'd qualify here. Losing to Neeb isn't a big surprise I guess, but 0-2 against Showtime was for me. But I did not see those games so perhaps Showtime played amazing. OR he is just having trouble with ZvP atm.
Quite possibly a bit of both. Zerg has had some nerfs, so the matchup needs some getting used to, and while Reynor did win game 1, he did get somewhat shutdown in games 2-4. It wasn't a thrashing by any means, but it did look like one player was better than the other.
So Reynor's on a losing streak, and Showtime's on a winning streak, and that momentum edges Showtime out over Reynor.
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The ping from Korea to EU is much worse than that to NA.
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United States33713 Posts
On January 09 2019 06:38 yht9657 wrote:The ping from Korea to EU is much worse than that to NA.
yeah, the historical qualification rate of Koreans from European server is quite low across all tournaments, and many pros (Korean or otherwise) say KR to EU is "unplayable" (account for some progamer hyperbole)
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On January 09 2019 05:47 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2019 05:29 FrkFrJss wrote:On January 09 2019 05:27 HolydaKing wrote:
Not a great start of the year for Reynor. The NA players did really well here. I don't know; Reynor beat Gumiho and Bunny, who, regardless of the the Korea/EU lag and suboptimal timezones, did pretty well against other top EU talent. Yeah just felt like he was doing extremely well in the 4th quarter of 2018 so I had high hopes he'd qualify here. Losing to Neeb isn't a big surprise I guess, but 0-2 against Showtime was for me. But I did not see those games so perhaps Showtime played amazing. OR he is just having trouble with ZvP atm.
Reynor played really poorly vs lategame Protoss, he stayed on ling hydra the whole game with a super late transition to corruptors, You need neural and vipers to beat carriers mothership.
He tried to play aggressively in the mid game but Showtime defended pretty well and he was stuck with ling Hydra.
His ZvT is still amazing though, he picks Terrans apart extremely well, but his ZvP needs some work.
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On January 09 2019 06:43 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2019 06:38 yht9657 wrote:The ping from Korea to EU is much worse than that to NA. yeah, the historical qualification rate of Koreans from European server is quite low across all tournaments, and many pros (Korean or otherwise) say KR to EU is "unplayable" (account for some progamer hyperbole)
Which makes it pretty crazy that Special qualified for this without losing a series (although he was helped by a mega throw by uThermal).
I know some matches were played with fair ping (eg. Neeb vs Elazer) but afaik, all of Special's games were on EU? Crazy stuff.
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All the Koreans got wrecked 
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Bisutopia19399 Posts
On January 09 2019 05:47 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2019 05:29 FrkFrJss wrote:On January 09 2019 05:27 HolydaKing wrote:
Not a great start of the year for Reynor. The NA players did really well here. I don't know; Reynor beat Gumiho and Bunny, who, regardless of the the Korea/EU lag and suboptimal timezones, did pretty well against other top EU talent. Yeah just felt like he was doing extremely well in the 4th quarter of 2018 so I had high hopes he'd qualify here. Losing to Neeb isn't a big surprise I guess, but 0-2 against Showtime was for me. But I did not see those games so perhaps Showtime played amazing. OR he is just having trouble with ZvP atm.
Looking at tournament results from now through the fourth quarter, all his loses are generally to really great players. He is right there below the top and just needs to improve like 3 more percentage points to break that plain.
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Czech Republic12134 Posts
Ping Korea - NA is between 100 and 150 ms. Ping to European servers from Korea is between 350 and 400 ms IIRC, somebody was posting these numbers during the old WCS when Koreans were dominating NA WCS. IF Koreans would be able to get the spots with this handicap I would seriously recommended to all European players to find another hobby... we're talking about almost half a second delay in a game where this number of time can mean your army isn't no longer there anymore. C'mon...
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On January 09 2019 07:50 deacon.frost wrote:Ping Korea - NA is between 100 and 150 ms. Ping to European servers from Korea is between 350 and 400 ms IIRC, somebody was posting these numbers during the old WCS when Koreans were dominating NA WCS. IF Koreans would be able to get the spots with this handicap I would seriously recommended to all European players to find another hobby... we're talking about almost half a second delay in a game where this number of time can mean your army isn't no longer there anymore. C'mon...
Well our Rodya friend was suggesting koreans would advance in these conditions.
That ping is huge, maybe the situation has slightly improved during the years? You could probably be able to macro but you would get smashed at every single engagement.
It still has to be relevant tho as not a single korean qualified in 2017 as well!
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Dang, EU needs to catch up to KR and NA.
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On January 09 2019 07:50 deacon.frost wrote:Ping Korea - NA is between 100 and 150 ms. Ping to European servers from Korea is between 350 and 400 ms IIRC, somebody was posting these numbers during the old WCS when Koreans were dominating NA WCS. IF Koreans would be able to get the spots with this handicap I would seriously recommended to all European players to find another hobby... we're talking about almost half a second delay in a game where this number of time can mean your army isn't no longer there anymore. C'mon...
LOL dude no one gone play with 400ping, its max 150 and lower
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