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INnoVation leaves Ogaming

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Toua
Profile Joined February 2017
Denmark318 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-08 01:17:48
December 07 2018 16:43 GMT
#1

CM From Ogaming response
On December 08 2018 04:08 Orphal wrote:
Hey guys, @OGSC2 CM here. I wanted to clarify things a little bit, because all of this is well-known within the French community, but maybe not so much internationally.

O'Gaming recruited INnoVation on May 24th (that's about 7 months ago) after we reached our 2400 Subs goal (which we call "Road to Poutre", basically "Road to Awesomeness" if you will). It was a deal made with our community: reach 2400 Subs, we recruit a player.

During Nation Wars V, we were already talking with some players, but we had the opportunity to talk with INnoVation directly when he came to Paris for the finals. Both parties were interested (and to be honest, O'Gaming's crew was just ecstatic), and remained in contact. It took a while to draft the contract (especially because it has to be translated in Korean, by an official translator etc etc BORING), but here we go: on May 24th we announced him officially (with a video that personally still gives me nerdchills to this day after watching it dozens of times):


(I'm bad at timer, check from 1:56:02)
(watch after the video, the reaction of the crew)

Since the very beginning (even said like 30 seconds before showing the video announcement), the deal was to sign with him up until BlizzCon, and then see what's up. Most importantly, O'Gaming did not get any sponsorship for INnoVation, and solely relied on Subs, therefore on money earned by the channel itself, to pay for INnoVation's contract. This is why we couldn't just sign him for 3 years or something, because Subs go up and down, and it's just too complicated to see too far in the future, especially in StarCraft II.

Obviously we were sad that INnoVation didn't manage to qualify for BlizzCon, but this did not prevent us from cheering for him in all other smaller tournaments, the last one being HomeStory Cup XVIII which he almost won, against arguably the strongest player out there right now. When we said we would recruit a player, we never imagined we would be able to sign such a legend as INnoVation. So his performance is not in question.

Near the end of his contract, INnoVation expressed the will to look for another team, pursue other ambitions. Remember that O'Gaming is not able to give INnoVation everything a more conventional team could give him: we are a WebTV, and not equipped to help him with a coach and support staff.
On O'Gaming's side, we just signed OG_MarineLorD for his return to the SC2 scene.
It seemed only natural to just part ways, in a very friendly way, and wish him good luck for the future.

The connection between INnoVation and the French community is very strong, and even though he's not officially under O'Gaming's colors anymore, we will definitely continue to cheer for him so he can show us good games. I can guarantee you that in our hearts, he's only going to be second to French players.
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Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
December 07 2018 16:49 GMT
#2
Unless there is big changes in the WCS system, it does make sense I guess.
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 07 2018 16:50 GMT
#3
Nice to see him confident enough to win tournaments.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
leublix
Profile Joined May 2017
493 Posts
December 07 2018 17:02 GMT
#4
Shouldn't have lost to Serral in the finals.
ClaudeSc2
Profile Joined May 2014
United States73 Posts
December 07 2018 17:05 GMT
#5
On December 08 2018 02:02 leublix wrote:
Shouldn't have lost to Serral in the finals.


This.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 07 2018 17:12 GMT
#6
You know, it's really unfortunate that players moving to and from teams doesn't make as big of a splash as it used to, since team affiliations aren't that strong anymore.

Here you have a top-tier player changing teams, and I don't know if it has any material impact. Whereas back in 2011 when Huk left Liquid for EG, it was huge news and created a huge buzz.

Maybe it's just me waxing nostalgic...
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
dummy1
Profile Blog Joined April 2018
420 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-07 17:25:31
December 07 2018 17:24 GMT
#7
Guys, it's mthrfcking INnoVation. What are you talking about? He does not need a team. Maybe it's a team was needed in INnoVation. Lost to Serral. Huge buzz. What are you talking about?
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-07 17:28:34
December 07 2018 17:26 GMT
#8
Wait didn't he JUST joined the team, they kept him for one tournament and then kick him out?

Oh nvm they had him at the second to last HSC, I'm crazy.
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Toua
Profile Joined February 2017
Denmark318 Posts
December 07 2018 17:39 GMT
#9
On December 08 2018 02:26 Nakajin wrote:
Wait didn't he JUST joined the team, they kept him for one tournament and then kick him out?

Oh nvm they had him at the second to last HSC, I'm crazy.

He was on Ogaming for about 6 months +
Stats, Dark, Maru <3
RampancyTW
Profile Joined August 2010
United States577 Posts
December 07 2018 17:53 GMT
#10
On December 08 2018 02:02 leublix wrote:
Shouldn't have lost to Serral in the finals.

Honestly having trouble determining your sentiment behind this, do you mind elaborating on what you mean?
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
December 07 2018 18:24 GMT
#11
On December 08 2018 02:53 RampancyTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2018 02:02 leublix wrote:
Shouldn't have lost to Serral in the finals.

Honestly having trouble determining your sentiment behind this, do you mind elaborating on what you mean?
no win no contract
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1593 Posts
December 07 2018 19:01 GMT
#12
inb4 joins a chinese team like Scarlett did and a Chinese ProLeague starts up.
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4495 Posts
December 07 2018 19:05 GMT
#13
On December 08 2018 03:24 Weavel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2018 02:53 RampancyTW wrote:
On December 08 2018 02:02 leublix wrote:
Shouldn't have lost to Serral in the finals.

Honestly having trouble determining your sentiment behind this, do you mind elaborating on what you mean?
no win no contract

o'gaming waving the white flag on dat dere sponsorship.
hi. big fan.
Orphal
Profile Joined April 2016
France4 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-07 23:57:10
December 07 2018 19:08 GMT
#14
Hey guys, @OGSC2 CM here. I wanted to clarify things a little bit, because all of this is well-known within the French community, but maybe not so much internationally.

O'Gaming recruited INnoVation on May 24th (that's about 7 months ago) after we reached our 2400 Subs goal (which we call "Road to Poutre", basically "Road to Awesomeness" if you will). It was a deal made with our community: reach 2400 Subs, we recruit a player.

During Nation Wars V, we were already talking with some players, but we had the opportunity to talk with INnoVation directly when he came to Paris for the finals. Both parties were interested (and to be honest, O'Gaming's crew was just ecstatic), and remained in contact. It took a while to draft the contract (especially because it has to be translated in Korean, by an official translator etc etc BORING), but here we go: on May 24th we announced him officially (with a video that personally still gives me nerdchills to this day after watching it dozens of times):

https://youtu.be/aeM7uxdmHQ0?t=6962
(I'm bad at timer, check from 1:56:02)
(watch after the video, the reaction of the crew)

Since the very beginning (even said like 30 seconds before showing the video announcement), the deal was to sign with him up until BlizzCon, and then see what's up. Most importantly, O'Gaming did not get any sponsorship for INnoVation, and solely relied on Subs, therefore on money earned by the channel itself, to pay for INnoVation's contract. This is why we couldn't just sign him for 3 years or something, because Subs go up and down, and it's just too complicated to see too far in the future, especially in StarCraft II.

Obviously we were sad that INnoVation didn't manage to qualify for BlizzCon, but this did not prevent us from cheering for him in all other smaller tournaments, the last one being HomeStory Cup XVIII which he almost won, against arguably the strongest player out there right now. When we said we would recruit a player, we never imagined we would be able to sign such a legend as INnoVation. So his performance is not in question.

Near the end of his contract, INnoVation expressed the will to look for another team, pursue other ambitions. Remember that O'Gaming is not able to give INnoVation everything a more conventional team could give him: we are a WebTV, and not equipped to help him with a coach and support staff.
On O'Gaming's side, we just signed OG_MarineLorD for his return to the SC2 scene.
It seemed only natural to just part ways, in a very friendly way, and wish him good luck for the future.

The connection between INnoVation and the French community is very strong, and even though he's not officially under O'Gaming's colors anymore, we will definitely continue to cheer for him so he can show us good games. I can guarantee you that in our hearts, he's only going to be second to French players.
yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
687 Posts
December 07 2018 19:40 GMT
#15
Thanks Orphal for clarifying, that makes a lot of sense. Crazy how quickly the rumor mill naturally gets out of hand, thanks for giving us an official word.

Innovation fighting, OGTV fighting!
Jung Yoon Jong fighting, even after retirement! Feel better soon.
bela.mervado
Profile Joined December 2008
Hungary385 Posts
December 07 2018 19:49 GMT
#16
Thank you Orphal.
Good luck to both Inno and OG.
lechatnoir
Profile Joined November 2016
385 Posts
December 07 2018 19:58 GMT
#17
Aw. Having him on OG was cool.

But hey, we'll see what happens next.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17665 Posts
December 07 2018 22:41 GMT
#18
On December 08 2018 04:08 Orphal wrote:
we will definitely continue to cheer for him so he can show us good games.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 08 2018 00:18 GMT
#19
On December 08 2018 03:24 Weavel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2018 02:53 RampancyTW wrote:
On December 08 2018 02:02 leublix wrote:
Shouldn't have lost to Serral in the finals.

Honestly having trouble determining your sentiment behind this, do you mind elaborating on what you mean?
no win no contract

Other way around, players who win money don't need teams.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
SlammerIV
Profile Joined December 2013
United States526 Posts
December 08 2018 00:54 GMT
#20
I wish someone would bring back some sort of team league, I guess the current scene is not really in the right place for that but man would it be hype!
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