EPTsOs, Stats, Rogue and Serral in Semifinals of the WCS Glob…
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Weavel
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ThunderJunk
United States729 Posts
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DarkGamer
Germany330 Posts
Wow, i got a completly different view: the upgrade provides better games. u can attack and runby with lurkers. dark and serral tried and did it in the bo5. it was great to watch and most people liked the action packed game. the upgrade of the lurker was a big part of the speed in offense and defense. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18625 Posts
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pachuri007
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Fate is waiting $O$. | ||
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DarkGamer
Germany330 Posts
On November 04 2018 02:41 deacon.frost wrote: Offline BO3+? Why did Aligulac skipped it? Maybe because it was online BO3+ while Maru playing from Korea?  And if you want to count BO1 of a showmatch, we can start taking into the ladder too while we're at it /s i feel like ur arguments are choosed for your already existent opionion. im a terran player and i always root for maru and ty, but ur talking about games that are from the beginning of the year. its sad, that serral cant prove himself against terra in blizzcon, but its not his fault. in recent encounters he outplayed any top korean. if its a "showmatch" or whatever. his micro,macro and multitasking is top-notch and brought him the wins. u could argue, that a top korean with preperation could beat him. But seeing dark, who had a long time to prepare, couldnt beat him and that maru did a preperation against sos that is behind bad, doesnt support this argument at all. it supports more the idea, that serral vs maru could have looked a lot like the last encounter where both played a standard macro game. maru would surely mixed in some proxys or so - that is the part where im not sure how the games would end. but we can be sure that serral would go toe-to-toe with maru in a bo5 or bo7. one thing that many people overlook who say "top koreans > serral" is, that they dont look at the quality of the games. ur talking about statistics, but if u look at the games and how serral wins them u cant overlook that he's a monster in all parts of the game. the only thing that would explain someone doesnt notice this, is that the person has a very limited game knowledge - ~ aka under master 1 at own gameplay. | ||
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hiroshOne
Poland425 Posts
On November 04 2018 03:35 DarkGamer wrote: i feel like ur arguments are choosed for your already existent opionion. im a terran player and i always root for maru and ty, but ur talking about games that are from the beginning of the year. its sad, that serral cant prove himself against terra in blizzcon, but its not his fault. in recent encounters he outplayed any top korean. if its a "showmatch" or whatever. his micro,macro and multitasking is top-notch and brought him the wins. u could argue, that a top korean with preperation could beat him. But seeing dark, who had a long time to prepare, couldnt beat him and that maru did a preperation against sos that is behind bad, doesnt support this argument at all. it supports more the idea, that serral vs maru could have looked a lot like the last encounter where both played a standard macro game. maru would surely mixed in some proxys or so - that is the part where im not sure how the games would end. but we can be sure that serral would go toe-to-toe with maru in a bo5 or bo7. one thing that many people overlook who say "top koreans > serral" is, that they dont look at the quality of the games. ur talking about statistics, but if u look at the games and how serral wins them u cant overlook that he's a monster in all parts of the game. the only thing that would explain someone doesnt notice this, is that the person has a very limited game knowledge - ~ aka under master 1 at own gameplay. That's what I ment sayong that i have seen better games at foreing WCS than in GSL. I feel that foreign meta delovers much more interesting games. Serral is just stellar with his Zerg gameplay, and korean Zergs look silly compared to him. It's time for them to learn from Serral. Not the opposite. | ||
Poopi
France12911 Posts
On November 04 2018 03:29 pachuri007 wrote: Both 2016&2017, Korien #8 took that trophy. Fate is waiting $O$. ByuN was seed 3 in 2016 iirc | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6272 Posts
On November 04 2018 03:35 DarkGamer wrote: i feel like ur arguments are choosed for your already existent opionion. im a terran player and i always root for maru and ty, but ur talking about games that are from the beginning of the year. its sad, that serral cant prove himself against terra in blizzcon, but its not his fault. in recent encounters he outplayed any top korean. if its a "showmatch" or whatever. his micro,macro and multitasking is top-notch and brought him the wins. u could argue, that a top korean with preperation could beat him. But seeing dark, who had a long time to prepare, couldnt beat him and that maru did a preperation against sos that is behind bad, doesnt support this argument at all. it supports more the idea, that serral vs maru could have looked a lot like the last encounter where both played a standard macro game. maru would surely mixed in some proxys or so - that is the part where im not sure how the games would end. but we can be sure that serral would go toe-to-toe with maru in a bo5 or bo7. one thing that many people overlook who say "top koreans > serral" is, that they dont look at the quality of the games. ur talking about statistics, but if u look at the games and how serral wins them u cant overlook that he's a monster in all parts of the game. the only thing that would explain someone doesnt notice this, is that the person has a very limited game knowledge - ~ aka under master 1 at own gameplay. Using statistics is useless at this moment. Series from last year or even the start of this year hardly matter for the shape players are in right now. Fact is that Serral beat every Korean he met in the last two tournaments. | ||
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Hvvacha
82 Posts
On November 04 2018 01:45 Poopi wrote: How many koreans does he need to beat (trash?) before people acknowledge that he is just better? :o better now but not better when koreans was in their prime | ||
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Anc13nt
1557 Posts
On November 04 2018 04:05 Hvvacha wrote: better now but not better when koreans was in their prime Yeah I have to agree. The Koreans have gotten a lot older and that is a big factor. In BW, the oldest OSL champion, Jangbi, was only 23 when he won (nearly every other starleague champion won at the age of 20 or younger, I can only think of Boxer, Nada and July as exceptions), which is worth noting as most SC2 Korean pros now are in their early to mid twenties. Since there were waves of new talent, it was harder to stay near the top in BW as the level of competition kept increasing instead of decreasing. Whereas in SC2, the same people who came from kespa in 2012 are still here and there's basically been no new blood. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
On November 04 2018 04:05 Hvvacha wrote: better now but not better when koreans was in their prime There we have it...the goalposts have moved again. Now not only does Serral have to win every WCS event (and arguably all 3 GSLs), but he has to be better than the best players in their prime in metas he had no opportunity to play in. That's it, folks...just admit Serral is never going to be the best at anything SC2 related. | ||
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DomeGetta
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On November 04 2018 03:24 sharkie wrote: How did Special perform? Pretty well I think. He fought well in every game and can be very proud of himself for his BlizzCon. | ||
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Togekiss
Canada154 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19328 Posts
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Kikirik1
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On November 04 2018 01:32 Harris1st wrote: Just go to the twitch channel and watch the whole boradcast. That's what I do mostly I thought you could only watch it from the blizzcon website.... thank you | ||
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9Dimitri
Hungary14 Posts
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