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shadow4723
Profile Joined October 2018
87 Posts
October 05 2018 10:28 GMT
#21
Great Power Ranking! Completely agree with everything!
Adramelech1
Profile Joined March 2018
19 Posts
October 05 2018 11:38 GMT
#22
On October 05 2018 14:55 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2018 14:44 Rodya wrote:
These power rankings are ridiculous, I'm sorry. How can Classic be above TY? How can Zest be above Stats? I'm beyond commenting on Serral's position at this point (Foreigner wins 1 Korean event and then get crushed at the next tournament where the Koreans actually prepare for them where have I seen this before... hm...).

Anyway I guess I can't really complain since these power rankings have always sucked. I honestly expected Serral to get first place though after winning some online cup and Maru losing to sOs who was unranked. That's exactly the kind of thing I'd expect from TL power rankings.


I'm impressed that you're still posting in spirit form after you were killed two months ago XD

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/536482-maru-and-neeb-advance-to-gsl-ro8-season-3?page=2#26



This was an amusing read, thank you. The Dunning Kruger disorder is strong with this one.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 05 2018 12:35 GMT
#23
It's a shame people downplay Classic so much. Literally the best thing he could have done given his absence in GSL was win supertournament. Which is arguably a more impressive win than Serral's Montreal victory
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
DomeGetta
Profile Joined February 2012
480 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-05 15:43:19
October 05 2018 15:34 GMT
#24
Still think this thing rates Serral way too high putting him above every korean code s mainstay outside of Maru. Cant wait for the backlash for posting this but irks me too much not to. Play in a code S with these guys and dominate like he does wcs minors and i agree. Till then hes 6th or 7th at best . Look at the guys above him on this list..zest makes the finals and semifinals in last 2 code s..only to get stopped by maru..dark loses a code s to maru in finals..loses wesg finals to maru in a sick series where serral.got swept. Stats loses a finals to maru lol. Losing to Maru makes u worse than Serral according to this.

And ps i understand this says september based..but again if serral faces no difficult opponents in september he should be downgraded by default lol.
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5222 Posts
October 05 2018 16:02 GMT
#25
If Serral and Maru meet in the Blizzcon Finals...
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16123 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-05 16:40:11
October 05 2018 16:36 GMT
#26
Love the bit on Neeb, and people wonder why I don't believe in this kid?

Come on guys, he's an American, I'm an American, I should have every reason in the world to support him, but I don't.

How come? Because he just isn't legit. He lacks that X factor that make guys like Serral and Maru lethal. He lacks the pure raw talent of someone like Scarlett or Showtime where you can always speculate that they can get better. And he's a veteran, he's established he's not a bright shining unknown like Reynor who has nowhere to go except up.

He's at his peak, this is his final form. He's a challenger, but he isn't a contender. I'm not being a hater, I'm just stating the truth.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
October 05 2018 16:43 GMT
#27
"Then, he did the impossible and eliminated freshly crowned 3-time Code S champion Maru in the Ro8."

He did not the impossible. He did the very difficult. But it was possible to eliminate Maru in the Ro8.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2720 Posts
October 05 2018 17:58 GMT
#28
Neeb's ranked low because results are taken from September 5th to 29th. Rogue vs Neeb was August 29th. So in that time Neeb's lost to TY, Semper, and Reynor and only won against Cyan and Mana. That's why he's honorable mention.
very illegal and very uncool
RandomOnlyTheHumanLf
Profile Joined July 2018
58 Posts
October 05 2018 18:45 GMT
#29
Power rank is meaningless in sc2 especially in pro level.

It’s like top players have similar level. But pretty sure Maru is ahead of anyone else atm.

And rest top players like Classic, Stats, sOs, Zest, TY, INnoVaton, GuMiho, Dark, Serral, Rogue, soO, Solar can still take out Maru depend on condition, map, and build orders.

ProFalseIdol
Profile Joined June 2018
70 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-05 19:05:36
October 05 2018 19:05 GMT
#30
Why the hell is Serral, a minor league player, rank higher than TY? TY has shown he has the ability to beat Maru in a Best of 7. And the only reason why Serral won against Koreans in exhibition matches is because Koreans doesn't know him. It's the same case with Neeb and Scarlett. Get Serral to qualify for Code S first please.
RandomOnlyTheHumanLf
Profile Joined July 2018
58 Posts
October 05 2018 19:06 GMT
#31
And most of fans who don’t fully understand pro level might believe “Who beat who and who lost to who, so who is better than who.” But this is not true.

Sc2 is very random game especially when comparing with BW. Game is much easier to control, but because of that, everyone can control and skill gap is not huge among pro players. I’ve seen tons of low level pros or even amateurs beating top pros before.

The game is complicated and depend a lot on with players’ conditions, build orders, and some randomness. Any pro players can win 1 game vs Maru whether it is luck or not. Sc2 is just that kind of game. You can beat much better opponent. Unless it is difference between master and platinum.
ProFalseIdol
Profile Joined June 2018
70 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-05 19:08:44
October 05 2018 19:07 GMT
#32
On October 06 2018 03:45 RandomOnlyTheHumanLf wrote:
Power rank is meaningless in sc2 especially in pro level.

It’s like top players have similar level. But pretty sure Maru is ahead of anyone else atm.

And rest top players like Classic, Stats, sOs, Zest, TY, INnoVaton, GuMiho, Dark, Serral, Rogue, soO, Solar can still take out Maru depend on condition, map, and build orders.



We can probably safely conclude now that Zest should not be in the list. He simply can't take a map from Maru right now. The only time he got a map from Maru was when Maru got bored.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9060 Posts
October 05 2018 19:08 GMT
#33
This power rank is a sham. TaeJa is back and he's not #1.
RandomOnlyTheHumanLf
Profile Joined July 2018
58 Posts
October 05 2018 19:22 GMT
#34
On October 06 2018 04:05 ProFalseIdol wrote:
Why the hell is Serral, a minor league player, rank higher than TY? TY has shown he has the ability to beat Maru in a Best of 7. And the only reason why Serral won against Koreans in exhibition matches is because Koreans doesn't know him. It's the same case with Neeb and Scarlett. Get Serral to qualify for Code S first please.


There might be some hyping and propaganda about the best foreigner who can never be beaten by any other foreigners’ level. And again this is foreign fans community and it is understandable to rate rank like this.

But in terms of pure skill, I believe Serral is really in same level as top Koreans when I watch his games, he has great mechanics, fast decision making, great map understanding. And even won GSL vs World. But that is not enough proof Serral is above everyone else except Maru.

He was the only one had undefeated record in WESG 18-0 against foreigners before losing 0-3 by Maru. Ppl say raven was OP there. But game 2 was simply won by Maru with bio harass + bio tank push in mid-late game. And Dark was still able to almost beat Maru in final by making 3-3 and he even defeated Maru’s raven in some games.

Blizzcon will tell everything. And I remember ppl were always hyped like this about the best foreigner before when Lilbow made foreign zergs frustrated and they believed he had better style than Korean protoss. And when Neeb won kespa cup, the hype was not behind of current Serral before blizzcon.
RandomOnlyTheHumanLf
Profile Joined July 2018
58 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-05 19:35:19
October 05 2018 19:25 GMT
#35
On October 06 2018 04:07 ProFalseIdol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2018 03:45 RandomOnlyTheHumanLf wrote:
Power rank is meaningless in sc2 especially in pro level.

It’s like top players have similar level. But pretty sure Maru is ahead of anyone else atm.

And rest top players like Classic, Stats, sOs, Zest, TY, INnoVaton, GuMiho, Dark, Serral, Rogue, soO, Solar can still take out Maru depend on condition, map, and build orders.



We can probably safely conclude now that Zest should not be in the list. He simply can't take a map from Maru right now. The only time he got a map from Maru was when Maru got bored.


Every pros have strength and weakness depending on their styles and even tho Zest look rusty, he still made ro4 GSL and blizzcon in WCS Korea. His style is just weak vs Maru I guess. But I wouldn’t be surprised even if Zest beat Maru in bo 5 or 7 in next time.
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
October 05 2018 19:59 GMT
#36
i would really like to see region locking removed next year. then all this serral discussion will go away. either serral continues to dominate with no region locking, or he doesn't. but the debate would be settled. region locking is horrible. a player is good because they have competed against the very best. by region locking, that hasn't happened. serral did amazing in gsl vs the world, but that's a sample size of 1 tournament. him stomping foreigners? completely irrelevant. TY could've stomped all the foreigner tournaments as well but he got ranked lower
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 05 2018 22:53 GMT
#37
serral = bonjwa
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FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4552 Posts
October 06 2018 00:39 GMT
#38
On October 06 2018 01:36 Vindicare605 wrote:
Love the bit on Neeb, and people wonder why I don't believe in this kid?

Come on guys, he's an American, I'm an American, I should have every reason in the world to support him, but I don't.

How come? Because he just isn't legit. He lacks that X factor that make guys like Serral and Maru lethal. He lacks the pure raw talent of someone like Scarlett or Showtime where you can always speculate that they can get better. And he's a veteran, he's established he's not a bright shining unknown like Reynor who has nowhere to go except up.

He's at his peak, this is his final form. He's a challenger, but he isn't a contender. I'm not being a hater, I'm just stating the truth.

who are you speaking to
hi. big fan.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4552 Posts
October 06 2018 00:40 GMT
#39
On October 06 2018 07:53 Shellshock wrote:
serral = bonjwa

say it 3 times in front of a mirror and rumour has it charaiosaur will appear to dissuade you
hi. big fan.
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
October 06 2018 01:32 GMT
#40
Is rodya on alt accounts now or something god damn
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