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GSL Super Tournament #2 (2018) bracket released - Page 2

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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-19 11:50:57
September 19 2018 11:50 GMT
#21
Well, Gumi is fucked. No way sOs is going out early. Damn shame really, but this opens up the possibility for $0$ (the ultimate Protoss), to rise again out of nowhere :O
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55573 Posts
September 19 2018 12:07 GMT
#22
Last year, in the Korean WCS top 8 every player either won at least 1 WCS point tourney or finished highly in multiple. This year, that's still true for the top 7. But the 8th player will probably be someone who has at most 1 top 4+ finish and is in Blizzcon range because of consistency/playing in everything.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 19 2018 12:46 GMT
#23
If soO goes through Bunny, Dark, and Classic, he can make the finals. Then poviding sOs doesn't make said final, soO will get the spot.

Also there's no way Rogue or Maru would deny sOs a blizzcon spot right? I really think this comes down to soO vs sOs for it.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13996 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-19 14:48:55
September 19 2018 14:48 GMT
#24
On September 19 2018 21:46 Fango wrote:
If soO goes through Bunny, Dark, and Classic, he can make the finals. Then poviding sOs doesn't make said final, soO will get the spot.

Also there's no way Rogue or Maru would deny sOs a blizzcon spot right? I really think this comes down to soO vs sOs for it.

There is. What you suggest is basically match-fixing, the ultimate crime in sports.
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Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-19 14:54:48
September 19 2018 14:54 GMT
#25
What could be better than winning 3 gsls in a year? Winning 4.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16063 Posts
September 19 2018 14:55 GMT
#26
On September 19 2018 23:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2018 21:46 Fango wrote:
If soO goes through Bunny, Dark, and Classic, he can make the finals. Then poviding sOs doesn't make said final, soO will get the spot.

Also there's no way Rogue or Maru would deny sOs a blizzcon spot right? I really think this comes down to soO vs sOs for it.

There is. What you suggest is basically match-fixing, the ultimate crime in sports.

which obviously no Starcraft player would ever do
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 19 2018 14:57 GMT
#27
On September 19 2018 23:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2018 21:46 Fango wrote:
If soO goes through Bunny, Dark, and Classic, he can make the finals. Then poviding sOs doesn't make said final, soO will get the spot.

Also there's no way Rogue or Maru would deny sOs a blizzcon spot right? I really think this comes down to soO vs sOs for it.

There is. What you suggest is basically match-fixing, the ultimate crime in sports.

Throwing for money = matchfixing. Choosing to not play at 100% or doing intentionally inferior strategies is not against the rules.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Tempest
Profile Joined October 2015
United States147 Posts
September 19 2018 15:00 GMT
#28
Bold prediction of the week:

Bunny magically wins both of his TvZ matchups so that Classic can make it to grand finals without playing a PvZ.
After which he will lose to Maru/Rogue or defeat Stats.

Long shot I know, but im sticking to it.
Quick, think of some pithy cliche and toss it here
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
September 19 2018 15:11 GMT
#29
On September 19 2018 23:57 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2018 23:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
On September 19 2018 21:46 Fango wrote:
If soO goes through Bunny, Dark, and Classic, he can make the finals. Then poviding sOs doesn't make said final, soO will get the spot.

Also there's no way Rogue or Maru would deny sOs a blizzcon spot right? I really think this comes down to soO vs sOs for it.

There is. What you suggest is basically match-fixing, the ultimate crime in sports.

Throwing for money = matchfixing. Choosing to not play at 100% or doing intentionally inferior strategies is not against the rules.


Not at all. It's matchfixing regardless of whether you're playing poorly to help a teammate or to get an easier playoff opponent or any other reason. It's definitely against the rules.

That being said the community doesn't consider this form of matchfixing that harshly, it's hard to prove, and people haven't ever been punished even in cases where it's blatantly obvious (Stork for example threw like 4 tiebreak games at WCG to try to avoid another Korean in the playoffs).
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 19 2018 15:18 GMT
#30
On September 19 2018 23:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2018 21:46 Fango wrote:
If soO goes through Bunny, Dark, and Classic, he can make the finals. Then poviding sOs doesn't make said final, soO will get the spot.

Also there's no way Rogue or Maru would deny sOs a blizzcon spot right? I really think this comes down to soO vs sOs for it.

There is. What you suggest is basically match-fixing, the ultimate crime in sports.

Team strategy is match fixing? Is match fixing when Maru swaps people around so his team mates have easier groups(or at least think so )?

It all comes down what the team strategy is and how the rest of the games happens.

But in the end - it's inside the team. Unless somebody from the team would talk nobody will know. Look at Life, nobody knew he was match fixing ;-)
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-19 15:41:06
September 19 2018 15:24 GMT
#31
On September 20 2018 00:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2018 23:57 Fango wrote:
On September 19 2018 23:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
On September 19 2018 21:46 Fango wrote:
If soO goes through Bunny, Dark, and Classic, he can make the finals. Then poviding sOs doesn't make said final, soO will get the spot.

Also there's no way Rogue or Maru would deny sOs a blizzcon spot right? I really think this comes down to soO vs sOs for it.

There is. What you suggest is basically match-fixing, the ultimate crime in sports.

Throwing for money = matchfixing. Choosing to not play at 100% or doing intentionally inferior strategies is not against the rules.


Not at all. It's matchfixing regardless of whether you're playing poorly to help a teammate or to get an easier playoff opponent or any other reason. It's definitely against the rules.

That being said the community doesn't consider this form of matchfixing that harshly, it's hard to prove, and people haven't ever been punished even in cases where it's blatantly obvious (Stork for example threw like 4 tiebreak games at WCG to try to avoid another Korean in the playoffs).

Choosing to do an inferior build isn't matchfixing. Usually they'll still try to win the game, they're just less likely to. Some players have said they value entertaining over winning and do this often. And in round robin groups once players are already guaranteed to win the group, they'll sometimes do stupid builds.

It's not fixing unless they intentionally arrange to lose the game. And even if they did it's impossible to prove usually.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12915 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-19 15:57:50
September 19 2018 15:35 GMT
#32
Yeah, I could see Maru proxying sOs and losing.
Would not be match fix.
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swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
September 19 2018 15:40 GMT
#33
Damn, what's up with the best jin air players and their brackets? sOs better play the games of his life to beat maru/rogue
swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
September 19 2018 15:42 GMT
#34
On September 20 2018 00:24 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2018 00:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 19 2018 23:57 Fango wrote:
On September 19 2018 23:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
On September 19 2018 21:46 Fango wrote:
If soO goes through Bunny, Dark, and Classic, he can make the finals. Then poviding sOs doesn't make said final, soO will get the spot.

Also there's no way Rogue or Maru would deny sOs a blizzcon spot right? I really think this comes down to soO vs sOs for it.

There is. What you suggest is basically match-fixing, the ultimate crime in sports.

Throwing for money = matchfixing. Choosing to not play at 100% or doing intentionally inferior strategies is not against the rules.


Not at all. It's matchfixing regardless of whether you're playing poorly to help a teammate or to get an easier playoff opponent or any other reason. It's definitely against the rules.

That being said the community doesn't consider this form of matchfixing that harshly, it's hard to prove, and people haven't ever been punished even in cases where it's blatantly obvious (Stork for example threw like 4 tiebreak games at WCG to try to avoid another Korean in the playoffs).

Choosing to do an inferior build isn't matchfixing. Usually they'll still try to win the game, they're just less likely to. Some players have said they value entertaining over winning and do this often. And in round robin groups once players are already guaranteed to win the group, they'll sometimes do stupid builds.

It's not fixing unless they intentionally arrange to lose the game. And even if they did it's impossible to prove usually.


It's also intentionally losing the game to obtain money or some sort of return. I think you can intentionally lose and proving that by itself is not enough
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 19 2018 15:50 GMT
#35
On September 20 2018 00:40 swissman777 wrote:
Damn, what's up with the best jin air players and their brackets? sOs better play the games of his life to beat maru/rogue


Maru sucks in these and after Rogue's series against Neeb I'm not so sure in Rogue's ZvP anymore. Think sOs is gonna be fine.
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fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
September 19 2018 15:52 GMT
#36
oh wow soo can beat everyone on his side of the bracket!!!!! except TY lulz.

go soo!!!!!!!!!
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 19 2018 15:54 GMT
#37
On September 20 2018 00:40 swissman777 wrote:
Damn, what's up with the best jin air players and their brackets? sOs better play the games of his life to beat maru/rogue

Maru and Rogue never normally go 100% in events like this. Whereas sOs has a very good reason to.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-19 15:59:38
September 19 2018 15:59 GMT
#38
If SoO train well and get a good opponent in the semi (aka Classic), he has a good path to second place and Blizzcon.
Trap got a shitty draw.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55573 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-19 16:23:11
September 19 2018 16:22 GMT
#39
On September 20 2018 00:00 Tempest wrote:
Bold prediction of the week:

Bunny magically wins both of his TvZ matchups so that Classic can make it to grand finals without playing a PvZ.
After which he will lose to Maru/Rogue or defeat Stats.

Long shot I know, but im sticking to it.

First Classic is gonna have to survive getting proxied every game.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Tempest
Profile Joined October 2015
United States147 Posts
September 19 2018 16:39 GMT
#40
On September 20 2018 01:22 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2018 00:00 Tempest wrote:
Bold prediction of the week:

Bunny magically wins both of his TvZ matchups so that Classic can make it to grand finals without playing a PvZ.
After which he will lose to Maru/Rogue or defeat Stats.

Long shot I know, but im sticking to it.

First Classic is gonna have to survive getting proxied every game.


I have a mildly biased opinion that Classic's PvT is the best PvT in the world. I also feel that Maru is the main threat with and best user of said proxy playstyle, and that's why I predict Classic to go down to Maru if he faces him in the finals. TY is no slouch though, and if he has adopted Proxy as his bread and butter go-to for every game now, you may be right.
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