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wow i'm 3 maps off from prediction, had special 3-1 and maru 3-0 
Also, i hope this ends the korean super bias "GSL > everything". Turns out WCS is acutally rather competetive and winning it almost flawlessly 3 times in a row means something.
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On August 02 2018 23:02 KalWarkov wrote:wow i'm 3 maps off from prediction, had special 3-1 and maru 3-0 Also, i hope this ends the korean super bias "GSL > everything". Turns out WCS is acutally rather competetive and winning it almost flawlessly 3 times in a row means something.
Ehm, one series, with Zest, the biggest slumper in human history, of all people, proves something? Let's wait for the rest of the tournament to make any conculsions ...
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France13023 Posts
On August 02 2018 23:17 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2018 23:02 KalWarkov wrote:wow i'm 3 maps off from prediction, had special 3-1 and maru 3-0 Also, i hope this ends the korean super bias "GSL > everything". Turns out WCS is acutally rather competetive and winning it almost flawlessly 3 times in a row means something. Ehm, one series, with Zest, the biggest slumper in human history, of all people, proves something? Let's wait for the rest of the tournament to make any conculsions ...
It's a fair and rational point that we should wait for the rest of the tournament to make conclusions.
However, Zest being a "slumper" is very subjective and bordeline utter BS imho.
The probable truth is that WCS is nowadays more competitive because foreign players have more incentive (mainly financial) to compete hard between themselves which leads to a more competitive foreign scene.
Thanks for the write-up, that makes me want to watch the Maru vs soO series even tho I already know the outcome, which is very rare 
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On August 02 2018 23:17 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2018 23:02 KalWarkov wrote:wow i'm 3 maps off from prediction, had special 3-1 and maru 3-0 Also, i hope this ends the korean super bias "GSL > everything". Turns out WCS is acutally rather competetive and winning it almost flawlessly 3 times in a row means something. Ehm, one series, with Zest, the biggest slumper in human history, of all people, proves something? Let's wait for the rest of the tournament to make any conculsions ...
Neeb didn't advance from his Code S group, right?
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On August 02 2018 23:47 KalWarkov wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2018 23:17 opisska wrote:On August 02 2018 23:02 KalWarkov wrote:wow i'm 3 maps off from prediction, had special 3-1 and maru 3-0 Also, i hope this ends the korean super bias "GSL > everything". Turns out WCS is acutally rather competetive and winning it almost flawlessly 3 times in a row means something. Ehm, one series, with Zest, the biggest slumper in human history, of all people, proves something? Let's wait for the rest of the tournament to make any conculsions ... Neeb didn't advance from his Code S group, right?
He did advance. Beat Losira and Alive to come out 2nd.
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Did you really have to put the names in the thread subjecT?
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China6333 Posts
On August 02 2018 23:53 Odoakar wrote:
Did you really have to put the names in the thread subjecT?
If you don't want to be spoiled, use spoiler mode.
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the obligatory spoiler complaint returns.
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Whoever voted for Has instead of Mana. You messed up. Mana beat Special not so long ago. You got excited cause of some cheese and voted a weaker player in. Good job
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While I don't think that it's insignificant that Zest loss, as most people were still predicting a Zest win, of all the Koreans, Zest loses a number of times against foreigners. He's also one of the weaker Koreans in terms of recent dominance. Sure, you can never really count him out of a match, but he feels less intimidating than other Koreans. If any other foreigners can take matches, then it might be something, but we'll have to wait and see.
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On August 02 2018 23:24 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2018 23:17 opisska wrote:On August 02 2018 23:02 KalWarkov wrote:wow i'm 3 maps off from prediction, had special 3-1 and maru 3-0 Also, i hope this ends the korean super bias "GSL > everything". Turns out WCS is acutally rather competetive and winning it almost flawlessly 3 times in a row means something. Ehm, one series, with Zest, the biggest slumper in human history, of all people, proves something? Let's wait for the rest of the tournament to make any conculsions ... It's a fair and rational point that we should wait for the rest of the tournament to make conclusions. However, Zest being a "slumper" is very subjective and bordeline utter BS imho. The probable truth is that WCS is nowadays more competitive because foreign players have more incentive (mainly financial) to compete hard between themselves which leads to a more competitive foreign scene. Thanks for the write-up, that makes me want to watch the Maru vs soO series even tho I already know the outcome, which is very rare
WCS is more competitive now, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't take showtime vs. zest with a grain of salt. Zest isn't in a "slump" exactly anymore since he did make gsl finals, but he still looks shakey more often than not even in his wins. I'd still hold off judgment about WCS circuit compared to GSL until at least ro8 is finished.
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On August 03 2018 00:44 boski055 wrote:
Whoever voted for Has instead of Mana. You messed up. Mana beat Special not so long ago. You got excited cause of some cheese and voted a weaker player in. Good job
Has also beat Special recently.
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Zest looked less than amazing at Homestory Cup, so this result isn't too surprising. His series against Showtime was probably the biggest chance for a Korean to lose to a non-Korean in the tournament.
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I think its wrong to say that Zest is in a slump and so on. He advanced in his GSL group and was in the finals last season.. I think his problem was, that he underestimated Showtime a lot. You heard it in his interview and the aspect Rotti mentioned, that cheesing on that map is nonsense if Zest would have watched some matches of him. I think not to watch games of your opponent is a strategical mistake, plus his underestimation and Showtime being a good player... he deserved the win and now saying that he won just because of a bad shape of Zest is bs
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OR showtime is just really good he also beat stats recently.
it seems everyone is just making excuses for the koreans if they lose.
kinda odd and boring.
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i think the casting/analysis in the broadcast were pretty accurate. it looks like Zest wasnt prepared at all for showtime. against a player with strength in defense, you dont win if you wanna go with your head through "the wall". take advantage that he is sometimes a little to save, outmarcro him or gaining here and there little advantages and work out your win. The fact that Zest didnt get a single upgrade in the whole series (correct?), says everything...
still, showtime is to me one of the most underrated players. would have loved to saw a finals against serral in valencia. Maybe Maru did a better preperation, considering he picked him first!?
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Oh Has, why do you break my heart so  .
Hoping Maru takes the win. Impressed with soO taking Maru to five maps though.
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Guess soo won't make it to blizzcon
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On August 03 2018 02:39 BigRedDog wrote:
Guess soo won't make it to blizzcon
This tournament didn't matter one bit regarding Blizzcon anyway.
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