• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:01
CEST 06:01
KST 13:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview5[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double0Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !16Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results
Tourneys
$1,400 SEL Season 3 Ladder Invitational GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) $5,000 WardiTV Spring Championship 2026 Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes
Brood War
General
25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 vespene.gg — BW replays in browser Lights Ro.8 Review (asl s21) BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL21] Semifinals B [BSL22] RO8 Bracket Stage + Another TieBreaker [ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne ZeroSpace Megathread War of Dots, 2026 minimalst RTS Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread YouTube Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1506 users

WCS Austin Challenger - Week 2 Preview (RO16)

Forum Index > SC2 General
2 CommentsPost a Reply

WCS Austin Challenger - Week 2 Preview (RO16)

Text byTL.net ESPORTS
April 21st, 2018 09:24 GMT

WCS Austin Challenger: NA & Europe Week 2

We're continuing down the road to WCS Austin with more WCS Challenger matches. The North American and European Challenger tournaments have been restructured into a familiar, GSL-lite format: Sixteen players face off in double-elimination groups, with eight players advancing to a single elimination bracket. The top four Challengers from each region will earn invaluable seeds in the RO32 at WCS Austin, the second stop on the 2018 WCS Circuit.

North American Challenger: RO16 Week 2

North American super-fan and WCS commentator Ravi “feardragon” Pareek is back to give us more insight on the players competing in the Challenger tournament. (*feardragon's commentary was transcribed and edited from a voice call.)

Group C: MaSa, Cicada, PandaBearMe, Starkiller



MaSa: High ceiling, low floor

"(Wiki)MaSa wasn't playing much StarCraft in recent weeks, as he's another player who's been really busy with school. But it's usually not that big a deal that he's not playing as much. He's always been a player who relies more on mind games—picking the right builds and strategies, getting into his opponents' head and messing with them a lot. I've said this before in the past, and I still stand by it: I think MaSa plays his best StarCraft when he has no confidence in himself. And right now, I think that he doesn't have a crazy amount of confidence, because he'll go into this knowing he hasn't played too much.

MaSa has a huge range of volatility. He's probably the most volatile player in Challenger right now. If we look back to last year, he bombed out of Challenger for WCS Austin against some players he had no business losing to. And then, a few weeks later, he beat Neeb 3-0 and eats Scarlett twice to win the WCS Valencia qualifier."

The mystery of PandaBearMe

"(Wiki)PandaBearMe is a hard player to read. I know that he cares a LOT about StarCraft, and he puts a lot of time and effort into it. He's one of the guys who doesn't quite feel like he's around the NA scene that much—partially because he hangs out with the SEA region players a lot. In some weird way, it doesn't feel like he's a super active part of the NA scene. It feels like he randomly shows up, has a few good series and beats some good people. It's not like he'll make a deep run, but he'll beat some players you really didn't think he should be beating. It's not even something that happens over the course of a day—it's something that happens over the course of two hours. I actually think that PandaBearMe could even beat Scarlett at times."

Cicada and Starkiller: Underestimate at your own risk

"(Wiki)Cicada (formerly known as Voltz) and (Wiki)starkiller both get the exact same criticism from every player in North America. They are incredibly one-dimensional players. I don't want to paint it as just cheese. For example, starkiller, the way everyone describes him is that all he does is make Roaches and a-moves with them. The weird thing is, I think the entire NA scene has really negative impressions of both of them because they hear other people talk about them as one-dimensional. But I think that it's an inarguable fact that they still get results, and get them surprisingly often for players who are supposedly one-dimensional and not very good.

I think there's almost am underrated factor to them, where people don't seem to respect them compared to the results that they're capable of. They still have a lot to prove, but I think especially starkiller has shown that he can beat some pretty good players. They may be one-dimensional, but they're very good at that one dimension."

European Challenger: RO16 Week 2

We had a few candidates lined up to provide their expert analysis on this week's WCS Europe Challenger group, but the scheduling just didn't work out. So, uhhh... here's Wax again.

Group C: Serral, Bly, PtitDrogo, Starbuck



For better or for worse, excessive hyperbole is deeply ingrained in StarCraft II esports. So if I could indulge myself for a second: Is (Wiki)Serral the most dominant player in WCS Circuit history? We're not even a year removed from Neeb's magnificent 2017 WCS Circuit run, where he won three out of four major tournaments. Yet, we easily forget that Neeb played a number of tight series, making him more of a clutch player than an unbeatable one. On the other hand, Serral in WCS 2018... Since the 4.0 patch (which I take to mark the start of the 2018 WCS season), he's played like he's in an entirely different tier from the rest of the foreigner scene. His stats back up the eye-test: Serral is 155-29 in games against fellow foreigners, and a ludicrous 41-5 in his best match-up of ZvP.

It's tempting to say that Serral winning Challenger Europe is a foregone conclusion, and the true competition will be for the remaining three seeds. However, given the famed depth of the European pro-scene, surely Serral's groupmates have a chance at causing an early upset?

There's no one better to begin with than (Wiki)Bly. The Ukrainian Zerg has been an emblem of chaos since 2010, and his brand of cheese has only become funkier, more complex, and more robust with time. Recently, TLO scored an upset against Serral in NationWars with some clever ZvZ play. Bly is quite a creative player in his own right, and there's no telling what he could do with sufficient preparation. Bah, who am I kidding? Serral happens to have an absurd 80%+ win rate in the Zerg mirror, and only has series losses to Elazer, Nerchio, and Scarlett. Under normal circumstances, ZvZ is the "anything can happen" match-up, but Serral is an abnormal player.

Against any other Zerg, I'd have given (Wiki)PtitDrogo a fighting chance. After all, he's Protoss, and those tricky Europeans always seem to have a few cards up their sleeve for facing Zerg. Alas, he's facing Serral, who has lost only a SINGLE series to a foreigner Protoss this season. That happened back in November, when he lost 0-2 to ShoWTimE in the WESG qualifiers. Some might say "Aha! So there IS a chance!" Perhaps. But seeing as how Serral responded to that defeat by ripping ShoWTimE's soul out in every subsequent match, maybe it's better not to offend Serral at all.

Finally, we have (Wiki)Starbuck, who's in a similar boat as Bly. Since the ancient days of WCS Europe Premier League in 2013, it's always felt like a crap shoot to guess who might win a ZvZ in the upper echelons of European competition. Alas, Serral is just breaking all the conventions about what a typical European pro is. On a brighter note, it's good to see Starbuck back in WCS again. He was actually a competitor in the aforementioned WCS Premier League of yore, going to ESL's Cologne studio to compete against the likes of MMA and duckdeok. He's back after last breaking through WCS qualifier in late 2015, and it will be interesting to see what he can do against players not-named-Serral.

Alright, now that I've sufficiently jinxed Serral, make sure to tune in and watch how it all falls apart!




Credits and acknowledgements
North America analysis: feardragon
Europe 'analysis': Wax
Editor: Wax
Facebook Twitter Reddit
TL+ Member
DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
April 21 2018 10:06 GMT
#2
Artosis curse > wax curse. Amirite?.

I'm interested if Serral's cloak of invincibility will hold up until Austin.
**@ YT: SC2POVs at https://www.youtube.com/c/SC2POVsTV | https://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/SC2POVs @**
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
April 21 2018 13:46 GMT
#3
Lol Wax, thanks for staying realistic. Serral hopefully won't disappoint.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
KungFu Cup 2026 Week 7
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft413
Nina 164
RuFF_SC2 147
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 5440
Sea 4471
HiyA 14
JulyZerg 7
Icarus 4
Dota 2
monkeys_forever521
NeuroSwarm152
League of Legends
JimRising 772
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1403
Stewie2K1282
taco 488
m0e_tv470
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox545
Other Games
summit1g12183
C9.Mang0492
PiGStarcraft180
Trikslyr52
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1011
Counter-Strike
PGL888
Other Games
BasetradeTV100
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 21
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta19
• practicex 14
• Mapu4
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1063
• Rush947
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
5h 59m
Kung Fu Cup
6h 59m
WardiTV Qualifier
9h 59m
GSL
1d 5h
Cure vs sOs
SHIN vs ByuN
Replay Cast
1d 19h
GSL
2 days
Classic vs Solar
GuMiho vs Zoun
WardiTV Spring Champion…
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV Spring Champion…
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Classic vs SHIN
Rogue vs Bunny
BSL
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Flash vs Soma
RSL Revival
5 days
BSL
5 days
Patches Events
5 days
Universe Titan Cup
6 days
Rogue vs Percival
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W7
2026 GSL S1
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
YSL S3
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
Heroes Pulsing #1
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.