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Starting from Page 11 and onward, if anyone talks about how Blizzard, TOs, and sponsors should no longer support BTTV and Rifkin, you will be temp banned. This adds NOTHING productive to the discussion and only makes the community look immature.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/532710-basetradetv-and-noregret-disagreement-escalates?page=11#216
Additionally, this post deserves to be publicly noticed.
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
April 08 2018 16:51 GMT
#261
On April 09 2018 01:46 Ibanez.beau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2018 00:25 DSh1 wrote:
So you also want to see one of the parties crucified rather than this settling down and dieing out. I'm convinced some people in 1914 would agree with you.


I believe it's important to reveal who is at fault for those who wish to work with either in the future. After all, it was the players who were being punished for the disagreement.

I just wish everyone involved can get back to work togheter and put this in the past. I think it's in the best interest of everybody, especially for us the fans who just want to see good games.
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16102 Posts
April 08 2018 16:56 GMT
#262
On April 09 2018 00:27 -StrifeX- wrote:
DSK I honestly think what you did is very generous, but I honestly view it as Rifkin being greedy to accept a fan or person outside of the contract for pay for this. This in the end shows me his true colors. If he cared about the fans, then why would you let a fan or someone outside settle something like this? I would have taken a loss if I cared more about fans before having them pay for someone else debt. This only proves, in my opinion of course, that Rifkin is more worried about the money than the fans watching. This to me betrays the brand he supposedly brought up through out the years as BTTV

He didn't pocket the money though. The money goes into his tournaments. Has nothing to do with Rifkin being greedy
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
JimSocks
Profile Joined February 2009
United States968 Posts
April 08 2018 17:00 GMT
#263
thats the thing, ppl don't read the whole story, ppl already assuming rifkin keeping the money when he said its going back to the tournament.
waiting2Bbanned
Profile Joined November 2015
United States154 Posts
April 08 2018 17:25 GMT
#264
On April 09 2018 02:00 JimSocks wrote:
thats the thing, ppl don't read the whole story, ppl already assuming rifkin keeping the money when he said its going back to the tournament.

Ppl don't have to know the whole story since they're not interested in that. There's apparently a lot of blind hatred towards Rifkin, and truth or facts have nothing to do with it.
"If you are going to break the law, do it with two thousand people.. and Mozart." - Howard Zinn
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
April 08 2018 17:39 GMT
#265
DSK I read your first post and I thought you were joking! What a hero you are. Thank you!
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17931 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-08 17:41:07
April 08 2018 17:39 GMT
#266
On April 09 2018 01:51 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2018 01:46 Ibanez.beau wrote:
On April 09 2018 00:25 DSh1 wrote:
So you also want to see one of the parties crucified rather than this settling down and dieing out. I'm convinced some people in 1914 would agree with you.


I believe it's important to reveal who is at fault for those who wish to work with either in the future. After all, it was the players who were being punished for the disagreement.

I just wish everyone involved can get back to work togheter and put this in the past. I think it's in the best interest of everybody, especially for us the fans who just want to see good games.

just to add to your point...
epic, really cool events that include many good games is good for fans.

BTTV has put on some damn cool events. Its unfortunate that occasionally Rifkin gets involved in nasty mudslinging and this somewhat diminishes the solid work he does.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
nigel
Profile Joined September 2010
63 Posts
April 08 2018 17:56 GMT
#267
On April 08 2018 09:54 BasetradeTV wrote:
Following is this pledge, to hold me accountable for, that before May 18th, 2018 I will be depositing the money into the current BTSL Season 1 matcherino, the reasoning for it to not be deposited immediately is to not mess with the current goals & rewards we've been working towards as a community. This money will not be going to my pocket, but towards tournament & players as it was originally intended.

Thank you for helping conclude this ugly chapter.


You've previously stated that ticket proceeds from the matcherino will be used to cover venue costs.



Depositing the money into the matcherino does not necessarily mean the funds will go towards the prize pool, which seems to be what DSK was expecting. Can you make a statement confirming that 100% of the money will go towards the prize pool?
sc-darkness
Profile Joined August 2017
856 Posts
April 08 2018 20:39 GMT
#268
On April 09 2018 02:39 Silvana wrote:
DSK I read your first post and I thought you were joking! What a hero you are. Thank you!


I still think he shouldn't have paid Rifkin but it's his money. I guess Rifkin wanted to save his face by investing money into prize pool.
CHEONSOYUN
Profile Joined August 2017
623 Posts
April 08 2018 21:08 GMT
#269
the matter is not about money; it's about principle

a third party arbitrarily contributing an arbitrary amount of money to resolve a dispute over obligations and commitments is not a resolution.
JAEDONG...!!! EFFORT IS ANGRY. ZERG...?!
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
April 08 2018 21:55 GMT
#270
I think we can move on from this.
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
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