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Aight, this region-lock talk has run its course. Thanks for keeping things civil, but it's time to get back on topic.

Only preliminaries related talk, please.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55583 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-26 11:25:15
March 26 2018 11:19 GMT
#141
On March 26 2018 20:13 Mun_Su wrote:
Did I really saw Byul in the qualifier, is he playing again ?

He never stopped. Like, he was in Code S this season.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
March 26 2018 11:27 GMT
#142
On March 26 2018 20:19 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2018 20:13 Mun_Su wrote:
Did I really saw Byul in the qualifier, is he playing again ?

He never stopped. Like, he was in Code S this season.



touché
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-26 13:29:01
March 26 2018 13:25 GMT
#143
Other than TRUE qualifying, there are no really horrifying results. I'd have liked to see a few different players than the ones who qualified, but I can't complain too much since the racial distribution is decent and there are no non-Koreans. (Yeah, TRUE is a WCS Circuit player, but he had to give up playing for most of the 2016 season to accomplish the switch. That's a lot more to give up than just the cost of a plane ticket and accommodations.)
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1206 Posts
March 26 2018 15:01 GMT
#144
On March 26 2018 22:25 Boggyb wrote:
Other than TRUE qualifying, there are no really horrifying results. I'd have liked to see a few different players than the ones who qualified, but I can't complain too much since the racial distribution is decent and there are no non-Koreans. (Yeah, TRUE is a WCS Circuit player, but he had to give up playing for most of the 2016 season to accomplish the switch. That's a lot more to give up than just the cost of a plane ticket and accommodations.)

Yeah...so TRUE actually played in season 1 and 2 of the GSL, failed to qualify for SSL season 1 and 2, and then won in Montreal. If you didn't like Scarlett or Special or any foreigner because they played in both regions (except they didn't take a top prize away from the resident group), then you really shouldn't like TRUE being here.

TRUE didn't have to give up playing whatsoever and switched to a weaker region.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
March 26 2018 15:06 GMT
#145
On March 26 2018 22:25 Boggyb wrote:
Other than TRUE qualifying, there are no really horrifying results. I'd have liked to see a few different players than the ones who qualified, but I can't complain too much since the racial distribution is decent and there are no non-Koreans. (Yeah, TRUE is a WCS Circuit player, but he had to give up playing for most of the 2016 season to accomplish the switch. That's a lot more to give up than just the cost of a plane ticket and accommodations.)

If you’re against foreigners playing in Korea but TRUE is OK that’s a pretty serious double standard.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 26 2018 15:15 GMT
#146
Who cares about TRUE? Classic is going to win this tournament
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SuaveIsRuff
Profile Joined March 2018
3 Posts
March 26 2018 15:27 GMT
#147
How come GSL qualifiers aren't streamed?
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
March 26 2018 15:30 GMT
#148
On March 27 2018 00:15 Shellshock wrote:
Who cares about TRUE? Classic is going to win this tournament


Na Zest is
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
March 26 2018 15:34 GMT
#149
How on earth did TRUE and Trust qualify over TY and Bunny? Did anyone see what the games looked like? Because those are results that shouldn't happen.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
SuaveIsRuff
Profile Joined March 2018
3 Posts
March 26 2018 15:51 GMT
#150
So is the results in yet?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55583 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-26 16:07:33
March 26 2018 16:00 GMT
#151
On March 27 2018 00:34 Fango wrote:
How on earth did TRUE and Trust qualify over TY and Bunny? Did anyone see what the games looked like? Because those are results that shouldn't happen.

No, nothing seen. But honestly Trust had a very good run and probably just caught fire (beat Elazer, won a map vs Dark, beat Dear, beat Bunny and PvZ is his weakest match-up). TRUE is a pretty unstable player, but on a good day it's not too surprising he can take a series off TY who is very vulnerable against Zerg. If TRUE lost to sOs in the round after he'd probably have lost the rematch to TY, but no dice. After sOs lost to TRUE it was clear TY wasn't gonna qualify.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
March 26 2018 16:05 GMT
#152
On March 27 2018 00:06 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2018 22:25 Boggyb wrote:
Other than TRUE qualifying, there are no really horrifying results. I'd have liked to see a few different players than the ones who qualified, but I can't complain too much since the racial distribution is decent and there are no non-Koreans. (Yeah, TRUE is a WCS Circuit player, but he had to give up playing for most of the 2016 season to accomplish the switch. That's a lot more to give up than just the cost of a plane ticket and accommodations.)

If you’re against foreigners playing in Korea but TRUE is OK that’s a pretty serious double standard.

TRUE gets a pass because he gives me the ability to say that Zerg is so easy that you can F2 your way to the WCS Global Finals.

But more seriously, I wish TRUE weren't playing in Korean events. Players should be forced to choose a region and play only in it outside of specifically designated world wide events. TRUE making it is only 75% as bad as a non-Korean since he at least can't live in Korea for most of the year while flying out to WCS Circuit events.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55583 Posts
March 26 2018 16:09 GMT
#153
On March 27 2018 01:05 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2018 00:06 Solar424 wrote:
On March 26 2018 22:25 Boggyb wrote:
Other than TRUE qualifying, there are no really horrifying results. I'd have liked to see a few different players than the ones who qualified, but I can't complain too much since the racial distribution is decent and there are no non-Koreans. (Yeah, TRUE is a WCS Circuit player, but he had to give up playing for most of the 2016 season to accomplish the switch. That's a lot more to give up than just the cost of a plane ticket and accommodations.)

If you’re against foreigners playing in Korea but TRUE is OK that’s a pretty serious double standard.

TRUE gets a pass because he gives me the ability to say that Zerg is so easy that you can F2 your way to the WCS Global Finals.

But more seriously, I wish TRUE weren't playing in Korean events. Players should be forced to choose a region and play only in it outside of specifically designated world wide events. TRUE making it is only 75% as bad as a non-Korean since he at least can't live in Korea for most of the year while flying out to WCS Circuit events.

To be fair, it's forever until the next main WCS tournament. The size of that gap is so big I understand he'd go to Korea and play there.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
March 26 2018 16:28 GMT
#154
Sad to see True and no TY, but GLAD, really GLAD to see that Scarlett didn't make it. and nothing personnal.
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Gurbak
Profile Joined January 2017
France622 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-26 16:43:31
March 26 2018 16:34 GMT
#155
On March 27 2018 01:28 Mun_Su wrote:
Sad to see True and no TY, but GLAD, really GLAD to see that Scarlett didn't make it. and nothing personnal.

yeah, nothing personnal, like every tl poster shitting on foreigners for years

"i'm really really happy that this specific foreigner lost, but nothing personnal i swear"
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
March 26 2018 16:45 GMT
#156
On March 27 2018 00:34 Fango wrote:
How on earth did TRUE and Trust qualify over TY and Bunny? Did anyone see what the games looked like? Because those are results that shouldn't happen.

They are better players..
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
March 26 2018 17:09 GMT
#157
On March 27 2018 01:34 Gurbak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2018 01:28 Mun_Su wrote:
Sad to see True and no TY, but GLAD, really GLAD to see that Scarlett didn't make it. and nothing personnal.

yeah, nothing personnal, like every tl poster shitting on foreigners for years

"i'm really really happy that this specific foreigner lost, but nothing personnal i swear"



Don't be mad, I'll be glad to see every foreigner failing in Korean just watch my sig. there is a double standard system that is disgusting. Kor can't compete outside Korea, For can come to korea to hone their skills, compete in Korea, and still compete in Foreigner tournament, this is the most biased system ever. Even if stephano was playing GSL (and I love the man) I'll be against him (unless he forfeit participation in foreigner tournaments of course). So stop assuming things.
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1206 Posts
March 26 2018 17:21 GMT
#158
On March 27 2018 02:09 Mun_Su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2018 01:34 Gurbak wrote:
On March 27 2018 01:28 Mun_Su wrote:
Sad to see True and no TY, but GLAD, really GLAD to see that Scarlett didn't make it. and nothing personnal.

yeah, nothing personnal, like every tl poster shitting on foreigners for years

"i'm really really happy that this specific foreigner lost, but nothing personnal i swear"



Don't be mad, I'll be glad to see every foreigner failing in Korean just watch my sig. there is a double standard system that is disgusting. Kor can't compete outside Korea, For can come to korea to hone their skills, compete in Korea, and still compete in Foreigner tournament, this is the most biased system ever. Even if stephano was playing GSL (and I love the man) I'll be against him (unless he forfeit participation in foreigner tournaments of course). So stop assuming things.


Yeah...so those foreigners are actually living in Korea.

If Koreans want to get a visa and live in the US or the EU, they are welcome to do so.

Sure, getting a visa in Korea to other places is more work, but after the initial visa, they're as free as TRUE.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
Vutalisk
Profile Joined August 2016
United States680 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-26 17:36:26
March 26 2018 17:33 GMT
#159
On March 27 2018 02:09 Mun_Su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2018 01:34 Gurbak wrote:
On March 27 2018 01:28 Mun_Su wrote:
Sad to see True and no TY, but GLAD, really GLAD to see that Scarlett didn't make it. and nothing personnal.

yeah, nothing personnal, like every tl poster shitting on foreigners for years

"i'm really really happy that this specific foreigner lost, but nothing personnal i swear"



Don't be mad, I'll be glad to see every foreigner failing in Korean just watch my sig. there is a double standard system that is disgusting. Kor can't compete outside Korea, For can come to korea to hone their skills, compete in Korea, and still compete in Foreigner tournament, this is the most biased system ever. Even if stephano was playing GSL (and I love the man) I'll be against him (unless he forfeit participation in foreigner tournaments of course). So stop assuming things.

LOL. I feel the same way. The ridiculous region-lock is killing Korean SC2 scene. Then, foreigners just move to live in the house in KR and complete at Korean events like no one's business. At this rate, foreigner may actually win GSL eventually as top Korean players will need to go to military soon. No new blood in Korean scene whatsoever. Look like SSL is not coming back so GSL is the only thing left in Korea. It is just sad.

P/S: I give TRUE a pass on competing in Korean events as he is KOREAN after all.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-26 17:37:48
March 26 2018 17:37 GMT
#160
On March 27 2018 02:21 FrkFrJss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2018 02:09 Mun_Su wrote:
On March 27 2018 01:34 Gurbak wrote:
On March 27 2018 01:28 Mun_Su wrote:
Sad to see True and no TY, but GLAD, really GLAD to see that Scarlett didn't make it. and nothing personnal.

yeah, nothing personnal, like every tl poster shitting on foreigners for years

"i'm really really happy that this specific foreigner lost, but nothing personnal i swear"



Don't be mad, I'll be glad to see every foreigner failing in Korean just watch my sig. there is a double standard system that is disgusting. Kor can't compete outside Korea, For can come to korea to hone their skills, compete in Korea, and still compete in Foreigner tournament, this is the most biased system ever. Even if stephano was playing GSL (and I love the man) I'll be against him (unless he forfeit participation in foreigner tournaments of course). So stop assuming things.


Yeah...so those foreigners are actually living in Korea.

If Koreans want to get a visa and live in the US or the EU, they are welcome to do so.

Sure, getting a visa in Korea to other places is more work, but after the initial visa, they're as free as TRUE.

Are the non-Koreans in Korea even on work visas? I suspect no since that should impact their residency for WCS Circuit events, but I'm basing that on nothing concrete. If not, the difference between the process is monumental. Even if they are on work visas, I imagine it is significantly easier since it isn't a permanent residency thing for most of them.
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