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Last Edited: 2018-03-05 15:34:57
March 05 2018 12:14 GMT
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(Wiki)Rogue was surrounded by cloud of doubt headed into the IEM Season XII World Championship—In January, the 2017 WCS Global Champion had flopped out in the RO32 of Code S, leaving many to wonder if Rogue would be yet another champion to suffer a lengthy BlizzCon hangover.

Over the span of four days in Katowice, all such doubts were dispelled. After surviving hard-fought battles in the group stage and RO12 bracket, Rogue once again earned the title of world champion with a 4-0 demolition of Classic in the IEM grand final. TeamLiquid.net had a chance to sit down and chat with Rogue a few hours after he lifted the trophy.

*This interview has been edited and condensed.


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Photo: Bart Oerbekke, ESL


Wax: It might be a trite question, but let's start with 'how do you feel about winning the championship?'

Rogue: First off, I didn't have any expectations, so maybe that's why I feel so overwhelmed. Still, it's a championship I won after having very poor results this year, so I feel happier than when I won BlizzCon last year.

A lot of Korean players say they feel kinda numb the moment after they win a title, and it only really hits them later. When did it hit you after BlizzCon, that you had won the championship?

The way people view me changed a lot, that made me realize it. It really took me by surprise. Whether it was from other players, my family, friends—they all congratulated me for my good result so I felt overwhelmed, I think that's when it hit me.

You said you had poor results this year, but it was really just for one tournament, the GSL. You mentioned during the tournament that you slacked off after BlizzCon—was that the main reason for your poor results?

The fact that I neglected practice—I'm the kind of player who needs to practice a lot—I think that had a big impact. I became lazy. After I dropped out of GSL, I thought to myself "I can't let this happen" and started playing hard again. I could feel that I was playing very poorly, so I worked that much harder.

How do you feel about your skill level? During the tournament you suggested you were still working your way back, that you still had to improve in some areas. Despite that, you won the tournament, even winning the grand finals very easily. Do you still think you're lacking in skill?

I think my ZvT is quite lacking, so I'm planning to work hard on that after I get back to Korea. But I was confident in my ZvP and ZvZ, so even though I didn't expect to get good results, I think I was able to win because things broke SO well in my favor.

You said you didn't completely know the right way to play ZvT at the moment, yet you were able to take out TY and Maru. How did you do that?

Against both of them, I tried to play a safe macro game in the first game, but it was just so hard and difficult. I felt like I couldn't win that way, so I tried to use deception, planned to use all-ins—I didn't play standard—I think that's why I was able to win.



Do you think that kind of mid-series improvisation is an ability you picked up in 2017? At least from my point of view, you used to be a player who could be stubborn in his playstyle. Do you think during your championship runs in 2017, you improved your abilities outside of in-game skill: keeping calm, planning series, picking builds, etc?

In 2017, I think I improved a lot both in terms of skill and mindset, and in my ability to plan series out. It's not like I prepared all-ins for every single game—I think I got in my opponents' heads.

You've been good at all-in type strategies for a long time. Do you think that aspect of your play has improved even further?

I think my win-rate improves when I mix in all-ins as a mindgame, so I use them a lot for mindgaming. Even when I macro, I can see in my opponent's movements when they're worried about all-ins, so I switch back to macro in those cases.

Since I see Elazer sitting over there—you said you were inspired by his Nydus all-in against Classic and used it yourself. Even though Classic had seen a similar strategy before, you made it work again. Did you change it up?

After seeing Elazer's build, that strategy, I added another layer of changes and brought it out.

You said you got lazy after winning BlizzCon last year. Are you worried that you're gonna fall into that pit again now that you've won IEM?

Right now, I'm feeling that I want to work really really hard. But you never know how things work out once you get home and get some quality rest. That's just human nature—back then, I just wanted to keep taking it easy once I laid back. This time, I plan to just go back home for a brief period, so I don't take too much time off.

To be fair, you've won BlizzCon and the IEM World Championship—there's not much left for you to win. In that regard, isn't it hard to set a goal and stay motivated?

Still, I haven't won GSL Code S. It's the biggest Korean tournament. I still want to win GSL Code S at least once.

I heard from someone that after BlizzCon, you cheaped out on buying the other players dinner, even though it's tradition among Korean players to do so. Explain yourself.

Who said that? First off, Blizzard bought us the dinner after BlizzCon, so I didn't have a chance to buy them dinner. And at the airport when we left, I bought expensive hamburgers for everyone. When I got back to Korea, I bought everyone on the team dinner, and I even sent gift packs of beef to TY and Dear. These accusations are absurd.

How did it feel to play in the Spodek Arena in Katowice?

It was my first time playing in such a big arena. It was so new to me, and I was so grateful to the fans.

Okay, anything you want to say to international fans to conclude the interview?

Thanks so much for cheering for me. I'll keep working hard.


Rogue doesn't have twitter, but you can follow his team, the Jin Air Green Wings. Also, follow Wax because something something content creation.
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mLtySC
Profile Joined September 2016
68 Posts
March 05 2018 12:48 GMT
#2
Excellent interview, and I'm already following you for your something something content creation. T.T I do wish Rogue would get a twitter.
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
March 05 2018 12:49 GMT
#3
Great read, tbh the finals were disappointing, but I am not disappointed with rogue as a champion
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Ronin2011
Profile Joined November 2012
Greece30 Posts
March 05 2018 13:15 GMT
#4
Really love his mentality and his playstyle. If God is a deity then its Nestea and Rogue ! Kappa
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 05 2018 13:18 GMT
#5
A shocking twist in the dinnergate.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23578 Posts
March 05 2018 13:25 GMT
#6
On March 05 2018 22:18 Ej_ wrote:
A shocking twist in the dinnergate.

Haha, seems like he was really upset that people were saying this stuff about him.

Thanks Wax for putting these disgusting rumors to rest!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
March 05 2018 14:00 GMT
#7
Rogue used his Blizzcon cheddar to buy players beef. I wonder if they made cheeseburgers.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 05 2018 14:09 GMT
#8
lol, that photo of Rogue is perfect. Looks like he's having an orgasm, which is fitting considering the amount of money he just won.
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Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
March 05 2018 15:14 GMT
#9
well deserved. What a dominant tournament.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13996 Posts
March 05 2018 15:26 GMT
#10
Yea! He sent dear and TY beef. Get it right people gosh.
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28528 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-05 15:41:25
March 05 2018 15:36 GMT
#11
Nice interview. The question remains though; Who did say he didn't buy dinner?

I feel we're missing out on some perfectly fine juicy drama here

I Protoss winner, could it be?
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2455 Posts
March 05 2018 15:57 GMT
#12
I hope he becomes the next GSL Code S champion so he may fulfill his incomplete victories.

Did Rogue actually complete Triple Crown?

BlizzCon WCS Global Final : North America Title (Check)
IEM Katowice : European Title (Check)
Afreeca GSL Super Tournament : Korean Title ( ???)

Because I saw Neeb's victory in Kespa Cup last two years also counted as Korean Title, so technically Rogue also did the same thing.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2455 Posts
March 05 2018 16:00 GMT
#13
If yes, need to update this wikipedia: liquipedia.net
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Corvuuss
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Austria354 Posts
March 05 2018 16:16 GMT
#14
On March 06 2018 00:57 swarminfestor wrote:
I hope he becomes the next GSL Code S champion so he may fulfill his incomplete victories.

Did Rogue actually complete Triple Crown?

BlizzCon WCS Global Final : North America Title (Check)
IEM Katowice : European Title (Check)
Afreeca GSL Super Tournament : Korean Title ( ???)

Because I saw Neeb's victory in Kespa Cup last two years also counted as Korean Title, so technically Rogue also did the same thing.


Yes rogue has gotten the triple crown
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23578 Posts
March 05 2018 17:14 GMT
#15
Rogue has a quadruple crown with winning IEM Shanghai in Asia, but outside of Korea
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Corvuuss
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Austria354 Posts
March 05 2018 17:20 GMT
#16
I think quadruple crown should become a thing
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 05 2018 17:54 GMT
#17
Wasn't it after IEM Shanghai that he shirked his duty of paying for dinner?
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
March 05 2018 19:18 GMT
#18
Yeah it was at IEM shangai I belive, Mal said it in a podcast. But stupid things aside,

Congrats Rogue! I didnt belive enough on you! 4/4 victories in finals, 2 more and the antithesis of soO
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10721 Posts
March 05 2018 20:47 GMT
#19
Great interview, Congrats to Rogue for winning!
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nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany985 Posts
March 05 2018 21:21 GMT
#20
Good interview, thanks!
MoonyD
Profile Joined December 2013
Australia191 Posts
March 05 2018 22:30 GMT
#21
Loved reading his reaction to the accusation that he skimped out on shouting everyone with his Blizzcon money.

Gotta feel bad for Classic though going down the way he did against those all-ins. Poor guy, just when he finally managed to make it to a finals again too.
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Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
March 05 2018 22:47 GMT
#22
The cheese is strong with this one.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
March 05 2018 22:50 GMT
#23
On March 06 2018 00:57 swarminfestor wrote:
I hope he becomes the next GSL Code S champion so he may fulfill his incomplete victories.

Did Rogue actually complete Triple Crown?

BlizzCon WCS Global Final : North America Title (Check)
IEM Katowice : European Title (Check)
Afreeca GSL Super Tournament : Korean Title ( ???)

Because I saw Neeb's victory in Kespa Cup last two years also counted as Korean Title, so technically Rogue also did the same thing.

Be funny if he wins a WESG or something to get the quad.
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KappaKingPrime
Profile Joined May 2014
United States468 Posts
March 05 2018 23:19 GMT
#24
Good read, hopefully he can get GSL title too.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
March 05 2018 23:41 GMT
#25
I'd love to see him pick up a non-weekender in Korea (GSL or SSL if that returns) so people can't try to put an asterisk next to his triple crown.
breaker1328
Profile Joined March 2016
Canada300 Posts
March 06 2018 02:26 GMT
#26
On March 06 2018 08:41 Boggyb wrote:
I'd love to see him pick up a non-weekender in Korea (GSL or SSL if that returns) so people can't try to put an asterisk next to his triple crown.


If Neeb's counts (it does) then Rogue's counts too.
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
March 06 2018 02:59 GMT
#27
Great interview, he seems like a fun guy. Hope he gets to relax for a little and then gives us some more good games!
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VengefulTree
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada637 Posts
March 06 2018 06:48 GMT
#28
I know it's completely irrational and I shouldn't blame someone for being shy and introverted, but I have a hard time cheering for someone who seem so utterly incapable of showing any emotion after winning a world championship. He really brings the most akward celebration I've seen in Starcraft, and that's saying something.

Now I like the fact that he's such a dangerous player, able both to win in the supreme late game and by cheesing, but boy is he hard to connect with (also Maru why)
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DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
March 06 2018 08:00 GMT
#29
StarCraft Wars: Rogue Dinner One.

OT: Good read Wax. Did he actually say he will work hard or did he actually say "I will continue to work hard and show good games"?.
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neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
March 06 2018 11:06 GMT
#30
On March 06 2018 17:00 DSK wrote:
StarCraft Wars: Rogue Dinner One.

OT: Good read Wax. Did he actually say he will work hard or did he actually say "I will continue to work hard and show good games"?.


I also wondered whether or not he intended to show good games.
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ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
March 06 2018 11:11 GMT
#31
What about us, Rogue?
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Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
March 06 2018 20:55 GMT
#32
Awesome, thanks!
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