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Witege
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany5 Posts
February 25 2018 18:05 GMT
#41
1. (P)Classic
2. (Z)Dark
3. (P)sOs
4. (T)INnoVation
5. (Z)soO
6. (P)Stats
7. (T)Maru
8. (T)TY
9. (T)GuMiho
10. (Z)Rogue
Drfilip
Profile Joined March 2013
Sweden590 Posts
February 26 2018 20:34 GMT
#42
So, I think a lot of people need to change their ranks now. Not all favourites made it through today. Not that everyone even had that opportunity in the first place, but now we know some of those who won't be playing group stages.
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28500 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-26 20:43:16
February 26 2018 20:40 GMT
#43
1. (P)Classic
2. (Z)Dark
3. (Z)soO
4. (T)INnoVation
5. (P)sOs
6. (P)Stats
7. (T)Maru
8. (T)TY
9. (T)GuMiho
10. (P)Trap

On February 27 2018 05:34 Drfilip wrote:
So, I think a lot of people need to change their ranks now. Not all favourites made it through today. Not that everyone even had that opportunity in the first place, but now we know some of those who won't be playing group stages.

Should they? I still think Stats is top 10 material even after his loss
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37043 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-26 21:15:47
February 26 2018 21:13 GMT
#44
1. (Z)soO
2. (Z)Dark
3. (P)Classic
4. (T)INnoVation
5. (P)sOs
6. (T)Maru
7. (T)TY
8. (T)GuMiho
9. (P)Stats
10. (P)Zest
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-26 21:50:52
February 26 2018 21:50 GMT
#45
On February 27 2018 06:13 Seeker wrote:
1. (Z)soO
2. (Z)Dark
3. (P)Classic
4. (T)INnoVation
5. (P)sOs
6. (T)Maru
7. (T)TY
8. (T)GuMiho
9. (P)Stats
10. (P)Zest


The 30k post in the community PR, respect!
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
CannedCornn
Profile Joined January 2018
3 Posts
February 26 2018 22:25 GMT
#46
1. (P)Classic
2. (P)sOs
3. (Z)soO
4. (Z)Dark
5 (T)INnoVation
6. (T)TY
7. (T)GuMiho
8. (P)Zest
9. (P)Stats
10. (Z)Impact
sOs please
Drfilip
Profile Joined March 2013
Sweden590 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-27 09:35:14
February 27 2018 09:27 GMT
#47
On February 27 2018 05:40 Penev wrote:
1. (P)Classic
2. (Z)Dark
3. (Z)soO
4. (T)INnoVation
5. (P)sOs
6. (P)Stats
7. (T)Maru
8. (T)TY
9. (T)GuMiho
10. (P)Trap

Show nested quote +
On February 27 2018 05:34 Drfilip wrote:
So, I think a lot of people need to change their ranks now. Not all favourites made it through today. Not that everyone even had that opportunity in the first place, but now we know some of those who won't be playing group stages.

Should they? I still think + Show Spoiler +
Stats
is top 10 material even after his loss

Since the dead-line is tomorrow and you are to submit your players in IEM, I thought that you should only include players that are still in the IEM at the dead-line.
An analogy: it seems strange to me to say that INnoVation is the best player in the code S. He is knocked out now, but he was participating earlier.
At the moment + Show Spoiler +
Stats
is not participating in the IEM. He was beaten by two other players and got knocked out.
Random Platinum EU
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
February 27 2018 09:49 GMT
#48
1. (Z)Dark
2. (P)Classic
3. (T)INnoVation
4. (P)sOs
5. (T)TY
6. (Z)soO
7. (P)Stats
8. (Z)Impact
9. (P)Zest
10. (Z)Solar
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Azhrak
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland1196 Posts
February 27 2018 09:53 GMT
#49
1. (T)INnoVation
2. (P)Classic
3. (Z)Dark
4. (Z)soO
5. (T)TY
6. (P)sOs
7. (T)GuMiho
8. (Z)Serral
9. (Z)Rogue
10. (Z)Elazer
starcraft2.fi
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 27 2018 10:30 GMT
#50
Didn't realise we could change our list after the open bracket. Some editing to do tonight I guess .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28500 Posts
February 27 2018 11:27 GMT
#51
On February 27 2018 18:27 Drfilip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2018 05:40 Penev wrote:
1. (P)Classic
2. (Z)Dark
3. (Z)soO
4. (T)INnoVation
5. (P)sOs
6. (P)Stats
7. (T)Maru
8. (T)TY
9. (T)GuMiho
10. (P)Trap

On February 27 2018 05:34 Drfilip wrote:
So, I think a lot of people need to change their ranks now. Not all favourites made it through today. Not that everyone even had that opportunity in the first place, but now we know some of those who won't be playing group stages.

Should they? I still think + Show Spoiler +
Stats
is top 10 material even after his loss

Since the dead-line is tomorrow and you are to submit your players in IEM, I thought that you should only include players that are still in the IEM at the dead-line.
An analogy: it seems strange to me to say that INnoVation is the best player in the code S. He is knocked out now, but he was participating earlier.
At the moment + Show Spoiler +
Stats
is not participating in the IEM. He was beaten by two other players and got knocked out.

The deadline should have been before the whole tournament. The OP, The_Red_Viper, really dropped the ball this time
I Protoss winner, could it be?
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 27 2018 14:18 GMT
#52
On February 27 2018 20:27 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2018 18:27 Drfilip wrote:
On February 27 2018 05:40 Penev wrote:
1. (P)Classic
2. (Z)Dark
3. (Z)soO
4. (T)INnoVation
5. (P)sOs
6. (P)Stats
7. (T)Maru
8. (T)TY
9. (T)GuMiho
10. (P)Trap

On February 27 2018 05:34 Drfilip wrote:
So, I think a lot of people need to change their ranks now. Not all favourites made it through today. Not that everyone even had that opportunity in the first place, but now we know some of those who won't be playing group stages.

Should they? I still think + Show Spoiler +
Stats
is top 10 material even after his loss

Since the dead-line is tomorrow and you are to submit your players in IEM, I thought that you should only include players that are still in the IEM at the dead-line.
An analogy: it seems strange to me to say that INnoVation is the best player in the code S. He is knocked out now, but he was participating earlier.
At the moment + Show Spoiler +
Stats
is not participating in the IEM. He was beaten by two other players and got knocked out.

The deadline should have been before the whole tournament. The OP, The_Red_Viper, really dropped the ball this time


It maybe should have been, but i really wanted to do it after gsl ro16 is done for example.
Now people can include the resuls of the open brackets for their list as well if they want to, which is only one aspect though and i don't agree with "he is out he cannot be the in a PR for the event anymore". The best player definitely could lose before with bad luck, etc.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 27 2018 15:02 GMT
#53
1. (P)Classic
2. (Z)Dark
3. (P)sOs
4. (Z)soO
5. (T)Maru
6. (T)INnoVation
7. (P)Zest
8. (Z)Scarlett
9. (P)Stats
10. (T)TY
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
February 27 2018 15:39 GMT
#54
On February 25 2018 03:23 Mun_Su wrote:
1. (T)INnoVation
2. (P)Classic
3. (Z)Dark
4. (P)sOs
5. (Z)soO
6. (T)TY
7. (P)Zest
8. (Z)Solar
9. (T)GuMiho
10. (Z)Serral



I updated mine, Stats is now out. I also took Rogue out. I bring in Solar and Zest, they impressed me.



My new list is now updated. I will be joy if Classic and INno face each other in the final
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Drfilip
Profile Joined March 2013
Sweden590 Posts
February 28 2018 10:07 GMT
#55
On February 27 2018 23:18 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2018 20:27 Penev wrote:
On February 27 2018 18:27 Drfilip wrote:
On February 27 2018 05:40 Penev wrote:
1. (P)Classic
2. (Z)Dark
3. (Z)soO
4. (T)INnoVation
5. (P)sOs
6. (P)Stats
7. (T)Maru
8. (T)TY
9. (T)GuMiho
10. (P)Trap

On February 27 2018 05:34 Drfilip wrote:
So, I think a lot of people need to change their ranks now. Not all favourites made it through today. Not that everyone even had that opportunity in the first place, but now we know some of those who won't be playing group stages.

Should they? I still think + Show Spoiler +
Stats
is top 10 material even after his loss

Since the dead-line is tomorrow and you are to submit your players in IEM, I thought that you should only include players that are still in the IEM at the dead-line.
An analogy: it seems strange to me to say that INnoVation is the best player in the code S. He is knocked out now, but he was participating earlier.
At the moment + Show Spoiler +
Stats
is not participating in the IEM. He was beaten by two other players and got knocked out.

The deadline should have been before the whole tournament. The OP, The_Red_Viper, really dropped the ball this time


It maybe should have been, but i really wanted to do it after gsl ro16 is done for example.
Now people can include the resuls of the open brackets for their list as well if they want to, which is only one aspect though and i don't agree with "he is out he cannot be the in a PR for the event anymore". The best player definitely could lose before with bad luck, etc.

I thought you set the dead-line this late in order for people to read the TL staff PR before making up their own mind, not for them to include the results of the open bracket.

Also, I like your sentiment regarding good players being knocked out.
Losing a couple of games doesn't mean that they are losing their touch. No player has a 100% win rate. Byun was close with his 30+ straight wins in 2016, not a single game lost in official matches.
A 70% win rate is awesome. A 71% win rate was possible for losers in the open bracket. 1-2 loss in the first round. 2-0 wins until losers' bracket final. 1-2 loss to be knocked out. 10-4 game record and still losing.
+ Show Spoiler +
Bunny had a 9-4 record and Scarlett had a 9-5 record while losing. 69% and 64% respectively. Compare that to the qualified players from the losers' bracket (winners' bracket had only 3 matches):
Ryung 8-4 67%
True 8-6 57%
SpeCial 9-4 69%
Neeb 10-4 71%
Bunny and Scarlett were quite close to these players in win percentage.

Mean for Bunny and Scarlett: 67%
Mean for Ryung, True, SpeCial and Neeb: 66%

True had so many 2-1 series. He made the mean of advancing players go below the mean of these two non-advancing players.
Random Platinum EU
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
February 28 2018 10:31 GMT
#56
1. (P)Classic
2. (Z)Dark
3. (P)sOs
4. (T)INnoVation
5. (T)Maru
6. (T)TY
7. (T)GuMiho
8. (Z)Serral
9. (P)Zest
10. (Z)Solar
why even
leublix
Profile Joined May 2017
493 Posts
February 28 2018 10:49 GMT
#57
1. (T)Maru
2. (P)Classic
3. (Z)Dark
4. (T)INnoVation
5. (T)TY
6. (P)sOs
7. (P)Zest
8. (Z)Solar
9. (Z)Serral
10. (T)GuMiho
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
February 28 2018 15:51 GMT
#58
1. (P)Classic
2. (Z)Dark
3. (T)INnoVation
4. (P)sOs
5. (T)TY
6. (Z)soO
7. (T)Maru
8. (T)GuMiho
9. (P)Zest
10. (P)Stats
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-28 16:07:14
February 28 2018 16:06 GMT
#59
Classic, community hates writers' PR but can't finish their own in time and then people quickly make edits once players they've ranked highly are out, or post after the Open Bracket is done, making this entire thing completely worthless.

C L A S S I C

Writers > Community
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 28 2018 16:09 GMT
#60
I already explained why "it's not on time".
It's also not completely worthless either way because strictly speaking the event starts tomorrow (though ideally i would have liked it to have been out before the open qualifiers as well)
The problem with the community PR is that i have to give people enough time to make up their mind, otherwise i get like 10 lists.

Again, this is no competition either
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
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