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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
January 25 2018 23:05 GMT
#21
On January 26 2018 05:27 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2018 03:04 Killmo wrote:
On January 26 2018 02:47 Xamo wrote:
On January 26 2018 01:44 TheDougler wrote:
Scarlett has been in rare form lately, I feel like she and Serral are both likely to give Neeb a run for his money.

I doubt it, ScarlettvP is a pretty broken matchup.

Yeah. She reminds me a little bit of IdrA in that she is so damn good, but then she lets the belief that Protoss is absolutely unbeatable get into her head so she just can't pull the wins out like she can against Zerg and Terran.


I bet you Idra has an-Arya like list of names and it’s tree people: HuK, Cruncher, MC...



For reals tho Scarlett’s mental game is miles better than Idra’s... though yeah it could be better.

"Better mental than Idra" is a really low bar.
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ploguidice
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States230 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-26 14:52:55
January 26 2018 02:29 GMT
#22
<div style="float: left; padding-right: 10px;"><img src="http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Waxangel/misc/raviface.png"></div>"Cheesadelphia was a game of who can take a game off of Neeb. He lost two games: One game he lost to Masa, and the other game he lost to himself. Neeb still had some close games, not only losing that one game to Masa—which I think was a very legitimate game to lose—but he also had a close game versus Cham. If you go look at game one of the finals of Cheeseadelphia, Cham looked really solid there."


Could you please edit the link to go to our channel and not the one currently linked? Proper link is here
. The one in the article is a content theft channel that uses bots to get games uploaded hours after the broadcast ends :\

Edit: Thanks for fixing this! I appreciate it <3
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PinheadXXXXXX
Profile Joined February 2012
United States897 Posts
January 26 2018 05:42 GMT
#23
On January 26 2018 03:04 Killmo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2018 02:47 Xamo wrote:
On January 26 2018 01:44 TheDougler wrote:
Scarlett has been in rare form lately, I feel like she and Serral are both likely to give Neeb a run for his money.

I doubt it, ScarlettvP is a pretty broken matchup.

Yeah. She reminds me a little bit of IdrA in that she is so damn good, but then she lets the belief that Protoss is absolutely unbeatable get into her head so she just can't pull the wins out like she can against Zerg and Terran.

Yeah, she plays so confident and smooth in ZvZ and ZvT even when she's way behind, and it's what wins her games, but she doesn't do the same against Protoss.
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KR_4EVR
Profile Joined July 2017
316 Posts
January 26 2018 21:52 GMT
#24
Can Neeb be beaten? Not yet!
Et tu Brute ?
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 26 2018 21:57 GMT
#25
On January 27 2018 06:52 KR_4EVR wrote:
Can Neeb be beaten? Not yet!

Except by Lambo
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 26 2018 22:07 GMT
#26
On January 27 2018 06:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
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On January 27 2018 06:52 KR_4EVR wrote:
Can Neeb be beaten? Not yet!

Except by Lambo


Dropping a series in Group Stage 3 is par for the course for Neeb oddly enough.
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-26 22:12:41
January 26 2018 22:11 GMT
#27
Wouldn't have been able to CLUTCH that series against Zanster had he not lost to Lambo beforehand.
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DSh1
Profile Joined April 2017
292 Posts
January 26 2018 23:01 GMT
#28
On January 27 2018 07:11 Crocolisk Dundee wrote:
Wouldn't have been able to CLUTCH that series against Zanster had he not lost to Lambo beforehand.


Haha. So true
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4501 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-26 23:16:41
January 26 2018 23:16 GMT
#29
Neeb loves to experience the taste of defeat early at WCS events so that he doesn't need to later in playoffs
hi. big fan.
PuddleZerg
Profile Joined August 2015
United States82 Posts
January 27 2018 01:03 GMT
#30
You can wish and wish that Neeb will be your foreign hope. He'll fall like the rest of them when the times comes.
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FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4501 Posts
January 27 2018 01:15 GMT
#31
On January 27 2018 10:03 PuddleZerg wrote:
You can wish and wish that Neeb will be your foreign hope. He'll fall like the rest of them when the times comes.

Considering this is a WCS thread, I'm not sure your post fits here.
hi. big fan.
ObamaAteMyKFC
Profile Joined January 2018
2 Posts
January 27 2018 03:47 GMT
#32
That was the longest "no" I've ever read...
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1598 Posts
January 27 2018 08:26 GMT
#33
On January 27 2018 10:15 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2018 10:03 PuddleZerg wrote:
You can wish and wish that Neeb will be your foreign hope. He'll fall like the rest of them when the times comes.

Considering this is a WCS thread, I'm not sure your post fits here.


Don't WCS events give points and seeding to the grand finals @ blizzcon? So, it would be valid. A foreign player is playing mediocre starcraft and will be gifted a spot in the finals this year. There are 50+ koreans that are better than him, but since he gets free seeding into the main event those 50 don't stand a shot. So, fluff articles like this, while giving press for the neglected WCS, just mislead people into thinking he is anywhere near the skill level of Korean pros.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33389 Posts
January 27 2018 08:31 GMT
#34
On January 27 2018 17:26 NoobSkills wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2018 10:15 FataLe wrote:
On January 27 2018 10:03 PuddleZerg wrote:
You can wish and wish that Neeb will be your foreign hope. He'll fall like the rest of them when the times comes.

Considering this is a WCS thread, I'm not sure your post fits here.


Don't WCS events give points and seeding to the grand finals @ blizzcon? So, it would be valid. A foreign player is playing mediocre starcraft and will be gifted a spot in the finals this year. There are 50+ koreans that are better than him, but since he gets free seeding into the main event those 50 don't stand a shot. So, fluff articles like this, while giving press for the neglected WCS, just mislead people into thinking he is anywhere near the skill level of Korean pros.


There aren't even 50 pros in Korea
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NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1598 Posts
January 27 2018 08:39 GMT
#35
On January 27 2018 17:31 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2018 17:26 NoobSkills wrote:
On January 27 2018 10:15 FataLe wrote:
On January 27 2018 10:03 PuddleZerg wrote:
You can wish and wish that Neeb will be your foreign hope. He'll fall like the rest of them when the times comes.

Considering this is a WCS thread, I'm not sure your post fits here.


Don't WCS events give points and seeding to the grand finals @ blizzcon? So, it would be valid. A foreign player is playing mediocre starcraft and will be gifted a spot in the finals this year. There are 50+ koreans that are better than him, but since he gets free seeding into the main event those 50 don't stand a shot. So, fluff articles like this, while giving press for the neglected WCS, just mislead people into thinking he is anywhere near the skill level of Korean pros.


There aren't even 50 pros in Korea


Including B teamers? I guess I am loosely using the term pro, but I would say there are at the very least 50 korean SC players who are better than him. And it was proven last grand finals. Foreigners had like 50% of the spots, by the time they went to the RO8 they only made up 25% and the only reason they were any % in the RO4 was they faced each other in the RO8.

I wouldn't mind if there were 2 foreign seeds, that the top 32 or 16 foreigners had to fight for, but giving them half the seeds to the grand finals screw better players out of money that they should be contending for.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-27 08:48:30
January 27 2018 08:48 GMT
#36
On January 27 2018 17:39 NoobSkills wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2018 17:31 Waxangel wrote:
On January 27 2018 17:26 NoobSkills wrote:
On January 27 2018 10:15 FataLe wrote:
On January 27 2018 10:03 PuddleZerg wrote:
You can wish and wish that Neeb will be your foreign hope. He'll fall like the rest of them when the times comes.

Considering this is a WCS thread, I'm not sure your post fits here.


Don't WCS events give points and seeding to the grand finals @ blizzcon? So, it would be valid. A foreign player is playing mediocre starcraft and will be gifted a spot in the finals this year. There are 50+ koreans that are better than him, but since he gets free seeding into the main event those 50 don't stand a shot. So, fluff articles like this, while giving press for the neglected WCS, just mislead people into thinking he is anywhere near the skill level of Korean pros.


There aren't even 50 pros in Korea


Including B teamers? I guess I am loosely using the term pro, but I would say there are at the very least 50 korean SC players who are better than him. And it was proven last grand finals. Foreigners had like 50% of the spots, by the time they went to the RO8 they only made up 25% and the only reason they were any % in the RO4 was they faced each other in the RO8.

I wouldn't mind if there were 2 foreign seeds, that the top 32 or 16 foreigners had to fight for, but giving them half the seeds to the grand finals screw better players out of money that they should be contending for.


You're saying nonsense dude. Here's a ranking of Korean players: http://aligulac.com/periods/207/?page=1&sort=&race=ptzrs&nats=KR. By the time you reach rank ~50, you're hanging out with people like Dandy, Soloist, HHQuanta who are amateurs who have around 6k MMR on the Korean server.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12883 Posts
January 27 2018 11:42 GMT
#37
On January 27 2018 17:26 NoobSkills wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2018 10:15 FataLe wrote:
On January 27 2018 10:03 PuddleZerg wrote:
You can wish and wish that Neeb will be your foreign hope. He'll fall like the rest of them when the times comes.

Considering this is a WCS thread, I'm not sure your post fits here.


Don't WCS events give points and seeding to the grand finals @ blizzcon? So, it would be valid. A foreign player is playing mediocre starcraft and will be gifted a spot in the finals this year. There are 50+ koreans that are better than him, but since he gets free seeding into the main event those 50 don't stand a shot. So, fluff articles like this, while giving press for the neglected WCS, just mislead people into thinking he is anywhere near the skill level of Korean pros.

You realize that he might be top 3 protoss KR included? :x
He is for sure top 16 world when playing at his best.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15961 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-27 15:42:40
January 27 2018 15:37 GMT
#38
On January 27 2018 20:42 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2018 17:26 NoobSkills wrote:
On January 27 2018 10:15 FataLe wrote:
On January 27 2018 10:03 PuddleZerg wrote:
You can wish and wish that Neeb will be your foreign hope. He'll fall like the rest of them when the times comes.

Considering this is a WCS thread, I'm not sure your post fits here.


Don't WCS events give points and seeding to the grand finals @ blizzcon? So, it would be valid. A foreign player is playing mediocre starcraft and will be gifted a spot in the finals this year. There are 50+ koreans that are better than him, but since he gets free seeding into the main event those 50 don't stand a shot. So, fluff articles like this, while giving press for the neglected WCS, just mislead people into thinking he is anywhere near the skill level of Korean pros.

You realize that he might be top 3 protoss KR included? :x
He is for sure top 16 world when playing at his best.

no way. Classic, Stats, Zest, herO, Dear and sOs are all much better than him.
Since his Kespa Cup win he bombed out of every global tournament, WCS just gives the illusion that he's this untouchable god who can 4-0 peak INnoVation but the reality is different.
last year he tried GSL and got destroyed in the qualifiers by Hurricane.

for the other races Inno, TY, Maru, Byun, Gumiho, aLive, Dark, Rogue, Solar and soO are definitely better than him so he barely can't be top 16.
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
January 27 2018 15:42 GMT
#39
Gosu Protoss Neeb ftw
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
YourFavoriteTerran
Profile Joined November 2017
33 Posts
January 27 2018 16:15 GMT
#40
My friends and I haven't been able to watch the tournament. We went to go get some snacks from the kitchen, Neeb is camping in his base. We come back, he's camping in his base. These games just aren't exciting anymore. I miss the glory days where there were you weren't able to set a timer for the game ending based on the bases and the builds. There's nothing exciting about oracle harass because it's nearly impossible to lose an oracle so there's no real micro feeling to it. My friends had to wake me up when the match was over and they were laughing saying they shouldn't of slept last night so they could take a nap now too.

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