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Rogue wins the Grand Finals at BlizzCon; soO takes second…

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alpenrahm
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany629 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-05 16:38:46
November 05 2017 16:38 GMT
#81
I´m so done with this soO character. I wish he d just get lost somewhere in the groupphase so we can have a real finals instead of his bullshit.
Descent
Profile Joined January 2008
1244 Posts
November 05 2017 17:03 GMT
#82
Either soO or TY would have been a good narrative, but Rogue just went "Nope!" Honestly TY should have won 3-0 against Rogue but he threw game 3 away by clowning around (6 EBays at one point?) and then just lost control of the series. A TY vs. soO finals was what a lot of people were hoping for after the Ro8.
「 Dream & Future 」 ※ 「 STX SouL 」
Zephyp
Profile Joined April 2013
238 Posts
November 05 2017 17:14 GMT
#83
I felt for soO after the two ling rush games. First Rogue does it and wins, then soO does it and loses. That's two points to Rogue in 10 minutes.
terran4lyfe
Profile Joined December 2013
United States72 Posts
November 05 2017 17:30 GMT
#84
On November 06 2017 01:38 alpenrahm wrote:
I´m so done with this soO character. I wish he d just get lost somewhere in the groupphase so we can have a real finals instead of his bullshit.

yep
glhf
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55578 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-05 17:37:35
November 05 2017 17:37 GMT
#85
On November 06 2017 02:03 Descent wrote:
Honestly TY should have won 3-0 against Rogue but he threw game 3 away by clowning around (6 EBays at one point?

He only had unupgraded marines and Rogue was gonna baneling bust him until he saw that ebay wall.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
November 05 2017 18:21 GMT
#86
On November 05 2017 10:53 DieuCure wrote:
JinAir deserve that.

But soO, seriously, do something for him, it's really sad ...

same feeling, seriously at this point this is not even funny or worth a meme, that last game it looks like the dude completely gave up

that's a sad story
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
November 05 2017 18:34 GMT
#87
wait he still hasn't won a GSL and now he finished 2nd at blizzcon?
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
November 05 2017 18:44 GMT
#88
On November 06 2017 03:34 boxerfred wrote:
wait he still hasn't won a GSL and now he finished 2nd at blizzcon?

yes
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
November 05 2017 18:46 GMT
#89
some things never change
Lazare1969
Profile Joined September 2014
United States318 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-05 18:51:05
November 05 2017 18:49 GMT
#90
Poll: soO's new nickname is...

(Vote): 2oO
(Vote): soOcond
(Vote): soOlver
(Vote): soOⁿᵈ
(Vote): 2soOn
(Vote): soObstitute
(Vote): soOrrogate
(Vote): soObseqeuent



User was warned for this post
6 trillion
washikie
Profile Joined February 2011
United States752 Posts
November 05 2017 18:54 GMT
#91
I predicted rouge would win. I was correct.
"when life gives Hero lemons he makes carriers" -Artosis
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
November 05 2017 19:14 GMT
#92
On November 06 2017 02:03 Descent wrote:
Either soO or TY would have been a good narrative, but Rogue just went "Nope!" Honestly TY should have won 3-0 against Rogue but he threw game 3 away by clowning around (6 EBays at one point?) and then just lost control of the series. A TY vs. soO finals was what a lot of people were hoping for after the Ro8.

I can understand why people think soO winning would have been a good narrative even if I don't agree, but how would TY winning would have been a good narrative? He had a pretty decent 2016 and had won a boatload of money already in 2017. Do you really think "good player wins a boatload of cash" is a good narrative?

Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
November 05 2017 19:17 GMT
#93
On November 05 2017 22:04 BigRedDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 20:52 KappaKingPrime wrote:
On November 05 2017 17:23 Serimek wrote:
SoO... Poor cursed one... :'(

It's a fun meme, but in reality he got to finals with bracket luck and Rogue just outplayed him.


Not sure what luck are you talking about.


It was not a meme at all. Just a (legitimate) reaction to SoO's ninth 2nd place in Premier, a fact that has nothing to do with bracket luck or Rogue's superior play.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
November 05 2017 19:22 GMT
#94
On November 06 2017 03:46 boxerfred wrote:
some things never change

Yeah, that's the first time I log into TL in a while, and I see this. That's really sad
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zealotstim
Profile Joined February 2015
United States455 Posts
November 05 2017 19:22 GMT
#95
On November 05 2017 19:55 Vindicare605 wrote:
So at this point how much money has soO won off of second place finishes?

Serious question here, he must be one of the highest paid Starcraft players ever and yet most of that is off of second placings. I don't know how you can seriously want to retire when that is the case? i mean yea it sucks to lose but its not like he ISNT a successful progamer.


Looks like he's made somewhere around $264,980 from big tournaments
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
November 05 2017 19:32 GMT
#96
On November 06 2017 04:22 zealotstim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 19:55 Vindicare605 wrote:
So at this point how much money has soO won off of second place finishes?

Serious question here, he must be one of the highest paid Starcraft players ever and yet most of that is off of second placings. I don't know how you can seriously want to retire when that is the case? i mean yea it sucks to lose but its not like he ISNT a successful progamer.


Looks like he's made somewhere around $264,980 from big tournaments


All things considered, Aligulac rate him as the 14th most paid.
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
Descent
Profile Joined January 2008
1244 Posts
November 05 2017 20:09 GMT
#97
On November 06 2017 04:14 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2017 02:03 Descent wrote:
Either soO or TY would have been a good narrative, but Rogue just went "Nope!" Honestly TY should have won 3-0 against Rogue but he threw game 3 away by clowning around (6 EBays at one point?) and then just lost control of the series. A TY vs. soO finals was what a lot of people were hoping for after the Ro8.

I can understand why people think soO winning would have been a good narrative even if I don't agree, but how would TY winning would have been a good narrative? He had a pretty decent 2016 and had won a boatload of money already in 2017. Do you really think "good player wins a boatload of cash" is a good narrative?



If TY won Blizzcon 2017 it would have made him the highest earning player in SC2, passing MVP. TY also said that he's thinking of retiring in his intro vid, like soO it would have been a capstone to a long career.
「 Dream & Future 」 ※ 「 STX SouL 」
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 05 2017 20:33 GMT
#98
Rogue my boy. New hero
Zerg for Life
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
November 05 2017 21:29 GMT
#99
On November 06 2017 05:09 Descent wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2017 04:14 Boggyb wrote:
On November 06 2017 02:03 Descent wrote:
Either soO or TY would have been a good narrative, but Rogue just went "Nope!" Honestly TY should have won 3-0 against Rogue but he threw game 3 away by clowning around (6 EBays at one point?) and then just lost control of the series. A TY vs. soO finals was what a lot of people were hoping for after the Ro8.

I can understand why people think soO winning would have been a good narrative even if I don't agree, but how would TY winning would have been a good narrative? He had a pretty decent 2016 and had won a boatload of money already in 2017. Do you really think "good player wins a boatload of cash" is a good narrative?



If TY won Blizzcon 2017 it would have made him the highest earning player in SC2, passing MVP. TY also said that he's thinking of retiring in his intro vid, like soO it would have been a capstone to a long career.


Isn't he already above MVP but still behind MC and Life ?
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
KR_4EVR
Profile Joined July 2017
316 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-05 22:06:31
November 05 2017 22:05 GMT
#100
On November 05 2017 13:56 ParksonVN wrote:

Uncomparable, Rogue doesn’t rely on broken unit like Reaper.


Like the swarmhost isn't? I'm not so sure...


Five points from this year and five pointers for next year:

1) Nathanias made a great couch controller.
2) All races made a comparable stretch into bracket based on original proportions.
3) FREE TO PLAY HYPE!!!
4) Most of the stuff was free to watch in 720p on Twitch. (Still, the # of people mistaking 5 ARMY for 5 APM were hilarious)
5) Special giving Stats a run for his money!!!!

1) Next year, please change the format to:
RO 16: 4 Groups, BO5, double-elimination
RO 8: 2 Groups, BO5, double-elimination
Semifinals - Finals: BO 7
2) Next year, please rescale the prizepool (see previous post about skew). It's already a generous hunk of $$$ so this doesn't matter as much as it might otherwise.
3) Casting ethos, part A: I can't believe casters failed to mention how many 2-3 reverse sweeps TY has been through this year. I want informed casters who will share useful stuff.
4) Casting ethos, part B: I don't care if soO has lost 7 finals. It's unacceptable to talk about a player just through that kind of lens. Winning/Losing is 10% of the game. Content is 90%. What I heard this year is the equivalent of everytime you talk to a disabled person, only talking about their disability. Not OK. {If you're reading this, soO, I believe in you still. You have the best ZVP in the world!!!}
5) Mr. sound person......... pls balance the audio.
Et tu Brute ?
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