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INnoVation, Rogue, Dark & herO reach the semifinals of the…

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Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
October 01 2017 20:28 GMT
#21
On October 02 2017 04:39 Olli wrote:
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On October 02 2017 04:22 pvsnp wrote:
On October 02 2017 03:25 DieuCure wrote:
On October 02 2017 03:09 Olli wrote:
On October 02 2017 02:57 Mun_Su wrote:
On October 02 2017 02:50 Olli wrote:
On October 02 2017 02:47 Mun_Su wrote:
On October 01 2017 18:49 Olli wrote:
On October 01 2017 18:48 KaijuHK wrote:
Did Innovation throw that last game with Rogue by any chance?

Perhaps he doesn't like SOS or would prefer not to play him in the global finals? :D


Nah, he just got outplayed. Rogue is insanely good right now.


Yaye, he got outplayed by a strong 2-3, what an outplay...


I was talking about the first game. But yeah, he did overall get outplayed. But hey, your signature tells me you're completely unbiased about the matter.




If you have nothing pertinent to say then yes go to the signature.

I already saw him got dismantled by Dear or Classic in SSL, liking a player has nothing to do with seeing him fail. But 3-2 is everything but an outplay.



Outplaying happens inside the game. You can't look at a scoreline and say Rogue didn't outplay him. That's just foolish. I saw the games and Rogue looked the better player between the two.


Yes + the fact that Rogue threw a map.

And INno had to be super greedy to win the other

Inno holding a cheese is not exactly the same as Rogue throwing a map. If you're going to say that you might as well say Inno threw two maps by going mech. And speaking of greed, Rogue won the last game precisely because he was greedier (plus the map factor of a gold base).

Winning in the decider match is not a stomp by any means. It was a close series between two players of equal skill, and if they played again tomorrow I would give them both 50/50.


Who's talking about a stomp? I said Rogue outplayed him. That means he played better, which he did.




Well for me outplay mean playing waaay better in every compartiment of the game, which wasn't the case here,
Maybe i, didnt understand, wel
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
October 01 2017 21:23 GMT
#22
On October 02 2017 04:39 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2017 04:22 pvsnp wrote:
On October 02 2017 03:25 DieuCure wrote:
On October 02 2017 03:09 Olli wrote:
On October 02 2017 02:57 Mun_Su wrote:
On October 02 2017 02:50 Olli wrote:
On October 02 2017 02:47 Mun_Su wrote:
On October 01 2017 18:49 Olli wrote:
On October 01 2017 18:48 KaijuHK wrote:
Did Innovation throw that last game with Rogue by any chance?

Perhaps he doesn't like SOS or would prefer not to play him in the global finals? :D


Nah, he just got outplayed. Rogue is insanely good right now.


Yaye, he got outplayed by a strong 2-3, what an outplay...


I was talking about the first game. But yeah, he did overall get outplayed. But hey, your signature tells me you're completely unbiased about the matter.




If you have nothing pertinent to say then yes go to the signature.

I already saw him got dismantled by Dear or Classic in SSL, liking a player has nothing to do with seeing him fail. But 3-2 is everything but an outplay.



Outplaying happens inside the game. You can't look at a scoreline and say Rogue didn't outplay him. That's just foolish. I saw the games and Rogue looked the better player between the two.


Yes + the fact that Rogue threw a map.

And INno had to be super greedy to win the other

Inno holding a cheese is not exactly the same as Rogue throwing a map. If you're going to say that you might as well say Inno threw two maps by going mech. And speaking of greed, Rogue won the last game precisely because he was greedier (plus the map factor of a gold base).

Winning in the decider match is not a stomp by any means. It was a close series between two players of equal skill, and if they played again tomorrow I would give them both 50/50.


Who's talking about a stomp? I said Rogue outplayed him. That means he played better, which he did.

I think you are using a different definition of outplay. I treat it as a synonym for outclass, by which I mean one player simply looks on a different level than the other. I would use the term to describe onesided games in which it looked like one player was always going to win.

The games yesterday were not an example of that. Rogue played slightly better and won 3-2. I would not use "outplayed" to describe that situation, but I suppose other people would.
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