EPTOn July 22 2017 02:47 [PkF] Wire wrote:
INno is so good he wins team events alone now according to title ^^
INno is so good he wins team events alone now according to title ^^
Tips For Any Teamleague:
1. Get INnoVation
2. Win by virtue of (1)
Team INnoVation wins VSL Teamleague - Finals Day Recap - P…
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
Tips For Any Teamleague: 1. Get INnoVation 2. Win by virtue of (1) | ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On July 22 2017 02:55 pvsnp wrote: Tips For Any Teamleague: 1. Get INnoVation 2. Win by virtue of (1) Don't forget 3. Don't send out Solar | ||
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Clazziquai10
Singapore1949 Posts
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Carminedust
487 Posts
On July 22 2017 00:13 mizenhauer wrote: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Proleague Seventh on wins in Proleague history, sixth among the top ten winningest players in ace match wins. Don't think there's any way you can make an argument that Inno is even a top 5 team league player in SC2. i always like looking at that page mainly to see rain being 14-8 in ace matches and some how Roro being number 10 on that list when not playing 2 seasons of proleauge | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
For example for Stats it says 67-39 aka 63% winrate, but having gone through each year his total is 99-54, giving him 65% winrate For Maru it says is 57-35 and 62%, which was his score from HoTS (2014-15). His total including 2016 is 79-39, which is 67% It gives sOs 92-47 as well, which should be 110-63 aka 64% | ||
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beepbeeeeeeep
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ZertoN
Germany214 Posts
Stuchiu put him in the Top 3, with MMA and TaeJa (.....), though he said it was impossible to order them. This was before INnoVation won 2016 VSL Team League, NationWars IV, and now this 2017 VSTL. Inno now holds 8 teamleague trophies, the most of any player. Obviously, MMA and TaeJa have done jack shit recently. And with specific regard to Proleague, Inno's 65% winrate is second only to sOs at 66%. Not to mention in 2013 he put STX SouL on his back in 2013 and dragged that team across the finish line. wow, in just one post you've completly annihilated the team liquid writers efforts to constantly diminish innovations results while also showing the blatant hypocrisy. good job man! in other news, congrats to innovation and the people that were fortunate enough to get picked onto his team! | ||
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bduddy
United States1326 Posts
On July 22 2017 01:01 pvsnp wrote: Stuchiu put him in the Top 3, with MMA and TaeJa (.....), though he said it was impossible to order them. This was before INnoVation won 2016 VSL Team League, NationWars IV, and now this 2017 VSTL. Inno now holds 8 teamleague trophies, the most of any player. Obviously, MMA and TaeJa have done jack shit recently. And with specific regard to Proleague, Inno's 65% winrate is second only to sOs at 66%. Not to mention in 2013 he put STX SouL on his back and dragged that team across the finish line. >9-10 in Proleague >Top 3 teamleague player Sure, if you say so. Did anyone tell him Taeja retired a year ago and doesn't need TL going to bat for him anymore? | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On July 22 2017 15:37 bduddy wrote: >9-10 in Proleague >Top 3 teamleague player Sure, if you say so. Did anyone tell him Taeja retired a year ago and doesn't need TL going to bat for him anymore? If you've not watched pre 2014 SC2 you're excused. If you did, you're twisting history. IPL TAC was by far the most impressive single man carrying of a team in a team league in sc2. That alone puts TaeJa top 3. | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
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Mizenhauer
United States1923 Posts
On July 22 2017 11:08 ZertoN wrote: wow, in just one post you've completly annihilated the team liquid writers efforts to constantly diminish innovations results while also showing the blatant hypocrisy. good job man! in other news, congrats to innovation and the people that were fortunate enough to get picked onto his team! In a recent article I implied that INnoVation is the closest thing in SC2 to a bonjwa (the only reason isn't his resume, it's that I don't think it's possible for a bonjwa to exist in SC2). Recently, another writer dubbed Inno the "eternal Terran" for his longevity and excellence over that time period. The fact that you think there is some great TL Writers conspiracy to promote/devalue players is just paranoid. | ||
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
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Mizenhauer
United States1923 Posts
On July 22 2017 20:24 Mun_Su wrote: Mizenhauer may I have the link of your article? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/524577-vsl-s2-grand-finals-preview "INnoVation is not a bonjwa, maybe because the circumstances for one to arise will never be met again. He certainly possess the accolades and talent to be considered dominant." | ||
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RandomPlayer
Russian Federation400 Posts
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On July 22 2017 23:44 RandomPlayer wrote: where am I supposed to get the wiki link?? Can't even see the results http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2017_VSL_Season_2/Team_League | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On July 22 2017 15:59 imre wrote: If you've not watched pre 2014 SC2 you're excused. If you did, you're twisting history. IPL TAC was by far the most impressive single man carrying of a team in a team league in sc2. That alone puts TaeJa top 3. Who cares? it's one tournament. You cannot just look at one tournament and pretend it's worth much more than constant good results in arguably more important teamleagues. This constant Taja circlejerk is absurd, i hate it. IPLTAC was even mostly online, no? It's funny that we usually don't value these formats as much, but ofc when Taeja does somethign there it's different. I think his weekly wins back in the day were also more impressive than winning GSLs. Give me a break. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16063 Posts
On July 22 2017 09:33 Fango wrote: I'm probably adding stuff up wrong, but that liquipedia page on top proleague players doesn't seem up to date? Or just doesn't include the 2016 (lotv) proleague? For example for Stats it says 67-39 aka 63% winrate, but having gone through each year his total is 99-54, giving him 65% winrate For Maru it says is 57-35 and 62%, which was his score from HoTS (2014-15). His total including 2016 is 79-39, which is 67% It gives sOs 92-47 as well, which should be 110-63 aka 64% I believe the statistic for the top overall proleague players doesn't include wins in the allkill format while the statistics for the individual Proleague seasons do. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16063 Posts
On July 22 2017 15:59 imre wrote: If you've not watched pre 2014 SC2 you're excused. If you did, you're twisting history. IPL TAC was by far the most impressive single man carrying of a team in a team league in sc2. That alone puts TaeJa top 3. Maru's 22-4 record in 2016 proleague against mostly top tier opponents who specificially prepared for him is surely more impressive. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On July 23 2017 20:54 Charoisaur wrote: I believe the statistic for the top overall proleague players doesn't include wins in the allkill format while the statistics for the individual Proleague seasons do. I'm not 100% sure on that either. Maru has 26 allkill wins and 79 overall. So it should have him at 53 wins if they aren't include right? It just seems odd that the total it lists is his score from the 2014-15 seasons (57-35). Even so, why is allkill not included? It was a big part of proleague. Removing it completely changes the order of top players | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16063 Posts
On July 23 2017 21:48 Fango wrote: Even so, why is allkill not included? It was a big part of proleague. Removing it completely changes the order of top players I don't know but for the most wins award by Proleague allkill wins aren't included either. | ||
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